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Title: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: drunkenshoe on July 06, 2013, 12:51:16 PM
http://www.livescience.com/23500-why-me ... easts.html (http://www.livescience.com/23500-why-men-love-breasts.html)

Quote...Recent studies have found that nipple stimulation enhances sexual arousal in the great majority of women, and it activates the same brain areas as vaginal and clitoral stimulation. When a sexual partner touches, massages or nibbles a woman's breasts, Young said, this triggers the release of oxytocin in the woman's brain, just like what happens when a baby nurses. But in this context, the oxytocin focuses the woman's attention on her sexual partner, strengthening her desire to bond with this person.

In other words, men can make themselves more desirable by stimulating a woman's breasts during foreplay and sex. Evolution has, in a sense, made men want to do this.

Attraction to breasts "is a brain organization effect that occurs in straight males when they go through puberty," Young told Life's Little Mysteries. "Evolution has selected for this brain organization in men that makes them attracted to the breasts in a sexual context, because the outcome is that it activates the female bonding circuit, making women feel more bonded with him. It's a behavior that males have evolved in order to stimulate the female's maternal bonding circuitry."

So, why did this evolutionary change happen in humans, and not in other breast-feeding mammals? Young thinks it's because we form monogamous relationships, whereas 97 percent of mammals do not. "Secondly, it might have to do with the fact that we are upright and have face-to-face sex, which provides more opportunity for nipple stimulation during sex. In monogamous voles, for example, the nipples are hanging toward the ground and the voles mate from behind, so this didn't evolve," he said. "So, maybe the nature of our sexuality has allowed greater access to the breasts.


Makes sense but also doesn't. How about lesbians? And in a couple of comments it's mentioned that there are many cultures which do not define breasts as sexual and that this obsession is a learned behaviour. I agree with that.

What say you?
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: the_antithesis on July 06, 2013, 01:39:42 PM
Tuning in Tokyo!
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: stromboli on July 06, 2013, 01:43:24 PM
Its very simple. When you are born they first make sure you are breathing, and then they hand you to mommy to see if you will accept her milk. 90% of the time, the first thing you receive that is nourishing and welcome after the trauma of birth comes from a woman's breast. And you spend the next several months of your life suckling on that sweet milk as well. Ain't difficult to understand.
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Johan on July 06, 2013, 01:49:39 PM
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Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Voskhod on July 06, 2013, 02:22:35 PM
Quote from: "stromboli"Its very simple. When you are born they first make sure you are breathing, and then they hand you to mommy to see if you will accept her milk. 90% of the time, the first thing you receive that is nourishing and welcome after the trauma of birth comes from a woman's breast. And you spend the next several months of your life suckling on that sweet milk as well. Ain't difficult to understand.

This theory, despite being pioneered by the ever popular Sigmund Freud, has been largely disproved - much like all his other theories.
If the theory were true, why aren't women attracted to breasts just as much as men are? They would have also been breast-fed.
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Solitary on July 06, 2013, 02:24:48 PM
:-k   :-$   #-o   :-k  I don't know.  :-?  Solitary
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Sargon The Grape on July 06, 2013, 02:31:38 PM
Quote from: drunkenshoeWhat does picher mean? E: You mean pics? :roll:
Many Americans have this compulsive desire to purposefully butcher the English language while trying to be funny.

Edit: And why the heck did my quote break?
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: stromboli on July 06, 2013, 03:46:05 PM
QuoteLarry Young, a professor of psychiatry at Emory University who studies the neurological basis of complex social behaviors, thinks human evolution has harnessed an ancient neural circuit that originally evolved to strengthen the mother-infant bond during breast-feeding, and now uses this brain circuitry to strengthen the bond between couples as well. The result? Men, like babies, love breasts.

I didn't quote Freud, I pointed out the obvious. Breast appreciation is connected to breast feeding. It may be inherently chemical, but the relationship is still there.

