Muslims world-wide have in recent days been celebrating the birth of the Prophet Muhammed pbuh. With any great personality, people often come together to give tributes when they die, such as Nelson Mandela, and to remember their great legacy. No-one can doubt, whether you believe it is positive or negative, the multitude effect of the prophet Muhammed pbuh.
To make this relevant to one who does not adhere to Islam, here are statements about what non-muslims have said about Muhammed pbuh, make of them what you will/discuss them:
Michael H. Hart (1932- ) Professor of astronomy, physics and the history of science.
"My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level." [The 100: A Ranking Of The Most Influential Persons In History, New York, 1978, p. 33]
David George Hogarth (1862-1927) English archaeologist, author, and keeper of the Ashmolean Museum, Oxford.
"Serious or trivial, his daily behaviour has instituted a canon which millions observe this day with conscious mimicry.? No one regarded by any section of the human race as Perfect Man has been imitated so minutely. The conduct of the Founder of Christianity has not so governed the ordinary life of His followers. Moreover, no Founder of a religion has been left on so solitary an eminence as the Muslim Apostle.? [Arabia, Oxford, 1922, p. 52]"
Reverend Bosworth Smith (1794-1884) Late Fellow of Trinity College, Oxford.
"? he was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without the Pope's pretensions, and Caesar without the legions of Caesar.? Without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue, if ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by a right Divine, it was Mohammed; for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports." Mohammed and Mohammedanism, London, 1874, p. 235]
They should have talked to a geneticist, Genghis Khan is by far the most influential person in history.
"Serious or trivial, his daily behaviour has instituted a canon which millions observe this day with conscious mimicry."
Yes, pedophilia is still a problem we are still trying to stamp out.
Walt Disney was more influential. :roll: Very few adults alive today are unfamiliar with Mickey Mouse.
He is in running for world's most extreme midlife crisis, I'll give him that.
He was one of the world's most influential people, I won't argue with that. But in terms of being a good influence, that would be a stretch to argue.
His followers have done some great things, but many of those have no Qu ranic basis that I can see.
Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"Walt Disney was more influential. :roll: Very few adults alive today are unfamiliar with Mickey Mouse.
What about Ronald McDonald?
Muhammad was influential in the same way that Hitler was influential.
In that his contribution to the world was not a positive one.
Quote from: "Shiranu"He was one of the world's most influential people, I won't argue with that. But in terms of being a good influence, that would be a stretch to argue.
His followers have done some great things[/i], but many of those have no Qu ranic basis that I can see.
Quote from: "Jason78"Muhammad was influential in the same way that Hitler was influential.
In that his contribution to the world was not a positive one.[/i]
Either was Ronald McDonald's.
Obviously Adam was the most influential person in history. If he had decided to not bang Eve, Muhammad would've never even existed. All hail father Adam!
Quote from: "Rex Rgis Verum"Obviously Adam was the most influential person in history. If he had decided to not bang Eve, Muhammad would've never even existed. All hail father Adam!
You must be referring to the BIG bang...
This is hilarious . The Muslim dude posting this stuff in a atheist website. :roll: We don't care about this Muhammed dude.
Quote from: "Jason78"Muhammad was influential in the same way that Hitler was influential.
In that his contribution to the world was not a positive one.
Yep. This ^^^
So this guy argues with people on this website for a long time, then disappears for a long time, then comes back not having changed one iota and still pushing his religion..... cool. 8-)
Quote from: "frosty"So this guy argues with people on this website for a long time, then disappears for a long time, then comes back not having changed one iota and still pushing his religion..... cool. 8-)
Yup . Pretty much this.
Quote from: "barbarian"Quote from: "Rex Rgis Verum"Obviously Adam was the most influential person in history. If he had decided to not bang Eve, Muhammad would've never even existed. All hail father Adam!
You must be referring to the BIG bang...
8-)
You think those are stars in the sky? Nah, they're Adam's sperm that have yet to die.
Quote from: "frosty"So this guy argues with people on this website for a long time, then disappears for a long time, then comes back not having changed one iota and still pushing his religion..... cool. 8-)
Mendy is our one-post wonder.
(Reads OP)
And I should care... why?
Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"Walt Disney was more influential. :roll: Very few adults alive today are unfamiliar with Mickey Mouse.
Ah yes, you must mean Satan's little soldier. Fear not, some wingnut issued a fatwa on the little fucker:
http://www.newsarama.com/1071-saudi-cle ... mouse.html (http://www.newsarama.com/1071-saudi-cleric-places-fatwa-on-mickey-mouse.html)
QuoteSaudi Cleric Places Fatwa on Mickey Mouse
In a story that's so weird his has to be considered true, a leading Saudi Arabian cleric has declared Mickey Mouse to be an "agent of Satan." As such, he has put a fatwa, or death sentence , on the Mouse's head.
According to the London Telegraph Sheik Muhammad Munajid claimed the mouse is "one of Satan's soldiers" and makes everything it touches impure. He warned that depictions of the creature in cartoons such as Tom and Jerry, and Disney's Mickey Mouse, had taught children that it was in fact loveable. The cleric, a former diplomat at the Saudi embassy in Washington DC, said that under Sharia (Islamic law), both household mice and their cartoon counterparts must be killed.
I'm not sure how one would go about killing a cartoon character, but Muslim clerics have never been ones to let reality get in the way of a fatwa. :lol:
Quote from: "Jason78"Muhammad was influential in the same way that Hitler was influential.
In that his contribution to the world was not a positive one.
He managed to unite the local tribes with his new brand of monotheistic woo, but then he got too big for his boots and the whole shebang polarised into them versus us, and he became the warlord of his new-found subjects and loved his raids, especially with his percentage of the booty and first pick of the poon tang. All too familiar... and people have been trying to make a 7th century code of conduct fit their world ever since. No bloody wonder that many Islamic countries are still stuck in the dark ages... :roll: