1) Underdog Republican challenger Dave Brat wasted no time Tuesday night in stating that his upset primary win over House Majority Leader Eric Cantor was "A miracle from God". This insinuates that God changed the minds of voters who were for Cantor and/or prompted people to vote who were leaning towards Brat but weren't motivated to make the effort to go the polls. So, here we go again with a politician who believes his success is the will of a deity. No matter what policies this guy comes up with if he wins in November and goes to Congress--ideas that I might agree with in some instances--his religious statement will forever force me to regard him with suspicion.
2) We hear time and again from the religious community that god doesn't intervene to prevent evil from occuring because free will for humankind means so much to him. Per Professor Brat's statement above, an apparent exception can be made by God when an evangelical Tea Party candidate needs help at the polls. I note that the very same day this week that Brat won his primary with the help of God, a 14 year-old high-school student was shot and killed in a school shooting in Oregon. I can't understand the mindset of people who would celebrate a deity that would intervene to change the mindset of voters in Virginia, but not a 15 year-old gunman in Oregon.
Okay, got that off my chest.
God fixed a flat on my brother's pick-up 20 years ago. A few years back he told me the story again, but included that his headlights also went out at the same time - and yep, he fixed them too. God only fixed the flat enough to get him home tho, by morning the tire was flat again. His god couldn't even get that right. I asked him how many people had to die because god was busy fixing his flat tyre? and if he thought that was fair? His reply was so lame I don't even remember it. I really don't get prayer, it just don't jive with free will.
As per my signature it's obvious Mr Brat had enough TIME on his hands to think...no, conjure up this miraculous victory and if you watched Jon Stewart the other night it was at least 1000 times bigger than the epic battle between David and Goliath. TRULY A MIRACLE! :biggrin:
I wonder since god deemed it proper to send him to congress will god make him a top fundraiser and give him the speakership?
Quote from: PringleTree on June 12, 2014, 11:58:38 PM
I can't understand the mindset of people who would celebrate a deity that would intervene to change the mindset of voters in Virginia, but not a 15 year-old gunman in Oregon.
"god's ways are not our ways".
Seriously, though, you bring up a good point but one that you can't get through to the religious. They say that every good thing is from god, but all the bad stuff is our fault or maybe satan. It is just a word/definition game with them. All they have to say is that, by definition, god can't do anything bad and then he's magically off the hook.
Hey! Don't be raggin on no motherfucking god!* :eek:
*I have heard those exact words said directly to me in anger.
Another comment I heard which just filled me with the spirit: Yo, motherfucking god loves your motherfucking ass whether you motherfucking like it or not!
Praise be!
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on June 13, 2014, 01:58:07 AM
Yo, motherfucking god loves your motherfucking ass whether you motherfucking like it or not!
Ah! So that is why god's mother raised him to be a sadistic asshole!
It all makes sense now.
Don't you know by now that God wants you to be a pure Republican/conservative? Cantor was 99.996% pure. Not enough. God punished him. He got what he deserves by embracing any form of immigration reform. And let that be a lesson for all of you.
Good thing election ain't today. It's Friday the 13th AND a full moon! That hasn't happened in about 100 yrs and won't happen again till 2049 according to NPR. I wonder what evil is planned for today.
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on June 13, 2014, 12:20:26 PM
...I wonder what evil is planned for today.
Well, I got mustard on my shirt at lunch, could that be it? :shifty:
He teaches at my school, that's gonna be all over the place now
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on June 13, 2014, 12:50:16 PM
He teaches at my school, that's gonna be all over the place now
No doubt about it. That's a mark of the beast. End times are here. Oh Manantha.... .or whatever the fuck Michelle Bachmann rattles on about.. :lol:
Oh wait.. Clicked the wrong quote.. I meant poisons mustard on his shirt.. But Brat teaching at your school is a mark too.. wanna bet he doesn't agree much with Paul Krugman?
Grin...carry a sign around school saying Krugman is Lord just to see what happens (other than getting beat up)
Thinking of Krugman, he wrote an interesting take on the Cantor loss/Brat win. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/06/13/opinion/paul-krugman-eric-cantor-and-the-death-of-a-movement.html.
We've also got an anarchist here, yaaaay
Quote from: PringleTree on June 12, 2014, 11:58:38 PM
1) Underdog Republican challenger Dave Brat wasted no time Tuesday night in stating that his upset primary win over House Majority Leader Eric Cantor was "A miracle from God". This insinuates that God changed the minds of voters who were for Cantor and/or prompted people to vote who were leaning towards Brat but weren't motivated to make the effort to go the polls. So, here we go again with a politician who believes his success is the will of a deity. No matter what policies this guy comes up with if he wins in November and goes to Congress--ideas that I might agree with in some instances--his religious statement will forever force me to regard him with suspicion.
Why would you assume that? Surely the most logical explanation is that God conjured a whole bunch of extra ballots into the ballot boxes, and then marked off their names on the voters list with his magic pen.
If this vote was done electronically it's even easier to explain. God is the ghost in the machine.
Quote2) We hear time and again from the religious community that god doesn't intervene to prevent evil from occuring because free will for humankind means so much to him. Per Professor Brat's statement above, an apparent exception can be made by God when an evangelical Tea Party candidate needs help at the polls. I note that the very same day this week that Brat won his primary with the help of God, a 14 year-old high-school student was shot and killed in a school shooting in Oregon. I can't understand the mindset of people who would celebrate a deity that would intervene to change the mindset of voters in Virginia, but not a 15 year-old gunman in Oregon.
Unfortunately God was too busy rigging elections to stop the murders. He can only be in infinite places at one time. Give the poor guy a break.
One fit of over-excitement 6000 years ago and now he's stuck with about a trillion galaxies more than the original plan called for. That he spares us any time at all with such a workload shows us how much he loves us. A deity must prioritize!
I wonder what would happen on this board if (a) there was a major upset in a Democrat primary and (b) the underdog Democrat thanked God for the victory.
Quote from: Jason_Harvestdancer on June 14, 2014, 11:03:51 AM
I wonder what would happen on this board if (a) there was a major upset in a Democrat primary and (b) the underdog Democrat thanked God for the victory.
I would sigh and say "not this shit again." Although that's more because I hate both parties and only vote Libertarian.
Fuck these libertarian rants.. Fuck, you gotta drag this shit into everything and pretend you're not rubes.
Quote from: Jason_Harvestdancer on June 14, 2014, 11:03:51 AM
I wonder what would happen on this board if (a) there was a major upset in a Democrat primary and (b) the underdog Democrat thanked God for the victory.
Wouldn't matter to me--I would have started this thread just the same no matter what the party affiliation.
Quote from: Jason_Harvestdancer on June 14, 2014, 11:03:51 AM
I wonder what would happen on this board if (a) there was a major upset in a Democrat primary and (b) the underdog Democrat thanked God for the victory.
If that incumbent was a major dickhead like Cantor, and the underdog was from a Democratic faction known to be a bunch of douchebags, I would have much the same reaction: "Meh."
That must be the right question, it got so many people angry.
Quote from: Jason_Harvestdancer on June 15, 2014, 01:13:19 AM
That must be the right question, it got so many people angry.
APA=so many?