This thread is about admirable people and what they have done for others and/or for the world. DON'T be a wet blanket and just start criticizing people for their short-comings. DO talk about the good things people have done.
Name your heroes, AF denizens, and let us become inspired!
Irena Sendler(//http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t651/smartzie/irenasendler_zps91fc1ac5.jpg) (//http://s1318.photobucket.com/user/smartzie/media/irenasendler_zps91fc1ac5.jpg.html)
Quote...was a Polish Roman Catholic nurse/social worker who served in the Polish Underground during World War II, and as head of children's section of ?egota, an underground resistance organization in German-occupied Warsaw. Assisted by some two dozen other ?egota members, Sendler smuggled some 2,500 Jewish children out of the Warsaw Ghetto and then provided them with false identity documents and with housing outside the Ghetto, saving those children during the Holocaust.The Nazis eventually discovered her activities, tortured her, and sentenced her to death, but she managed to evade execution and survive the war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irena_Sendler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irena_Sendler)
QuoteShe and her friends smuggled the children out in boxes, suitcases, sacks and coffins, sedating babies to quiet their cries. Some were spirited away through a network of basements and secret passages. Operations were timed to the second. One of Sendler's children told of waiting by a gate in darkness as a German soldier patrolled nearby. When the soldier passed, the boy counted to 30, then made a mad dash to the middle of the street, where a manhole cover opened and he was taken down into the sewers and eventually to safety.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/send ... 5ml08kG.99 (http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/sendler.asp#MEIhIuluV5ml08kG.99)
Audrey Hepburn(//http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t651/smartzie/audreyhepburn_zps088bb0eb.jpg) (//http://s1318.photobucket.com/user/smartzie/media/audreyhepburn_zps088bb0eb.jpg.html)
QuoteHepburn was appointed Goodwill Ambassador of UNICEF. Then-United States president George H. W. Bush presented her with the Presidential Medal of Freedom in recognition of her work with UNICEF, and the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences posthumously awarded her the Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award for her contribution to humanity, with her son accepting on her behalf. Grateful for her own good fortune after enduring the German occupation as a child, she dedicated the remainder of her life to helping impoverished children in the poorest nations. Hepburn's travels were made easier by her wide knowledge of languages; besides being naturally bilingual in English and Dutch, she also was fluent in French, Italian, Spanish, and German. Though she had done work for UNICEF in the 1950s, starting in 1954 with radio presentations, this was a much higher level of dedication. Those close to her whom say that the thoughts of dying, helpless children consumed her for the rest of her life.
QuoteIn October 1990, Hepburn went to Vietnam in an effort to collaborate with the government for national UNICEF-supported immunisation and clean water programmes. In September 1992, four months before she died, Hepburn went to Somalia. Calling it "apocalyptic", she said, "I walked into a nightmare. I have seen famine in Ethiopia and Bangladesh, but I have seen nothing like this – so much worse than I could possibly have imagined. I wasn't prepared for this." "The earth is red – an extraordinary sight – that deep terracotta red. And you see the villages, displacement camps and compounds, and the earth is all rippled around these places like an ocean bed and I was told these were the graves. There are graves everywhere. Along the road, wherever there is a road, around the paths that you take, along the riverbeds, near every camp – there are graves everywhere.
Though scarred by what she had seen, Hepburn still had hope. "Taking care of children has nothing to do with politics. I think perhaps with time, instead of there being a politicisation of humanitarian aid, there will be a humanisation of politics."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audrey_Hep ... ian_career (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audrey_Hepburn#Humanitarian_career)
Carlos Arredondo (in the cowboy hat)
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QuoteAlexander Brian Arredondo (born Carlos Luis de Los Ángeles Arredondo Piedra August 25, 1960) is a Costa Rican-American peace activist and an American Red Cross volunteer. He became an anti war activist after his 20-year-old eldest son Lance Corporal Alexander Arredondo died in action during Iraq War in 2004.
