http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/15/world/africa/sudan-christian-woman-apostasy/index.html?sr=fb051614faithsentence1030aVODtopPhoto#cnn-disqus-area
QuoteDuring Thursday's sentencing hearing, a sheikh told the court "how dangerous a crime like this is to Islam and the Islamic community," said attorney Mohamed Jar Elnabi, who's representing Ibrahim.
"I am a Christian," Ibrahim fired back, "and I will remain a Christian."
This what makes religion so bad.
Ignorance and insanity with both religions, and yet there are people here that want a Christian theocracy, like a Mormon theocracy the Mormons want. Why do people want their lives controlled by religious authority is beyond me. Solitary
If angry Muslim men ask you if you are Muslim it is best to tell them yes. The woman's husband is an American citizen so they do have a place to flee to. It makes me ill to think that this woman would let these people kill her over this.
Best advertising that Christians can get. Why would they be upset? Why won't more Christians go there to accept their punishment as well?
I'm just wondering how being a Christian is in any way dangerous to Islam. It doesn't prevent muslims from practicing their religion or anything like that (it would have been nice if they had returned the favor). It only affects Islam in the sense that these religions compete for market share among a finite population of humans - an ideological zero-sum game. And barbarism like this only hurts a religion's relative standing in the long run.
Probably a puff piece put out by the "Family Research Counsel".. P E R S E C U T I O N !
Quote from: Hydra009 on May 18, 2014, 01:09:35 AM
I'm just wondering how being a Christian is in any way dangerous to Islam. It doesn't prevent muslims from practicing their religion or anything like that (it would have been nice if they had returned the favor). It only affects Islam in the sense that these religions compete for market share among a finite population of humans - an ideological zero-sum game. And barbarism like this only hurts a religion's relative standing in the long run.
She's on trial for being an apostate.
Her father was Muslim. According to Sudanese law this makes her a Muslim at birth, she doesn't even have to say that "Allah blah blah blah, watch me stroke Muhammad's ego" thing people usually say when they incur massive brain damage and convert to Islam. Now it doesn't matter that she wasn't raised as a Muslim or anything, because of something she had no control over she's an apostate by law. We all know the punishment for leaving Muhammad The Pig Fucker's cult by now.
Here's a little life hint for the idiots out there: if you have to kill people for leaving your religion in order to keep other people from leaving, you have a really shitty religion.
I'm curious why her 20 month old son is in jail with her.
Muslims and their precarious faith.
Religious ignorance supported by the state. It's hideous and barbaric. People want the bronze age mythology. They even live in an ignorant barbaric culture like the ancients who invented their religion.
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on May 18, 2014, 01:05:30 AM
Best advertising that Christians can get. Why would they be upset? Why won't more Christians go there to accept their punishment as well?
its just an eternal reminded that all religions are pieces of shit, and only the dumb and lost drones of the world follow it without morally questioning anything.
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on May 18, 2014, 01:41:35 AMShe's on trial for being an apostate.
Her father was Muslim. According to Sudanese law this makes her a Muslim at birth, she doesn't even have to say that "Allah blah blah blah, watch me stroke Muhammad's ego" thing people usually say when they incur massive brain damage and convert to Islam. Now it doesn't matter that she wasn't raised as a Muslim or anything, because of something she had no control over she's an apostate by law.
That makes no sense, either. No one is automatically an adherent of any particular religion. Don't they listen to Richard Dawkins over there?
Tell me again how organized religion is good thing and does no harm to anyone. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Johan on May 18, 2014, 11:29:12 AM
Tell me again how organized religion is good thing and does no harm to anyone. :rolleyes:
I've had that debate more times than I can count. Apparently, feelings of comfort and purpose trump honesty and wellbeing. And golly gee willikers you'd have to be some sort of vile antireligious nutjob to think that society should move away from offering prayers to some invisible guy or another. Plus, did you know that good people can be religious? Cause I sure didn't.
Uhh..only GOOD people can be religious. Didn't you get the memo? :pray:
Eh, at least she's allowed to give birth before she's hanged. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/sudan/10837365/Islamic-court-permits-pregnant-woman-to-give-birth-before-she-is-hanged.html) How nice of them... :rolleyes:
Quote from: Hydra009 on May 18, 2014, 10:34:24 AM
That makes no sense, either. No one is automatically an adherent of any particular religion. Don't they listen to Richard Dawkins over there?
Islamic logic FTW.
Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on May 18, 2014, 03:14:07 PM
Uhh..only GOOD people can be religious. Didn't you get the memo? :pray:
Of course. God touched Charles Manson after all.
Christian in hostile Muslim country loudly proclaims her religion. Gets killed. Surprise? No. Stupid? Yes. Next.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on May 20, 2014, 12:32:38 PM
Naah, don't be cruel Jmpty. If she was one of the millions dead from the last side of the Abrahamic religions, she would be an unknown collateral and we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Sharia countries need to get that the score is how big of a mass you can annihilate in a certain window and act like you didn't. Not, how do you kill just one. I mean...underdeveloped countries, will they ever get civilised?
I see what you did there.
Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on May 18, 2014, 01:41:35 AM
She's on trial for being an apostate.
Her father was Muslim. According to Sudanese law this makes her a Muslim at birth, she doesn't even have to say that "Allah blah blah blah, watch me stroke Muhammad's ego" thing people usually say when they incur massive brain damage and convert to Islam. Now it doesn't matter that she wasn't raised as a Muslim or anything, because of something she had no control over she's an apostate by law. We all know the punishment for leaving Muhammad The Pig Fucker's cult by now.
Here's a little life hint for the idiots out there: if you have to kill people for leaving your religion in order to keep other people from leaving, you have a really shitty religion.
Islam is a political ideology and death for apostasy shows it is first and foremost a political ideology.
Kishori Saran Lal was the first to do statistics on Islamic texts, he puts it at 62% Political ideology 38% Religion.