So I turned 18 about a month ago and got a tattoo that I had planned for for over a year. It is a yin yang with a straight black and white (my skin color lol) sun coming out of it. I think it's quite beautiful but I will skip to the point...
I was at the pool today with my girl enjoying a beautiful day and this lady, probably around 35ish, comes up to us and begins to talk about Jesus of course. Then she says that I must have strong faith to get myself tattooed with my yin yang. I of course ask why and then she tells me that yin and yang are symbolic of Male and Female being one body and she equates this to Mary and Jesus and the whole virgin birth bullshit. I was so fucking offended but, being a closeted atheist had to argue my point without revealing my true religious stance. I told her that she was misinformed and that yin yang had originated in Taoism. And yes, she did indeed ask what Taoism was...... At this point I am literally about to punch this bitch in the face. She keeps talking and talking and talking. I finally just grab my girlfriend by the hand and walk to the other side of the pool.
It really should be a crime to be that fucking ignorant. This was a full 8 hours ago and I'm still sitting here wondering how the fuck someone can be that god damn stupid.
EDIT: here is a picture of the tattoo I have http://distilleryimage8.s3.amazonaws.co ... 9be5_6.jpg (http://distilleryimage8.s3.amazonaws.com/3b97b4d2eb2611e2a3d822000a1f9be5_6.jpg)
#-o :lol: Solitary
And the Buddhist wheel symbolizes that Jesus is always at the helm. :P
Sorry, but I laughed when I read this. :lol:
As Einstein said - "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Seems to fit here.
Quote from: "ZachyFTW"I'm still sitting here wondering how the fuck someone can be that god damn stupid.
They can be brought up in a home in which they're taught, from birth, that thinking is a sin. You don't want to be a sinner, do you? [-X
Quote from: "LikelyToBreak"Sorry, but I laughed when I read this. :lol:
As Einstein said - "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Seems to fit here.
:rollin: :rollin: Very VERY good ROFLMFAO
Hahahahahah =D>
Quote from: "ZachyFTW"So I turned 18 about a month ago and got a tattoo that I had planned for for over a year. It is a yin yang with a straight black and white (my skin color lol) sun coming out of it. I think it's quite beautiful but I will skip to the point...
I was at the pool today with my girl enjoying a beautiful day and this lady, probably around 35ish, comes up to us and begins to talk about Jesus of course. Then she says that I must have strong faith to get myself tattooed with my yin yang. I of course ask why and then she tells me that yin and yang are symbolic of Male and Female being one body and she equates this to Mary and Jesus and the whole virgin birth bullshit. I was so fucking offended but, being a closeted atheist had to argue my point without revealing my true religious stance. I told her that she was misinformed and that yin yang had originated in Taoism. And yes, she did indeed ask what Taoism was...... At this point I am literally about to punch this bitch in the face. She keeps talking and talking and talking. I finally just grab my girlfriend by the hand and walk to the other side of the pool.
It really should be a crime to be that fucking ignorant. This was a full 8 hours ago and I'm still sitting here wondering how the fuck someone can be that god damn stupid.
Oh for cryin' out loud. This lady is WAAAAAAY off. Yin and Yang have nothing to do with western culture whatsoever. It is an Asian philosophy of balance in nature.
http://www.sacredlotus.com/theory/yinyang.cfm (http://www.sacredlotus.com/theory/yinyang.cfm)
The symbol is 700 years older than christianity. This just another example of uneducated moronic christians trying to hijack something that is popular and misdefining for their own political purposes!
This is a great example of Christians trying to "Christianize" a symbol to make it less offensive to them. They stole the cross, the fish, the sun, and every other symbol from other religions, and just can't imagine ANY symbol not being about Jesus in some way. They even claim the pentagram for Satan, who is really just another of their deities (even though he is a bad deity).
Quote from: "ApostateLois"This is a great example of Christians trying to "Christianize" a symbol to make it less offensive to them. They stole the cross, the fish, the sun, and every other symbol from other religions, and just can't imagine ANY symbol not being about Jesus in some way. They even claim the pentagram for Satan, who is really just another of their deities (even though he is a bad deity).
Yep the only thing they didn't steal is the pentagram - which was There's to begin with. Derrrrr
The oldest yin-yang is actually Roman and Celtic. The Celtic version dates back as far as possibly the 5th century B.C.E, though it lacked the dots. Bellow is the Roman version.
(//http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Armigeri_defensores_seniores_shield_pattern.svg/500px-Armigeri_defensores_seniores_shield_pattern.svg.png)
That said, when we use the yin-yang we commonly think of the Asian meaning behind it.
What would be REALLY funny is if it was a Leviticus 19:28 tattoo.
But yeah, yin and yang has roots in eastern religions to symbolize universal balance.
Quote from: "Shiranu"The oldest yin-yang is actually Roman and Celtic. The Celtic version dates back as far as possibly the 5th century B.C.E, though it lacked the dots. Bellow is the Roman version.
[ Image (//http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Armigeri_defensores_seniores_shield_pattern.svg/500px-Armigeri_defensores_seniores_shield_pattern.svg.png) ]
That said, when we use the yin-yang we commonly think of the Asian meaning behind it.
Well, I stand corrected in the root of yin and yang.
To be fair again, the one we use IS the Asian Yin & Yang. But like the cross, it predates the religion/philosophy it is associated with (Cross obvious as a tool of execution, but the Celtics and other groups have used the cross motif before the Roman's used it to execute and long before Christianity was exposed to them).
But even using that argument, I don't think the Roman version had anything to do with Christianity, nor the Celtic.
Quote from: "PickelledEggs"Quote from: "Shiranu"The oldest yin-yang is actually Roman and Celtic. The Celtic version dates back as far as possibly the 5th century B.C.E, though it lacked the dots. Bellow is the Roman version.
[ Image (//http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Armigeri_defensores_seniores_shield_pattern.svg/500px-Armigeri_defensores_seniores_shield_pattern.svg.png) ]
That said, when we use the yin-yang we commonly think of the Asian meaning behind it.
Well, I stand corrected in the root of yin and yang.
(//http://spiritualityireland.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Yin-yang-.....-early-Celts4.png)
Celtic 1st century
Quote from: "Shiranu"To be fair again, the one we use IS the Asian Yin & Yang. But like the cross, it predates the religion/philosophy it is associated with (Cross obvious as a tool of execution, but the Celtics and other groups have used the cross motif before the Roman's used it to execute and long before Christianity was exposed to them).
But even using that argument, I don't think the Roman version had anything to do with Christianity, nor the Celtic.
Very true.
and if I recall correctly, the cross not only dates back to ancient Egypt, but I heard from a few sources that it also has to do with something about astrology
Edit: I think the astrology part of it was to help people agriculturally.
Quote from: "Shiranu"The oldest yin-yang is actually Roman and Celtic. The Celtic version dates back as far as possibly the 5th century B.C.E, though it lacked the dots. Bellow is the Roman version.
[ Image (//http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Armigeri_defensores_seniores_shield_pattern.svg/500px-Armigeri_defensores_seniores_shield_pattern.svg.png) ]
That said, when we use the yin-yang we commonly think of the Asian meaning behind it.
You are comparing apples and oranges. The symbols are now called by the same name now because of appearance only (like, crosses are all called crosses even if they are not related to Christianity), but they arose separately and have very different cultural meanings. It is nothing like the cross, which was stolen and turned into something else directly.
They are similar in appearance, but otherwise, completely unrelated. To say one arose earlier is extremely misleading,. as it implies they are somehow otherwise mostly the same.
Oh, BTW @ the OP: Ahahahah! Wow, people can be seriously stupid.
Quote from: "Shiranu"The oldest yin-yang is actually Roman and Celtic. The Celtic version dates back as far as possibly the 5th century B.C.E, though it lacked the dots. Bellow is the Roman version.
[ Image (//http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/28/Armigeri_defensores_seniores_shield_pattern.svg/500px-Armigeri_defensores_seniores_shield_pattern.svg.png) ]
That said, when we use the yin-yang we commonly think of the Asian meaning behind it.
Actually the Chinese version predates the Celtics by at least two centuries, maybe longer.
You all bring up very good points but are completely missing mine. I didn't get offended because she thought it was a Christian symbol, I got offended because she said "I must have strong faith." She did not even know my name but felt like she knew enough in her peanut sized head to understand why something meant so much to me that I got it permanently inked onto my skin. If you look at something from your own bias perspective of course you're going to see what you want to. I would have had a completely different opinion if she had ask me what it meant to me. It symbolizes the struggles I've gone through, the troubles I've overcome, the hope that I have in my life. I got it inked onto me because of what it means to me. I don't give a flying fuck if it means sodomy to someone else, it's my body and my mind. Her is a picture for those interested. http://distilleryimage8.s3.amazonaws.co ... 9be5_6.jpg (http://distilleryimage8.s3.amazonaws.com/3b97b4d2eb2611e2a3d822000a1f9be5_6.jpg)
Ah, but she KNOWS what it means to you because she KNOWS what the symbol means to her! Her pastor probably told her, and he has, like, a direct connection to God and stuff, so how could she be wrong? Actually, she probably got it from this fucked-up page. (//http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Other%20Pagan%20Mumbo-Jumbo/yin-yang.htm) It's one of those pages that is so over-the-top that I can't tell if it's real or satire. :rolleyes:
Tooth fairy has 'her' roots in Jaheeeezez.. :)
Quote from: "ApostateLois"Actually, she probably got it from this fucked-up page. (//http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Other%20Pagan%20Mumbo-Jumbo/yin-yang.htm) It's one of those pages that is so over-the-top that I can't tell if it's real or satire. :rolleyes:
It's not satire, but to be any more wrong one would have to use something other than words. To put in terms of the page itself, it's extremely high in Stupid-Fu.
BTW:
Yin-yang, light-dark, good-bad.
Christianity, light-dark, good-bad.
Add just one more level of stupid. But I like the page's contention that this "not perfect light, not perfect dark" - which is what Christianity tells us that all people are - is somehow pro-homosexuality, which Christianity - and Communism - is against.
Yin-yang, Christianity and Communism are all the same thing according to this page. And I won't even think of contradicting that.
You should have gotten a tramp stamp. :)
Quote from: "Hydra009"And the Buddhist wheel symbolizes that Jesus is always at the helm. :P
Or the mark of chaos on your World Eater.