(edit) oh, and by the way, I think if you check, you'll discover a lot of women are attracted to other women's breasts.
http://www.yourtango.com/2012158021/wei ... ify-ladies (http://www.yourtango.com/2012158021/weird-news-sciences-says-men-women-both-objectify-ladies)
QuoteA study shows that both genders tend to focus on women's body parts, not entire bodies.
You know how people say that men are ALWAYS objectifying women? Well, they are. However, women do it too. From their lips, nips and hips to their toe tips, a gal will eyeball a woman as collection of body parts nearly as readily as a man, per a new study published in Science Daily (originally in the European Journal of Social Psychology).
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: aitm on July 06, 2013, 05:01:18 PM
could it be that we tend to want things we ain't supposed to see? I don't know if the tribes where the women are constantly bare-breasted have such luck and I don't recall any such talk in any of the books I have read about the native American tribes having any breast fixation. Me thinks because we hide them and make them "special" that we want to have those puppies in our mouths and hands.....now shoe...bout those pics...cause you would be only doing it in the interest of science.....kinda.


 :-"
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Brian37 on July 06, 2013, 05:40:23 PM
Really, I get that science DOES figure out the biology of life. The laypersons explanation is simple.

THEY ARE FUN BAGS! Unless you are a gay man, but would include lesbians.

So for heterosexuals and lesbians and bis, breasts are fun because they are fun.
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on July 06, 2013, 06:14:54 PM
A. Soft, B. Just inches above belly which is inches above vagina C. Jiggle D. Make great pillows and places to cry
And science hasn't figured THAT OUT?  Plus Christianity.. well, religion in general is against breasts except in old paintings..  
C'mon science.. Get with the program.. :roll:
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: the_antithesis on July 06, 2013, 11:36:50 PM
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"What does picher mean?

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Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Jason78 on July 07, 2013, 02:58:16 AM
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"What say you?

Boobs are awesome.
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Agramon on July 07, 2013, 03:59:24 AM
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"Penis is awesome too. It's a no-no that we penis lovers express it loud around.

*Gasp! I said 'penis is awesome'. See what kind of a dirty whore I am?
Not really. Could you provide more evidence on this point? For science, I mean.
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 07, 2013, 05:16:57 AM
Boobies!
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 07, 2013, 05:25:24 AM
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"Peeeenis!
Motorboating?
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 07, 2013, 05:26:06 AM
BTW, I used wear a t-shirt that said "SLUT" on the front and "NEEDED" on the back.  :lol:
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 07, 2013, 05:39:39 AM
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"
Quote from: "Gawdzilla Sama"
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"Peeeenis!
Motorboating?

Naaah just talking to myself.
Bummer.  [-(
Quote
QuoteBTW, I used wear a t-shirt that said "SLUT" on the front and "NEEDED" on the back.

Yeah...because it is really helpfull to the "We love boobies" cause? :lol:
At least I'm ... ahem ... up front about it.
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 07, 2013, 06:06:37 AM
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"Err...stop deflecting. :lol:
Oh, that's right, your eyes are up there.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Jason78 on July 07, 2013, 07:17:45 AM
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"Years ago, I've once sent the pic of my feet to an online American acquaintance -from a UK site- who loved women's feet a bit too much, so he could 'fap' to it if he wanted. It was his birthday. He also collected these pics. Everything was/is OK with the man, he was smart, funny and decent, no problem at all. Known him online for years. It was so normal for both of us we joked about it without thinking that it could cause a headache. You know what did people do when they have 'found out' about it? Which wasn't even a secret, but that was how they felt,lol. Called me desperate, and 'acting loose' 'to get some Western man'. Oh yeaaaah... I was trying to get an American to get married by flashing my feet! And as a male, it was his natural right to take advantage of the situation, but why I was 'giving it'.  He was so mad, his account was suspended for the things he said, eventually banned. Yeah, that's the world culture we live in East-West-North-South, developed, underdeveloped. Don't fool yourselves. Now, where do you begin to handle something like this? From which part of the bigotry?

I don't think that's bigotry, that's jealousy.  You've got a nice relationship with someone where you can share stuff like that.  And They don't.
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Shiranu on July 07, 2013, 07:42:00 AM
Breasts, penises... I think I love this thread.
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 07, 2013, 07:48:02 AM
If your not a dick you can avoid making a boob of yourself.