QuoteArredondo and his wife Mélida became activists for peace and have had speaking engagements around the country speaking about his personal tragedy and to parents about the methods recruiters use to enlist youth.[citation needed] He especially works to reach out to the Spanish-speaking community.
The Arredondos requested during Mitt Romney's governorship to have flags placed at half-staff upon the death of a Massachusetts native related to his or her war injuries in 2005, a wish that Alex had when he noticed after his first deployment how the public was not noticing the war deaths. They have also lobbied for families' decisions to allow press to cover the arrival of their troops' remains from the combat zone, a statute from George Bush, Sr.'s administration.
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During a daytime peaceful anti-war protest on September 15, 2007, Arredondo was physically assaulted by a mob of counter protesters. The assailants followed Arredondo as he pulled his son's memorial, purposely yelling epiphets and eventually seizing a photo of Alex from the casket. An attempt to retrieve his dead son's photo provoked the men to kick Arredondo in the head, legs, stomach and back. Police defused the situation before major damage could be inflicted.
QuoteOn December 19, 2011, Arredondo's surviving son, Brian, committed suicide, after battling depression and drug addiction ever since his brother's death. He was 24 years old at the time. Since Brian's death, the Arredondos have dedicated themselves to attending suicide groups sessions and conferences, especially related to military-related suicides. Both have worked with elected officials in the City of Boston and Commonwealth of Massachusetts to change systems regarding suicide policy.
QuoteOn April 15, 2013 Arredondo attended the 2013 Boston Marathon. At around 2:50 p.m. EDT (18:50 UTC), two bombs were detonated during the race in Copley Square, just before the finish line. Arredondo immediately sprinted into action and he can be seen in a series of photos and videos of the aftermath pulling debris and fencing away from the bloody victims, clearing the way for emergency personnel to tend to their wounds. He saw Jeff Bauman, missing both of his legs and losing blood rapidly, he knew Jeff needed help the most. Arredondo lifted Bauman and put him into a wheelchair, and when the fabric used as a tourniquet kept getting caught in its wheels he held it (this was initially mistaken for Arredondo pinching Bauman's femoral artery shut).
In a now iconic photograph Carlos Arredondo with his cowboy hat is helping rush Jeff Bauman, to an ambulance. He remains in touch with the victims of the bombings, including Jeff Bauman. Arredondo was a spectator of the race, there to support and he cheer on members of the National Guard and a suicide prevention group that were running in honor of his two deceased sons.
I'm parent to my first child who is little over a year. Seeing those pics of the Warsaw kids tears me up inside and seriously makes me want to cry.
Quote from: "Smartmarzipan"This thread is about admirable people and what they have done for others and/or for the world. DON'T be a wet blanket and just start criticizing people for their short-comings. DO talk about the good things people have done.
Name your heroes, AF denizens, and let us become inspired!
Irena Sendler
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Quote...was a Polish Roman Catholic nurse/social worker who served in the Polish Underground during World War II, and as head of children's section of ?egota, an underground resistance organization in German-occupied Warsaw. Assisted by some two dozen other ?egota members, Sendler smuggled some 2,500 Jewish children out of the Warsaw Ghetto and then provided them with false identity documents and with housing outside the Ghetto, saving those children during the Holocaust.The Nazis eventually discovered her activities, tortured her, and sentenced her to death, but she managed to evade execution and survive the war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irena_Sendler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irena_Sendler)
QuoteShe and her friends smuggled the children out in boxes, suitcases, sacks and coffins, sedating babies to quiet their cries. Some were spirited away through a network of basements and secret passages. Operations were timed to the second. One of Sendler's children told of waiting by a gate in darkness as a German soldier patrolled nearby. When the soldier passed, the boy counted to 30, then made a mad dash to the middle of the street, where a manhole cover opened and he was taken down into the sewers and eventually to safety.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/send ... 5ml08kG.99 (http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/sendler.asp#MEIhIuluV5ml08kG.99)
Audrey Hepburn
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QuoteHepburn was appointed Goodwill Ambassador of UNICEF. Then-United States president George H. W. Bush presented her with the Presidential Medal of Freedom in recognition of her work with UNICEF, and the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences posthumously awarded her the Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award for her contribution to humanity, with her son accepting on her behalf. Grateful for her own good fortune after enduring the German occupation as a child, she dedicated the remainder of her life to helping impoverished children in the poorest nations. Hepburn's travels were made easier by her wide knowledge of languages; besides being naturally bilingual in English and Dutch, she also was fluent in French, Italian, Spanish, and German. Though she had done work for UNICEF in the 1950s, starting in 1954 with radio presentations, this was a much higher level of dedication. Those close to her whom say that the thoughts of dying, helpless children consumed her for the rest of her life.
