[youtube:15qaptac]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVi1GAHrILI[/youtube:15qaptac]
Either a very delusional guy or a brilliant con man. He had me thinking: "Wow, this is really a good story."
Then the video ended and I went back to my previous conclusion of "God" being bullshit :rolleyes: :rollin:
So why then do we even need a healthcare bill?
Quote from: "ZachyFTW"Writer posted a YouTube video (//http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVi1GAHrILI)
He had me thinking: "Wow, this is really a good story."
The part that convinced me was the mellow background music. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was the music.
(//http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=4730677) :lol:
I think the word I'm looking for is "schmaltzy".
I don't believe his story or that he was an atheist! I have out-of-body experiences and was dying in my back yard, and was also pronounced dead because my heart stopped, and I have worked in an emergency room in a hospital and nothing he says have I ever seen happen. especially not being able to get help for emergency surgery. It's just more BS from the theist. Good call! This supports better health care unless you want to pray away physical conditions. Good luck with that. :rollin: Solitary
Quote from: "Solitary"I don't believe his story or that he was an atheist! I have out-of-body experiences and was dying in my back yard, and was also pronounced dead because my heart stopped, and I have worked in an emergency room in a hospital and nothing he says have I ever seen happen. especially not being able to get help for emergency surgery. It's just more BS from the theist. Good call! This supports better health care unless you want to pray away physical conditions. Good luck with that. :rollin: Solitary
I think we need to shut down public hospitals, and pay churches to exorcise demons and pray for dying people.
Quote from: "SGOS"So why then do we even need a healthcare bill?
Healthcare? That would imply that praying doesn't solve everything. We can't have any of that thinking, or for that matter any thinking at all.
QuoteI think we need to shut down public hospitals, and pay churches to exorcise demons and pray for dying people.
We should just give people the choice. Either your insurance gets you regular healthcare, or you get prayer-based healing only if there's a problem.
It'll probably thin the herd quite a bit.
Aw. What a cute fantasy/hallucination.
Terrified of death because of being an atheist? Because you know. Eternal nonexistence is so much worse than eternal damnation.
I used to be afraid that if a plane crashed on top of me when I was sneaking an extra cookie, I would go straight to hell.
QuoteI used to be afraid that if a plane crashed on top of me when I was sneaking an extra cookie, I would go straight to hell.
But you still took the cookie :P Shows how effective the whole thing was with all the fear and bad side effects it causes.
Quote from: "Cyanne"Terrified of death because of being an atheist?
Yeah, that was an immediate tip off that the thing was bogus. I suppose some atheists are afraid of death, and maybe he was one of them. But someone should tip off theists that using that dramatic ploy in videos and forums tends to undermine their credibility as former atheists.
He strikes me as sincere and he seems to truly believe he went to hell and was saved by Jesus; I don't think this is a scam. If I had a similarly profound experience, convinced that it was real and that people's fate were in jeopardy, I would probably be telling people about my experience too. He most likely was in a delirium induced by extreme pain (I can even imagine feeling "torn apart" and then euphoric after being given a shot of morphine) but I wouldn't argue with this guy that his experience wasn't real because I'm sure it felt real to him.
The moment he mentions Jesus I knew it was a scam & not even a delusion.What about Muslims who dream of Muhammad & the Muslim Jesus though? Oh yeah, my bad. It's the work of the devil.
There is a clear difference between insight and hallucination. An insight is an often sudden understanding that changes one's perception. This guy is describing a hallucination (queue actress dressed in lovely angel attire walking through white veils using a softened exposure when the Jesus actor reads the appropriate lines in the script where she appears).
And when the light springs forth from the darkness, the main character, calling on theatrics first devised by Cecil B. DeMille in 1940's Hollywood, looks up dramatically with the prerequisite defensive arm shielding his eyes from the brightness as if in fear. He arches his back and then slowing rising toward the light in wonder, he accepts the inevitable and understands he is being embraced by a divine power so strong that he must finally succumb. And finally, after a long life of atheistic debauchery, he finds salvation as the music crescendos and his battle of self comes to an end.
Dim the lights and close curtains.
Damn it, I was in a coma for 4 days and didn't see shit. I was a Mormon. If I'd been an atheist then, maybe I'd a seen shit. Life is just not fair.
The amazing Randi never believed in out of body experiences until he had one. He was convinced he was on the ceiling watching himself on the bed with his cat. That was until his friends in the other room showed him the cat was on the porch the whole time. When I had an out of body experience both times it was as real as it could be, but not for a second did I think it was more than a trick my brain was producing. Our brain creates the world we experience, but that isn't reality, it is a personal hallucination. We have a memory that stores all that data to produce hallucinations that seem so real. especially in times of great emotional stress.
What we use to create the world we and everyone else experiences is actually data from the real world around us. I always have very vivid dreams, one time I knew I was dreaming and decided it was just a dream so I started to change everything in the dream that let me know it was a dream until it looked just like reality. I didn't know where I was at and afraid I wouldn't get back to my wife. If I had been religious I would have believed it was real. Most of the time my dreams are very life like, but that was the first and last time I could make a dream so realistic. Solitary
I vote for "atheism for fundies", otherwise known as pure bullshit.
As an atheist who has faced death many times, and been declared dead once, I know that thoughts of Jebus or Gawd are the furthest things from my mind at times like that. As someone said in another thread, most of the times that I was faced with immanent death I prayed to the Irish fecal god, O'Shit. (The other times I was too busy staying alive to think of anything else.)
A perforated stomach for 8 hours and he wasn't permanently dead of peritonitis? A surgical hospital and they couldn't find an abdominal surgeon until the next day? Tell me another.
Quote from: "SGOS"Quote from: "Cyanne"Terrified of death because of being an atheist?
Yeah, that was an immediate tip off that the thing was bogus. I suppose some atheists are afraid of death, and maybe he was one of them. But someone should tip off theists that using that dramatic ploy in videos and forums tends to undermine their credibility as former atheists.
Maybe he's one of those people who thinks atheist means 'theist who hates God.'
I kept thinking, they couldn't find a surgeon? How convenient. That's not even a good story.