Sorry, had to. It's in my contract.
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on July 07, 2013, 10:14:48 AM
For your undeniable fapping pleasure Shoezie.. Now you can tell em how desperate us Americans are. :)
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Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Plu on July 07, 2013, 04:56:18 PM
I don't know the biological reasons behind it, but I do know that touching her nipples makes my girlfriend wild :D

/tmi
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 07, 2013, 05:20:31 PM
Quote from: "Plu"I don't know the biological reasons behind it, but I do know that touching her nipples makes my girlfriend wild :D

/tmi
I knew a lady who was immune to any kind of come-on from a guy, but if you touched her breasts, even through clothing, she was yours. It was a closely guarded secret that only a few hundred of her male, and female, friends knew about.
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on July 07, 2013, 05:26:33 PM
I'm highly disappointed more females don't want me to grope them. :)
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 07, 2013, 06:13:48 PM
Die spammer, die.
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: SilentFutility on July 08, 2013, 03:16:23 PM
Quote from: "Gawdzilla Sama"
Quote from: "Plu"I don't know the biological reasons behind it, but I do know that touching her nipples makes my girlfriend wild :D

/tmi
I knew a lady who was immune to any kind of come-on from a guy, but if you touched her breasts, even through clothing, she was yours. It was a closely guarded secret that only a few hundred of her male, and female, friends knew about.

Pics or it didn't happen.
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 08, 2013, 03:39:56 PM
Quote from: "SilentFutility"
Quote from: "Gawdzilla Sama"
Quote from: "Plu"I don't know the biological reasons behind it, but I do know that touching her nipples makes my girlfriend wild :D

/tmi
I knew a lady who was immune to any kind of come-on from a guy, but if you touched her breasts, even through clothing, she was yours. It was a closely guarded secret that only a few hundred of her male, and female, friends knew about.

Pics or it didn't happen.
1981, Tegucigalpa. Pix around there would have been ... a very bad idea.
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Smartmarzipan on July 10, 2013, 12:27:50 PM
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"http://www.livescience.com/23500-why-men-love-breasts.html

Quote...Recent studies have found that nipple stimulation enhances sexual arousal in the great majority of women, and it activates the same brain areas as vaginal and clitoral stimulation. When a sexual partner touches, massages or nibbles a woman's breasts, Young said, this triggers the release of oxytocin in the woman's brain, just like what happens when a baby nurses. But in this context, the oxytocin focuses the woman's attention on her sexual partner, strengthening her desire to bond with this person.

In other words, men can make themselves more desirable by stimulating a woman's breasts during foreplay and sex. Evolution has, in a sense, made men want to do this.

Attraction to breasts "is a brain organization effect that occurs in straight males when they go through puberty," Young told Life's Little Mysteries. "Evolution has selected for this brain organization in men that makes them attracted to the breasts in a sexual context, because the outcome is that it activates the female bonding circuit, making women feel more bonded with him. It's a behavior that males have evolved in order to stimulate the female's maternal bonding circuitry."

So, why did this evolutionary change happen in humans, and not in other breast-feeding mammals? Young thinks it's because we form monogamous relationships, whereas 97 percent of mammals do not. "Secondly, it might have to do with the fact that we are upright and have face-to-face sex, which provides more opportunity for nipple stimulation during sex. In monogamous voles, for example, the nipples are hanging toward the ground and the voles mate from behind, so this didn't evolve," he said. "So, maybe the nature of our sexuality has allowed greater access to the breasts.


Makes sense but also doesn't. How about lesbians? And in a couple of comments it's mentioned that there are many cultures which do not define breasts as sexual and that this obsession is a learned behaviour. I agree with that.

What say you?

Humans aren't monogamous, though. I mean, we can be if we want to be, but speaking of our evolutionary history, we're not all that monogamous. We and our ancestors slept around. We're slightly less promiscuous than Bonobos and chimps, and that ain't saying much.
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Smartmarzipan on July 10, 2013, 12:41:04 PM
Quote from: "Brian37"Really, I get that science DOES figure out the biology of life. The laypersons explanation is simple.

THEY ARE FUN BAGS! Unless you are a gay man, but would include lesbians.

So for heterosexuals and lesbians and bis, breasts are fun because they are fun.

I have to agree with this assessment.

I was reading a book in which a scientist would put a little white or red cap on some zebra finches. For some reason, the lady finches LOVED the white cap, but shunned the males with the red cap. Conversely, when the males were given white bands around their ankles they were shunned, but the ladies loved the RED ankle bands.

To quote from the book:

QuoteWe cannot look at the results of Burley's costume experiments and say, Ah, yes, the females are using the white crest as an indicator that the males will be a good father, or that his genes are robust and therefore he's a great catch. A zebra finch with a white crest can hardly be said to bear superior finch genes when he's not supposed to have a crest in the first place. Instead, the unexpected findings offer evidence of the so-called sensory exploitation theory of mate choice. By this proposal, the white hat takes advantage of a neurophysiological process in the zebra finch's brain that serves some other, unknown purpose but that is easily coopted and aroused. The hate stimulates an extant neural pathtway, and it lures the female, and the female does not know why, but she knows what she likes. We can understand that impulse, the enticement of an object we seem beautiful.

"Woman", Natalie Angier, pg. 135

So, breasts could just simply be fun and beautiful to men, possibly in the same way that unnatural adornments are attractive.
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Solitary on July 10, 2013, 12:46:31 PM
Thanks for the mammaries!  =P~  8-) Solitary
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: SGOS on July 10, 2013, 01:49:57 PM
Yep.  I love them.  I don't know why.  I think they are wonderful, big or small.  Don't wreck it for me.  I'd like to touch some right now.
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Colanth on July 11, 2013, 01:28:31 AM
I wasn't breast-fed, so that reason isn't valid.  And I never "learned" to like breasts, I just do.  Why?  I have no idea, but I wouldn't accept someone's guess without evidence.
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: the_antithesis on July 11, 2013, 02:37:50 AM
I like to drizzle hot wax on them.
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Shiranu on July 11, 2013, 07:00:15 AM
I'm sure there is a scientific, evolution-based explanation, I'm just moderately indifferent. I think there are more important things scientists could be researching, like x-ray glasses so you can look at more breasts.
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: SGOS on July 11, 2013, 08:09:11 AM
Quote from: "the_antithesis"I like to drizzle hot wax on them.
I'm pretty sure that would be considered a learned response, as opposed to genetic.  You might want to do a study on that, and submit it to a scientific journal for peer review.
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: the_antithesis on July 11, 2013, 01:37:38 PM
Quote from: "SGOS"
Quote from: "the_antithesis"I like to drizzle hot wax on them.
I'm pretty sure that would be considered a learned response, as opposed to genetic.  You might want to do a study on that, and submit it to a scientific journal for peer review.
I also like to pee in the sink.
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: hillbillyatheist on July 11, 2013, 02:18:48 PM
I just want to say, I'm glad they aren't claiming the bullshit idea that men like boobs because they look like an ass.

seriously some idiot noticed the similarities between a cleavage and a plumbers asscrack and thought, hey, maybe thats why men like boobs!

of course it only takes a couple seconds of thought to realize the stupidity in that.

1. asses don't have nipples, and chests don't have assholes

2. fully exposed tits look nothing like a fully exposed ass, and humans evolved breasts and asses long before clothing were invented which would create similarities between an asscrack and cleavage peeping over the top of said clothing.

3. most (admittedly not all) people wouldn't motorboat, suck on or kiss a woman's ass.


seriously the image below is actualy a theory to some people. LOL!

(//http://bp2.uuuploads.com/butt-crack-cleavage-t-shirt/butt-crack-cleavage-t-shirt-2.jpg)
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: SGOS on July 11, 2013, 02:32:03 PM
Quote from: "the_antithesis"
Quote from: "SGOS"
Quote from: "the_antithesis"I like to drizzle hot wax on them.
I'm pretty sure that would be considered a learned response, as opposed to genetic.  You might want to do a study on that, and submit it to a scientific journal for peer review.
I also like to pee in the sink.
Yeah, so?  Who doesn't? :-D
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Rinth2011 on July 15, 2013, 01:14:46 PM
I once dated an atheist who really loved breasts. Just in case you're interested:

http://www.amazon.com/Atheists-Love-Bre ... 470123592/ (http://www.amazon.com/Atheists-Love-Breasts-Rinth-Shadley/dp/1470123592/)
Title: Re: New Theory on Why Men Love Breasts
Post by: Plu on July 15, 2013, 01:16:20 PM
I guess nothing in the book is actually on the topic of the difference between religious and non-religious men, though? :P
It sounds more like an attention grabber than a relevant part of the book.