QuoteIn October 1990, Hepburn went to Vietnam in an effort to collaborate with the government for national UNICEF-supported immunisation and clean water programmes. In September 1992, four months before she died, Hepburn went to Somalia. Calling it "apocalyptic", she said, "I walked into a nightmare. I have seen famine in Ethiopia and Bangladesh, but I have seen nothing like this – so much worse than I could possibly have imagined. I wasn't prepared for this." "The earth is red – an extraordinary sight – that deep terracotta red. And you see the villages, displacement camps and compounds, and the earth is all rippled around these places like an ocean bed and I was told these were the graves. There are graves everywhere. Along the road, wherever there is a road, around the paths that you take, along the riverbeds, near every camp – there are graves everywhere.
Though scarred by what she had seen, Hepburn still had hope. "Taking care of children has nothing to do with politics. I think perhaps with time, instead of there being a politicisation of humanitarian aid, there will be a humanisation of politics."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audrey_Hep ... ian_career (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audrey_Hepburn#Humanitarian_career)
Carlos Arredondo (in the cowboy hat)
[ Image (//http://s1318.photobucket.com/user/smartzie/media/carlosarredondo_zpsf6aa4a4f.jpg.html) ]
QuoteAlexander Brian Arredondo (born Carlos Luis de Los Ángeles Arredondo Piedra August 25, 1960) is a Costa Rican-American peace activist and an American Red Cross volunteer. He became an anti war activist after his 20-year-old eldest son Lance Corporal Alexander Arredondo died in action during Iraq War in 2004.
QuoteArredondo and his wife Mélida became activists for peace and have had speaking engagements around the country speaking about his personal tragedy and to parents about the methods recruiters use to enlist youth.[citation needed] He especially works to reach out to the Spanish-speaking community.
The Arredondos requested during Mitt Romney's governorship to have flags placed at half-staff upon the death of a Massachusetts native related to his or her war injuries in 2005, a wish that Alex had when he noticed after his first deployment how the public was not noticing the war deaths. They have also lobbied for families' decisions to allow press to cover the arrival of their troops' remains from the combat zone, a statute from George Bush, Sr.'s administration.
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During a daytime peaceful anti-war protest on September 15, 2007, Arredondo was physically assaulted by a mob of counter protesters. The assailants followed Arredondo as he pulled his son's memorial, purposely yelling epiphets and eventually seizing a photo of Alex from the casket. An attempt to retrieve his dead son's photo provoked the men to kick Arredondo in the head, legs, stomach and back. Police defused the situation before major damage could be inflicted.
QuoteOn December 19, 2011, Arredondo's surviving son, Brian, committed suicide, after battling depression and drug addiction ever since his brother's death. He was 24 years old at the time. Since Brian's death, the Arredondos have dedicated themselves to attending suicide groups sessions and conferences, especially related to military-related suicides. Both have worked with elected officials in the City of Boston and Commonwealth of Massachusetts to change systems regarding suicide policy.
QuoteOn April 15, 2013 Arredondo attended the 2013 Boston Marathon. At around 2:50 p.m. EDT (18:50 UTC), two bombs were detonated during the race in Copley Square, just before the finish line. Arredondo immediately sprinted into action and he can be seen in a series of photos and videos of the aftermath pulling debris and fencing away from the bloody victims, clearing the way for emergency personnel to tend to their wounds. He saw Jeff Bauman, missing both of his legs and losing blood rapidly, he knew Jeff needed help the most. Arredondo lifted Bauman and put him into a wheelchair, and when the fabric used as a tourniquet kept getting caught in its wheels he held it (this was initially mistaken for Arredondo pinching Bauman's femoral artery shut).
In a now iconic photograph Carlos Arredondo with his cowboy hat is helping rush Jeff Bauman, to an ambulance. He remains in touch with the victims of the bombings, including Jeff Bauman. Arredondo was a spectator of the race, there to support and he cheer on members of the National Guard and a suicide prevention group that were running in honor of his two deceased sons.
I could only add to your list but your list is good enough so I won't.
Winston Churchill inspired a defeated nation to stand fast against a brutal ideology of extermination, and that stand allowed the two largest powers to combine their resources and crush Naziism. Churchill's task was long, arduous, and not appreciated until long after he was thrown out of office immediately after the NaZi surrender. He gave voice to the stout determination of his nation to not succumb to tyranny, and if you take the time to read his words today, they still resonate, because he was a man who spoke the truth.
Quote from: "mykcob4"Quote from: "Smartmarzipan"This thread is about admirable people and what they have done for others and/or for the world. DON'T be a wet blanket and just start criticizing people for their short-comings. DO talk about the good things people have done.
Name your heroes, AF denizens, and let us become inspired!
Irena Sendler
[ Image (//http://s1318.photobucket.com/user/smartzie/media/irenasendler_zps91fc1ac5.jpg.html) ]
Quote...was a Polish Roman Catholic nurse/social worker who served in the Polish Underground during World War II, and as head of children's section of ?egota, an underground resistance organization in German-occupied Warsaw. Assisted by some two dozen other ?egota members, Sendler smuggled some 2,500 Jewish children out of the Warsaw Ghetto and then provided them with false identity documents and with housing outside the Ghetto, saving those children during the Holocaust.The Nazis eventually discovered her activities, tortured her, and sentenced her to death, but she managed to evade execution and survive the war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irena_Sendler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irena_Sendler)
QuoteShe and her friends smuggled the children out in boxes, suitcases, sacks and coffins, sedating babies to quiet their cries. Some were spirited away through a network of basements and secret passages. Operations were timed to the second. One of Sendler's children told of waiting by a gate in darkness as a German soldier patrolled nearby. When the soldier passed, the boy counted to 30, then made a mad dash to the middle of the street, where a manhole cover opened and he was taken down into the sewers and eventually to safety.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/send ... 5ml08kG.99 (http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/sendler.asp#MEIhIuluV5ml08kG.99)
Audrey Hepburn
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QuoteHepburn was appointed Goodwill Ambassador of UNICEF. Then-United States president George H. W. Bush presented her with the Presidential Medal of Freedom in recognition of her work with UNICEF, and the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences posthumously awarded her the Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award for her contribution to humanity, with her son accepting on her behalf. Grateful for her own good fortune after enduring the German occupation as a child, she dedicated the remainder of her life to helping impoverished children in the poorest nations. Hepburn's travels were made easier by her wide knowledge of languages; besides being naturally bilingual in English and Dutch, she also was fluent in French, Italian, Spanish, and German. Though she had done work for UNICEF in the 1950s, starting in 1954 with radio presentations, this was a much higher level of dedication. Those close to her whom say that the thoughts of dying, helpless children consumed her for the rest of her life.
QuoteIn October 1990, Hepburn went to Vietnam in an effort to collaborate with the government for national UNICEF-supported immunisation and clean water programmes. In September 1992, four months before she died, Hepburn went to Somalia. Calling it "apocalyptic", she said, "I walked into a nightmare. I have seen famine in Ethiopia and Bangladesh, but I have seen nothing like this – so much worse than I could possibly have imagined. I wasn't prepared for this." "The earth is red – an extraordinary sight – that deep terracotta red. And you see the villages, displacement camps and compounds, and the earth is all rippled around these places like an ocean bed and I was told these were the graves. There are graves everywhere. Along the road, wherever there is a road, around the paths that you take, along the riverbeds, near every camp – there are graves everywhere.
Though scarred by what she had seen, Hepburn still had hope. "Taking care of children has nothing to do with politics. I think perhaps with time, instead of there being a politicisation of humanitarian aid, there will be a humanisation of politics."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audrey_Hep ... ian_career (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audrey_Hepburn#Humanitarian_career)
Carlos Arredondo (in the cowboy hat)
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QuoteAlexander Brian Arredondo (born Carlos Luis de Los Ángeles Arredondo Piedra August 25, 1960) is a Costa Rican-American peace activist and an American Red Cross volunteer. He became an anti war activist after his 20-year-old eldest son Lance Corporal Alexander Arredondo died in action during Iraq War in 2004.
QuoteArredondo and his wife Mélida became activists for peace and have had speaking engagements around the country speaking about his personal tragedy and to parents about the methods recruiters use to enlist youth.[citation needed] He especially works to reach out to the Spanish-speaking community.
The Arredondos requested during Mitt Romney's governorship to have flags placed at half-staff upon the death of a Massachusetts native related to his or her war injuries in 2005, a wish that Alex had when he noticed after his first deployment how the public was not noticing the war deaths. They have also lobbied for families' decisions to allow press to cover the arrival of their troops' remains from the combat zone, a statute from George Bush, Sr.'s administration.
.............
During a daytime peaceful anti-war protest on September 15, 2007, Arredondo was physically assaulted by a mob of counter protesters. The assailants followed Arredondo as he pulled his son's memorial, purposely yelling epiphets and eventually seizing a photo of Alex from the casket. An attempt to retrieve his dead son's photo provoked the men to kick Arredondo in the head, legs, stomach and back. Police defused the situation before major damage could be inflicted.
QuoteOn December 19, 2011, Arredondo's surviving son, Brian, committed suicide, after battling depression and drug addiction ever since his brother's death. He was 24 years old at the time. Since Brian's death, the Arredondos have dedicated themselves to attending suicide groups sessions and conferences, especially related to military-related suicides. Both have worked with elected officials in the City of Boston and Commonwealth of Massachusetts to change systems regarding suicide policy.
QuoteOn April 15, 2013 Arredondo attended the 2013 Boston Marathon. At around 2:50 p.m. EDT (18:50 UTC), two bombs were detonated during the race in Copley Square, just before the finish line. Arredondo immediately sprinted into action and he can be seen in a series of photos and videos of the aftermath pulling debris and fencing away from the bloody victims, clearing the way for emergency personnel to tend to their wounds. He saw Jeff Bauman, missing both of his legs and losing blood rapidly, he knew Jeff needed help the most. Arredondo lifted Bauman and put him into a wheelchair, and when the fabric used as a tourniquet kept getting caught in its wheels he held it (this was initially mistaken for Arredondo pinching Bauman's femoral artery shut).
In a now iconic photograph Carlos Arredondo with his cowboy hat is helping rush Jeff Bauman, to an ambulance. He remains in touch with the victims of the bombings, including Jeff Bauman. Arredondo was a spectator of the race, there to support and he cheer on members of the National Guard and a suicide prevention group that were running in honor of his two deceased sons.
I could only add to your list but your list is good enough so I won't.
NO! Keep adding! There are so many good people out there! ADD MORE!
Bill Gates
Warren Buffet
Sam Harris
Norman Borlaug
Carl Sagan
Albert Einstein
Niels Bohr
Plato
Isis
Aristotle
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A few.
My parents. They weren't perfect, but raised 5 of us, shaped the men and women we are and I can't think of anyone I admire more.
That is all.
The obvious Nelson Mandella.
Martin Luther King Jr.
Barack Obama & Michelle Obama
David Attenborrough
Alan Arkin
Alan Alda
Marlo Thomas
Princess Diana
Ted Kennedy
Hillary Clinton
Ceasar Chavez
Albert Schweitzer
Siddhartha Gautama
James Madison & John Jay
John Locke & Thomas Paine
To name a few.
Quote from: "mykcob4"The obvious Nelson Mandella.
Martin Luther King Jr.
Barack Obama & Michelle Obama
David Attenborrough
Alan Arkin
Alan Alda
Marlo Thomas
Princess Diana
Ted Kennedy
Hillary Clinton
Ceasar Chavez
Albert Schweitzer
Siddhartha Gautama
James Madison & John Jay
John Locke & Thomas Paine
To name a few.
I agree with your list.
I want to name some, but my brain is just saying, "No, there will be no Admirable People today!"...
I'll post them as I think of them, right now though these are the only ones really coming to mind. Doing these as pictures w/ quotes, if it is too obnoxious looking just tell me :P.
Malala Yousafzai, the Pakistani girl who was shot and now has become a huge spokes woman for education for everyone around the world.
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Charlie Chaplin
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Bruce Lee
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Laozi
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QuoteThirty spokes share the wheel's hub;
It is the center hole that makes it useful.
Shape clay into a vessel;
It is the space within that makes it useful.
Cut doors and windows for a room;
It is the holes which make it useful.
Therefore profit comes from what is there;
Usefulness from what is not there.
FDR
John Lennon
Cheif Joseph
Temple Grandin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin)
Diagnosed with autism at age 2, has multiple degrees, is a humanitarian and spokesperson for the autistic, invented animal feeding systems and numerous other stuff. One awesome woman.
Quote from: "stromboli"Temple Grandin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin)
Diagnosed with autism at age 2, has multiple degrees, is a humanitarian and spokesperson for the autistic, invented animal feeding systems and numerous other stuff. One awesome woman.
Ah you watched the program that aired about her tonight. Was it on a show called 'The Incredible Brain'?
Quote from: "mykcob4"John Lennon
I used to feel that way too. This list (//http://listverse.com/2012/05/12/top-10-unpleasant-facts-about-john-lennon/) is a pretty good representation of why I changed my mind. That's not to say I agree with all of it (like the 'talentless' part), but overall, John Lennon was a pretty awful person.
ETA that I very much admire Alan Turing, so as not to be a total wet blanket.
Quote from: "mykcob4"Quote from: "stromboli"Temple Grandin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Grandin)
Diagnosed with autism at age 2, has multiple degrees, is a humanitarian and spokesperson for the autistic, invented animal feeding systems and numerous other stuff. One awesome woman.
Ah you watched the program that aired about her tonight. Was it on a show called 'The Incredible Brain'?
No, I read about her many moons ago, Kemosabe.
Quote from: "missingnocchi"Quote from: "mykcob4"John Lennon
I used to feel that way too. This list (//http://listverse.com/2012/05/12/top-10-unpleasant-facts-about-john-lennon/) is a pretty good representation of why I changed my mind. That's not to say I agree with all of it (like the 'talentless' part), but overall, John Lennon was a pretty awful person.
ETA that I very much admire Alan Turing, so as not to be a total wet blanket.
I don't know where you get that Lennon was an awful person. He had his problems but all and all he was very humanitarian when it was actually dangerous to be so. All the rockers now days that have decided to take up a cause follow in Lennon's footsteps. He was one of the first to actually put his money where his mouth was.
Maximilian Kolbe
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QuoteSaint Maximilian Maria Kolbe, was a Polish Conventual Franciscan friar, who volunteered to die in place of a stranger in the Nazi German death camp of Auschwitz, located in German-occupied Poland during World War II.
QuoteAfter the outbreak of World War II, which started with the invasion of his nation by Nazi Germany, Kolbe provided shelter to refugees from Greater Poland, including 2,000 Jews whom he hid from Nazi persecution in his friary in Niepokalanów.
On 17 February 1941, he was arrested by the German Gestapo and imprisoned in the Pawiak prison. On 28 May, he was transferred to Auschwitz as prisoner #16670.
At the end of July 1941, three prisoners disappeared from the camp, prompting SS-Hauptsturmführer Karl Fritzsch, the deputy camp commander, to pick 10 men to be starved to death in an underground bunker in order to deter further escape attempts. When one of the selected men, Franciszek Gajowniczek, cried out, "My wife! My children!", Kolbe volunteered to take his place.
In his prison cell, Kolbe celebrated Mass each day and sang hymns with the prisoners. He led the other condemned men in song and prayer and encouraged them by telling them they would soon be with Mary in Heaven. Each time the guards checked on him, he was standing or kneeling in the middle of the cell and looking calmly at those who entered. After two weeks of dehydration and starvation, only Kolbe remained alive. The guards wanted the bunker emptied and they gave Kolbe a lethal injection of carbolic acid. Some who were present at the injection say that he raised his left arm and calmly waited for the injection. His remains were cremated on 15 August, the feast day of the Assumption of Mary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilia ... _Auschwitz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian_Kolbe#Death_at_Auschwitz)
A. Philip Randolph
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/rel ... 53211196/1 (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2012-02-22/black-atheists-civil-rights/53211196/1)
King Menelik 2
Defeated a major European power (Italy) at the Battle of Adowa in 1896 and stopped them making Ethiopia part of the Italian Empire.
Quote from: "sab"King Menelik 2
Defeated a major European power (Italy) at the Battle of Adowa in 1896 and stopped them making Ethiopia part of the Italian Empire.
Here's a book on that battle that I actually have in my personal library.
http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php? ... 0674052741 (http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674052741)
I have several books on Ethiopia. My main interest is that it is the oldest
continual christian nation.
It is also the craddle of humankind (Rip Valley).
We are all of those things. Unfortunately we are being ripped apart by Islamists.
Too bad Somalia was unable to prevent its occupation by Italy.
Quote from: "sab"We are all of those things. Unfortunately we are being ripped apart by Islamists.
I would say that yopu being ripped apart by opertunist not exactly islamist. True they may be all muslims and they may even wage what is essentially a holy war, but the leaders are really profiteers that want land slaves and assets. The foriegn christians were just as bad in that nation. Man it seems like everybody at one time or another took a shot at Etheopia.
I have been there once when I was deployed to Mambasa Kenya. I took a long weekend trip there (the wild areas). Beautiful nation and freindly people. I could vacation there for decades and be as facinated equally to the first time I went there.
Paul Walker did more than drive fast cars.
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QuoteIn March 2010, Walker went to Constitución, Chile to offer his help and support to the people injured in the 8.8 magnitude earthquake that struck on February 27. He flew with his humanitarian aid team, Reach Out Worldwide, to Haiti to lend a helping hand to the 2010 Haiti earthquake victims.
An avid car enthusiast, he competed in the Redline Time Attack racing series in which he raced an M3 E92 and was on the AE Performance Team. His car was sponsored by Etnies, Brembo Brakes, Ohlins, Volk, OS Giken, Hankook, Gintani, and Reach Out Worldwide. Walker had been preparing for an auto show prior to his death.
Roger Rodas became Walker's financial adviser in 2007 and helped to establish Reach Out Worldwide. Rodas was the CEO of Always Evolving, a Valencia high-end vehicle performance shop owned by Walker. He shared a close friendship with his The Fast and the Furious co-star Tyrese Gibson.
Also...
QuoteWalker's first passion was marine biology; he joined the Board of Directors of The Billfish Foundation in 2006. He fulfilled a lifelong dream by starring in a National Geographic Channel series Expedition Great White (later retitled Shark Men), which premiered in June 2010. He spent 11 days as part of the crew, catching and tagging 7 great white sharks off the coast of Mexico. The expedition, led by Chris Fischer, founder and CEO of Fischer Productions, along with Captain Brett McBride and Dr. Michael Domeier of the Marine Conservation Science Institute took measurements, gathered DNA samples, and fastened real-time satellite tags to the great white sharks. This allowed Dr. Domeier to study migratory patterns especially those associated with mating and birthing over a 5-year period of time.
