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Title: Dr. Oz
Post by: Solitary on July 22, 2013, 02:14:28 PM
He's a heart surgeon and should know what's good for your heart right? I never watched Oprah, but happened to turn it on one day and watch Dr. Oz. I took his advice from that day and started to take aspirin as he suggested. My endocrinologist told me to quit taking the aspirin. I'm not sure who was the worse for giving advice.

 After I quit taking the aspirin and taking my endocrinologist's advice I had my first deep vein thrombosis that cause embolisms in my lungs. I found out later that quitting aspirin like I did, and taking my endocrinologist's advice would cause blood clots.

So here is the award Dr. Oz received, and I think my endocrinologists deserves too for not admitting he gave me a drug that would cause blood clots.  

The Media Pigasus Award goes to Dr. Mehmet Oz, who has done such a disservice to his TV viewers by promoting quack medical practices that he is now the first person to win a Pigasus two years in a row. Dr. Oz is a Harvard-educated cardiac physician who, through his syndicated TV show, has promoted faith healing, "energy medicine," and other quack theories that have no scientific basis.

Oz has appeared on ABC News to give legitimacy to the claims of Brazilian faith healer "John of God," who uses old carnival tricks to take money from the seriously ill. He's hosted Ayurvedic guru Yogi Cameron on his show to promote nonsense "tongue examination" as a way of diagnosing health problems.

 This year, he really went off the deep end. In March 2011, Dr. Oz endorsed "psychic" huckster and past Pigasus winner John Edward, who pretends to talk to dead people. Oz even suggested that bereaved families should visit psychic mediums to receive (faked) messages from their dead relatives as a form of grief counseling.  :roll:  :evil:  Solitary
Title: Re: Dr. Oz
Post by: stromboli on July 22, 2013, 02:30:53 PM
Dr. Oz has pushed some questionable stuff
http://www.vancouversun.com/life/oprah/ ... story.html (http://www.vancouversun.com/life/oprah/second+opinion+advice+good+doctor+tips+debunked/7856295/story.html)
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/ ... bdication/ (http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/04/13/dr-oz-americas-doctor-and-the-abdication/)
http://ethicalnag.org/2010/09/01/celebrity-doctors/ (http://ethicalnag.org/2010/09/01/celebrity-doctors/)

This is silly. We've got Dr. Phil, who currently is not licensed as a psychologist dispensing his mental BS one one channel and OZ dispensing health BS on another. He has pushed alternative health cures that are not proven or questionable.
Title: Re: Dr. Oz
Post by: Colanth on July 22, 2013, 04:38:48 PM
Going back to the beginning, though, aspirin therapy to prevent clots is considered standard medical practice.  Stopping almost any medication that's been taken for a long time isn't recommended.
Title: Re: Dr. Oz
Post by: stromboli on July 22, 2013, 05:11:09 PM
Quote from: "Colanth"Going back to the beginning, though, aspirin therapy to prevent clots is considered standard medical practice.  Stopping almost any medication that's been taken for a long time isn't recommended.

Right.  I take a partial dose of aspirin daily.
Title: Re: Dr. Oz
Post by: Solitary on July 22, 2013, 05:30:16 PM
Quote from: "Colanth"Going back to the beginning, though, aspirin therapy to prevent clots is considered standard medical practice.  Stopping almost any medication that's been taken for a long time isn't recommended.


Dr. Oz said that what was recommended wasn't enough. It was recommended by my endocrinologists to stop. Aspirin is recommended to prevent heart irregularities also. But warfarin is what is recommended if one has a blood clot problem. This is after taking Lovenox first. Solitary
Title: Re: Dr. Oz
Post by: Colanth on July 23, 2013, 03:27:37 PM
Quote from: "Solitary"Dr. Oz said that what was recommended wasn't enough. It was recommended by my endocrinologists to stop. Aspirin is recommended to prevent heart irregularities also. But warfarin is what is recommended if one has a blood clot problem. This is after taking Lovenox first. Solitary
What's "recommended" is different for different patients - there's no one size fits all solution.  I'm on aspirin and Plavix (among other things), but I wouldn't recommend that everyone start taking either one.  (There are different clotting modes - each med addresses a particular mode.  What might cause your blood to clot when it shouldn't may not be the same thing that would cause mine to.)
Title: Re: Dr. Oz
Post by: Sal1981 on July 23, 2013, 10:18:45 PM
When you discontinue a drug, you have to taper it down first, to ween off.
Title: Re: Dr. Oz
Post by: Solitary on July 24, 2013, 12:21:29 AM
Quote from: "Colanth"
Quote from: "Solitary"Dr. Oz said that what was recommended wasn't enough. It was recommended by my endocrinologists to stop. Aspirin is recommended to prevent heart irregularities also. But warfarin is what is recommended if one has a blood clot problem. This is after taking Lovenox first. Solitary
What's "recommended" is different for different patients - there's no one size fits all solution.  I'm on aspirin and Plavix (among other things), but I wouldn't recommend that everyone start taking either one.  (There are different clotting modes - each med addresses a particular mode.  What might cause your blood to clot when it shouldn't may not be the same thing that would cause mine to.)

I agree, and this is why I think Dr. Oz is dangerous to listen to even if he is a heart specialist. If I had always watched him on the show with alternative medicine BS I would have known. My endocrinologist finally admitted he did tell me that after my wife told him she was with me when he said it, then he had the gall to tell us it wasn't his expertize.

I would think anyone that finished medical school would have known that it wasn't a good idea to stop aspirin therapy. I know you don't just stop taking any kind of prescription drug, but when so-called professionals suggest you take something that isn't prescription and another tells you to stop you hope and trust they know what they're saying.  Solitary
Title: Re: Dr. Oz
Post by: Colanth on July 24, 2013, 12:59:32 AM
Quoting my pharmacist brother-in-law, "Give any doctor half a chance and he'll kill you".