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Title: Does good exist?
Post by: Contemporary Protestant on May 28, 2014, 07:56:39 PM
This is part of a series of posts I will be making

Does good exist?

Again any statement backed by evidence will be appreciated
Title: Re: Does good exist?
Post by: Shol'va on May 28, 2014, 08:25:36 PM
This thread is almost indistinguishable from a troll thread.
You start off extremely bad right off the bat.
What do you mean by "god"? Define your term
Why do I have to present evidence if it is you that is putting forth the possible existence of such a thing?
Gonna turn it right around and ask "why should I consider such an existence? Give me good reasons"
Title: Re: Does good exist?
Post by: aileron on May 28, 2014, 08:33:57 PM
Quote from: Shol'va on May 28, 2014, 08:25:36 PM
What do you mean by "god"? Define your term

Read it again.
Title: Re: Does good exist?
Post by: Shol'va on May 28, 2014, 08:35:19 PM
Wow ... Total fail.

That being said though, I think the question still applies. Good in what sense? Universal good? Something transcendental?
Title: Re: Does good exist?
Post by: aitm on May 28, 2014, 08:37:13 PM
Quote from: Contemporary Protestant on May 28, 2014, 07:56:39 PM
This is part of a series of posts I will be making


Not fucking likely.
Title: Re: Does good exist?
Post by: Contemporary Protestant on May 28, 2014, 09:00:16 PM
I want to know your definition of good, sorry, I should have specified
Title: Re: Does good exist?
Post by: PickelledEggs on May 28, 2014, 09:06:01 PM
Good is the opposite of bad. Pretty simple.

This is a really trivial set of threads, just an FYI...

Let me ask you a question of equal relevance. If a bear shits in the woods, and no one is around to step in it, does it make a smell?

Sent via your mom.

Title: Re: Does good exist?
Post by: Contemporary Protestant on May 28, 2014, 09:07:28 PM
Lemme ask Casaprov real quick
Title: Re: Does good exist?
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on May 28, 2014, 09:09:48 PM
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q490/atheola/IMG_20140526_070729.jpg)
GOOD little bird
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q490/atheola/arms4.jpeg)
BAD little bird

Any questions?
Title: Re: Does good exist?
Post by: PickelledEggs on May 28, 2014, 09:18:55 PM
I'll give you my definition of good, but it's going to be REAALLY long. If you wants it, you gets it.

You really need to define on what you mean by "does good exist" if you are going to get a real answer. The question is to general and ambiguous. Either way, I might as well humor you with how I view "good"

Good is realtive to bad. Obviously you can't have good without bad contrasting it.

"good" is only a judgement based on the person making the call of what is good or bad.

So what are you exactly asking?

Is good a physical thing and does that exsist?
Is good an energy particle and does that exsist?
I don't do general, ambiguous questions.

I have liked you on here for a long time, CP, but these threads are pretty annoying.
Title: Re: Does good exist?
Post by: Contemporary Protestant on May 28, 2014, 09:23:23 PM
Sorry, I enjoy this kind of talk, and the reason I want to know the views on whether good or evil exist because I want to know (according to y'all) which is greater, and are both infinite?

Tbh, this is the stuff I would like to talk with y'all because I have unlimited access to a theist stance on these issues but no an atheist's views on such

Simply, are the beliefs of good and evil linked to religion? If not, do such things exist
Title: Re: Does good exist?
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on May 28, 2014, 09:26:58 PM
QuoteI have liked you on here for a long time, CP, but these threads are pretty annoying

Which is why I don't take much of it seriously hence good little bird/bad little bird.
Title: Re: Does good exist?
Post by: PickelledEggs on May 28, 2014, 09:45:55 PM
Quote from: Contemporary Protestant on May 28, 2014, 09:23:23 PM
Simply, are the beliefs of good and evil linked to religion? If not, do such things exist
That is a better question.

My answer to it would be: I don't know.

I do know that automatically saying "If it's not good, it's evil. or If it's not evil, it's good" isn't the best idea. It tends to make people jump to a simple conclusion when a lot of times there isn't one.

There is cause and effect. sometimes the cause makes an effect that benifits more things than it disadvantages things. When that happens, we call it "good" when the opposite happens, we call it "bad". Like I said, good and bad / righteous and evil are judgments based on a person's perspective.

Judgement pre-existed religion because someone had to come up with the judgment to say what is good or bad before they incorporated it in to their religion.
Title: Re: Does good exist?
Post by: Naru on May 28, 2014, 09:50:48 PM
Good and bad are base on other's opinion.
Title: Re: Does good exist?
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on May 28, 2014, 09:59:31 PM
Ummm drugs are bad. Ok?

However eating Tang right out of the jar with a spoon is good! :snooty:

See how bad n good compliment each other?
Title: Re: Does good exist?
Post by: no-excuses on May 28, 2014, 10:29:03 PM
good or bad, could be an Idea, event , person, or pretty much any other thing in existence can be described as good or bad.
a good THING is that thing that, first, doesn't do harm to other's well-being but in contrary it benefit other's well-being. that is good. In case of a person benefit to one's self is also Good.
Bad is harm and suffering to other's well-being.
Others could be people, animals and any living being that can feel pain or experience suffering.
Title: Re: Does good exist?
Post by: no-excuses on May 28, 2014, 10:33:50 PM
I don't have any evidences to back up what i just said...but it is true I swear to god