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Julian Assange
Edward Snowden
Bradley Manning
The Pirate Bay guys
... and others who fight for freedom.
Quote from: "Atheon"Julian Assange
Edward Snowden
Bradley Manning
The Pirate Bay guys
... and others who fight for freedom.
As I said before these people had a choice to do things right and they would not have broken the law nor would they be traitors or have committed treason. I don't fault their motive. I fault their method. In past post I have laid out the proceedures and options they had, that they could have used so I won't go in to it.
These are not brave admirable people. They are people that committed treason.
I agree that the NSA has gone too far but there are better more effective ways to go about reigning in the NSA. As a matter of fact I consider the NSA unconstitutional for it's very existance, but that is a civics matter and has nothing to do with the crimes that the people you chose. Just because the NSA committed crimes does not for one moment justify the crimes of the people on your list. If they had no other option, I would be 100% behind them but they had better legal options and chose fame over justice. That I cannot abide.
I know we have had this argument before so I won't go heavily into it, but when the law is both wrong and broken then you have no moral responsibility to follow it so long as you hurt no one in the process. They had no reason to believe that the legal means would either achieve anything or protect them because it hasn't demonstrated it has any intention to.
It's like telling a Chinese journalist who speaks out against the chairman or an Iranian informant that exposes the ayatollah as corrupt, "Why didn't you just follow the law? Instead you committed treason against China or Iran!". If Julian Assange or Chelsea Manning was Chinese, Russian, Korean or Iranian we would be singing accolades of how brave they were and how they stood up for the illegal or immoral actions of their regime. But if an American does the same thing, "Oh no, no, no! He is a traitor, he must swing from the ropes!".
It's just a silly double standard. Either it's not brave and admirable when other's do it, or it is. The nationality of the person should not change the moral implications. Also, good luck charging Assange with treason, since he isn't American....
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Quote from: "Shiranu"I know we have had this argument before so I won't go heavily into it, but when the law is both wrong and broken then you have no moral responsibility to follow it so long as you hurt no one in the process. They had no reason to believe that the legal means would either achieve anything or protect them because it hasn't demonstrated it has any intention to.
It's like telling a Chinese journalist who speaks out against the chairman or an Iranian informant that exposes the ayatollah as corrupt, "Why didn't you just follow the law? Instead you committed treason against China or Iran!". If Julian Assange or Chelsea Manning was Chinese, Russian, Korean or Iranian we would be singing accolades of how brave they were and how they stood up for the illegal or immoral actions of their regime. But if an American does the same thing, "Oh no, no, no! He is a traitor, he must swing from the ropes!".
It's just a silly double standard. Either it's not brave and admirable when other's do it, or it is. The nationality of the person should not change the moral implications. Also, good luck charging Assange with treason, since he isn't American....
As far as Snowden and Manning are concerned they had legal recourse that they could have taken and there is a certainty that they would have acheived what they thought was right without breaking the law. If the NSA was breaking the law (I'm sure they were) both Snowden and Manning could have gone to Congress without consequence. Noone will charge Assange with treason but he might have broke a few laws. I can't say for sure. I know that you can't pay to have someone else break the law and be innocent and that seems to be the circumstance with Assange. BTW payment can be in many forms.
Moses was a prince in Egypt at a time when Egypt was in cultural decay (much like modern culture is). Moses had the wisdom to know that decaying cultures can't be saved, so he took a bunch of uneducated slaves out of Egypt and constructed a religion to civilize them. This religion was an amazing accomplishment as a tool for morality and is still with us today. This is why Moses is the person I most admire.
Eeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhh....
QuoteMoses had the wisdom to know that decaying cultures can't be saved, so he took a bunch of uneducated slaves out of Egypt and constructed a religion to civilize them.
You'd think we'd be able to find some evidence of these kind of events, but we don't. I guess that must be a miracle or something :roll: