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Title: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Blackleaf on November 29, 2024, 06:40:14 PM
DarkMatter puts into words how I've been feeling about this current political landscape for years now. SJW's/"the woke" are characterized as easily offended, actively seeking out things to be offended by, virtue signaling, and lacking in self-awareness. But now we have a countermovement from the Right, which is everything the "woke" are accused of being, but dialed to eleven. Going through movie and video game trailers with a fine toothed comb, looking for anything to be offended by. A character who is a different color than they think they should be? A woman who is portrayed as strong and independent, especially in a leading role. A gay character existing? Any excuse to scream into a camera for fifty minutes. They claim to be concerned about creepy men pretending to be women to follow girls into the bathroom, something which literally never happens, but they turn a blind eye to Trump outright admitting to walking into womens' dressing rooms to "grab 'em by the pussy." What is that, if not virtue signaling? It's clearly not an honest concern of theirs, but just an excuse to be bigoted towards trans people.


"Oh, I don't like politics in my media."

"Oh? What's politics?"

"Well, black people, gay people, strong, independent women, etc."

"Ooooh! So the word 'political' is doing a lot of heavy work, isn't it?"
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on November 29, 2024, 06:53:20 PM
Seen that on Youtube. Thought there had been a revelation, turns out it was just a bunch of hard right bullshit.
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Blackleaf on November 29, 2024, 07:15:18 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on November 29, 2024, 06:53:20 PMSeen that on Youtube. Thought there had been a revelation, turns out it was just a bunch of hard right bullshit.

What do you mean?
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Unbeliever on November 29, 2024, 07:27:20 PM
So, the Right is projecting again? Surprise, surprise.
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Dark Lightning on November 29, 2024, 08:02:08 PM
The right is where the snowflakes are. Don't like that footballer taking a knee during the national anthem before a game? Don't go to the game, even though you have season tickets. I've called guys like that snowflakes to their faces. Anything they're told not to like, they call "woke". Anytime one of them opens their mouth to complain, it's going to be projection. Fucking disgusting. Those guys are the real threat to the US, not drag queens (when is the last time has a drag queen ever molested a boy...or girl?
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Shiranu on November 29, 2024, 08:10:02 PM
Didn't know DarkMatter still posted; followed him on social media until he started attacking fans and having massive flip outs in public, figured he had burnt out or something.

Him talking about others being "offended" is wild.
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Sargon The Grape on November 30, 2024, 01:37:14 AM
Calling out hypocrisy only works if the hypocrite in question feels shame. Many on both sides do not. It's one of the largest contributors to America's political divide.
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Blackleaf on December 01, 2024, 10:00:03 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on November 29, 2024, 08:10:02 PMDidn't know DarkMatter still posted; followed him on social media until he started attacking fans and having massive flip outs in public, figured he had burnt out or something.

Him talking about others being "offended" is wild.

He never stopped. He's one of the most rational and fair people on YouTube. I don't know what you're on about.
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Shiranu on December 02, 2024, 02:56:14 AM
Quote from: Blackleaf on December 01, 2024, 10:00:03 AMHe never stopped. He's one of the most rational and fair people on YouTube. I don't know what you're on about.

He has had several meltdowns on social media, as I said I figured he had burnt out; normally when content creators start publically attacking their fans their careers tend to fizzle out.

Fair play to him for dodging that trend, perhaps the social media and YouTube crowd is pretty well segregated and AFAIK it was never on his YT - as I said, unfollowed pretty quickly when that started so wouldn't know.
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Sargon The Grape on December 02, 2024, 04:37:04 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on December 02, 2024, 02:56:14 AMHe has had several meltdowns on social media
Social media seems designed to bring out the absolute worst in otherwise decent people, which is why I don't tend to follow it. Seeing someone at their worst in public is degrading to everyone involved.
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on December 02, 2024, 07:34:14 AM
Groups we'll have never heard of find a voice on the net. That's good and that's bad. People, same-same.
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Blackleaf on December 04, 2024, 03:43:07 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on December 02, 2024, 02:56:14 AMHe has had several meltdowns on social media, as I said I figured he had burnt out; normally when content creators start publically attacking their fans their careers tend to fizzle out.

Fair play to him for dodging that trend, perhaps the social media and YouTube crowd is pretty well segregated and AFAIK it was never on his YT - as I said, unfollowed pretty quickly when that started so wouldn't know.

"You had an argument on Twitter once. Your argument is invalid."
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Blackleaf on December 04, 2024, 03:51:47 PM
Here's a segment of the video, since I'm sure no one actually watched it.


I can't believe they'd turn Sarah Conner into a girl boss like that. Ripley suddenly becomes more competent and powerful than than the marines, without ANY training? They turned her into a Mary Sue. What a way to shit on the legacy of the original movies. [/sarc]

This sounds exactly like the Critical Drinker and his kind.
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Shiranu on December 04, 2024, 04:42:11 PM
Quote from: Sargon The Grape on December 02, 2024, 04:37:04 AMSocial media seems designed to bring out the absolute worst in otherwise decent people, which is why I don't tend to follow it. Seeing someone at their worst in public is degrading to everyone involved.

Yep; "Never meet your heroes" isn't just a fun phrase. 
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Shiranu on December 04, 2024, 04:46:09 PM
Quote from: Blackleaf on December 04, 2024, 03:43:07 PM"You had an argument on Twitter once. Your argument is invalid."

No; rather he had multiple arguments where he was taking extremely irrational positions while screaming at people who were seemingly not in much disagreement with him, leading me to question if he has gotten better as a content creator since then.

When the very first argument I fast forward to is him talking about others being upset and offended, it's frankly funny knowing his past - much like if I was to start getting offended here it would probably seem quite funny to a fair few as well.

I disagree with a few points that I have heard while skimming but he also seems much calmer now, so as I said - fair play to him for breaking the downward spiral and good for him. Nothing more, nothing less - it's a free world, we can civilly disagree and it's good to see him do that.
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Susan on January 27, 2025, 11:29:11 PM
Quote from: Blackleaf on December 04, 2024, 03:51:47 PMHere's a segment of the video, since I'm sure no one actually watched it.


I can't believe they'd turn Sarah Conner into a girl boss like that. Ripley suddenly becomes more competent and powerful than than the marines, without ANY training? They turned her into a Mary Sue. What a way to shit on the legacy of the original movies. [/sarc]

This sounds exactly like the Critical Drinker and his kind.

It took me a while (since I first saw your opening post), but I ACTUALLY WATCHED the entire 55-minute video...laboriously so but I did. So you have at least 1 person who took your video suggestion "seriously", so as to say. I think it could have been shorter and/or more eloquent (and I say that even as someone who liked the video and agreed with 90% of what he said)...lol

I will next watch the "segment" (although I'm pretty sure what "section" of the video he/they chopped off)...and hope it's not too long as well.

EDIT: It's just 6 minutes long...good. I can probably watch it today!
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Mr.Obvious on January 28, 2025, 01:20:03 AM
Been watching more of darkmatter2525 lately, thanks for reminding me of him.
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Susan on April 22, 2025, 04:25:32 PM
Quote from: Susan on January 27, 2025, 11:29:11 PMIt's just 6 minutes long...good. I can probably watch it today!

It turns out I forgot and only watched it now, almost 3 months later...lmao (but I remember quite well the context of this "segment").

And it summarizes the "main" point of that entire video (or video-essay?) perfectly.
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Susan on April 22, 2025, 04:39:04 PM
But...I think I have something more interesting to say, to the point of double-posting needlessly.

I have watched the very recent "Snow White" live-action remake/reimagining from Disney, and you know, I enjoyed it-- quite a bit, actually.

But under Trump 2.0, will it "forcibly" be the last "woke" mainstream movie to hit theaters? Or at least the last "woke" movie from Disney? Y'know, with all the "anti-woke" Project 2025 obsessively seeking to destroy everything that has even 1% or less of "leftist" or "communist" elements on it, even in pop culture itself.

So, what do you guys think?
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Unbeliever on April 22, 2025, 05:06:22 PM
I'm woke, time for my nap. 🥱
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Susan on April 23, 2025, 10:26:49 AM
Quote from: Unbeliever on April 22, 2025, 05:06:22 PMI'm woke, time for my nap. 🥱

If you have nothing useful to contribute to the topic/thread, then why do you even bother posting?
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Unbeliever on April 23, 2025, 10:36:16 AM
Because it's fun.
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Susan on April 23, 2025, 12:45:05 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on April 23, 2025, 10:36:16 AMBecause it's fun.

No, it's likely because you are a troll/dumbfuck/retard/asshole/scumbag (probably all at once, if you ask me 🙂).
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Unbeliever on April 23, 2025, 01:05:52 PM
Well, I didn't ask you, but you're welcome to your opinion.
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Mr.Obvious on April 23, 2025, 01:28:08 PM
I haven't seen it. Sure i will at some point.
The gf is a big disney fan.
One day when it shows on television, she'll probably catch it.
I'm not boycotting this flick on the get go. I just am tired of all these modern remakes.

I mean, take the aladin remake. It was... fine... but it didn't need to exist, at all. It was not nearly as charming as the original.
Jungle book? Same.
Lion king? Definitely.

At least malificent and cruella took an interesting take, trying to reform villains into anti-heroes.
And i didn't like those movies all that much either. Do remember having a thing for the actress who played cruella though.
Title: Re: Anti-Woke Hypocrisy
Post by: Susan on April 30, 2025, 10:53:08 PM
Quote from: Unbeliever on April 23, 2025, 01:05:52 PMWell, I didn't ask you, but you're welcome to your opinion.

Thanks!