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Title: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: jorgammon on July 28, 2023, 11:30:25 AM

When you get a bunch of mice together in a large cage and give them all the food, shelter, water, cleanliness etc. they could ever want, but never allow them to leave or give them more space, their population grows until a couple astounding things happen.

Male mice, rejected by mouse society, form gangs that fight for acceptance, fail, and withdraw.

Homosexuality, or rather, hypersexuality, becomes rampant.

A small subset of the population, called the "beautiful ones", withdraw into contemplative isolation, doing nothing but groom themselves, eat, and sleep.

Female mice wound their children and have lower and lower birthrates until the population dies out.

Going over all of these bullet points, it's obvious that these mass hysterias amongst mice are nothing more than the liberal platform, word for word.

Male mice gangs <-> Rising urban crime

Mouse hypersexuality <-> LGBT "Pride"

The "beautiful ones" <-> Urbane "intellectualism", which always finds ways to justify degeneracy and treason

Female mice having no children <-> Feminism

Liberalism is nothing more than an attempt to normalize and spread mental illness.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 28, 2023, 12:09:41 PM
Does the forum need to renew the idiot-proofing?
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: jorgammon on July 28, 2023, 12:13:58 PM
What here did I say was wrong? Is insulting liberal sacred cows enough to be "wrong"?
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: the_antithesis on July 28, 2023, 01:06:59 PM
I'm not reading any of that.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: jorgammon on July 28, 2023, 01:48:10 PM
Quote from: the_antithesis on July 28, 2023, 01:06:59 PMI'm not reading any of that.

I'll simplify it for stupid people: liberalism is nothing more than a mass hysteria that mirrors what happens when mice are packed together and allowed to do whatever they want.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 28, 2023, 08:19:45 PM
Quote from: jorgammon on July 28, 2023, 12:13:58 PMWhat here did I say was wrong? Is insulting liberal sacred cows enough to be "wrong"?
I wasn't addressing you, jackass.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: jorgammon on July 28, 2023, 10:02:15 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 28, 2023, 08:19:45 PMI wasn't addressing you, jackass.

I put out an argument and all you have are these petty redneck insults.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Dark Lightning on July 28, 2023, 10:23:31 PM
That's some pretty ignorant shit in the first post. One might educate oneself better before revealing such stark ignorance for the world to see.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: jorgammon on July 28, 2023, 10:33:16 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on July 28, 2023, 10:23:31 PMThat's some pretty ignorant shit in the first post. One might educate oneself better before revealing such stark ignorance for the world to see.

Okay. So what's so ignorant about what I posted? What is your counterargument to the (to me) obvious correspondence between mouse behavior under conditions of prolonged overcrowding and liberalism? And no, moral outrage isn't an argument, we aren't Christians here.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Dark Lightning on July 28, 2023, 11:08:55 PM
Quote from: jorgammon on July 28, 2023, 10:33:16 PMOkay. So what's so ignorant about what I posted? What is your counterargument to the (to me) obvious correspondence between mouse behavior under conditions of prolonged overcrowding and liberalism? And no, moral outrage isn't an argument, we aren't Christians here.

Explain to me how the mice are experiencing "liberalism". Do you really think they experience it? Mice in a crowded cage are not equal to humans experiencing "liberalism". What is your definition of "liberalism", btw?
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Shiranu on July 28, 2023, 11:34:58 PM
"Apples are red, therefor the sky is made of air."

Your... premise?... and your conclusion don't seem to have much to do with each other.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: jorgammon on July 28, 2023, 11:49:21 PM
Either you're playing dumb hoping other people won't understand me, or you really are fucking dense.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: the_antithesis on July 28, 2023, 11:50:13 PM
Quote from: jorgammon on July 28, 2023, 01:48:10 PMI'll simplify it for stupid people: liberalism is nothing more than a mass hysteria that mirrors what happens when mice are packed together and allowed to do whatever they want.

You did that wrong. Here. I'll simplifying for you.

"I am a bigoted asshole with the personality of a wet paper towel. Also, you shouldn't read any of this shit I write."
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: jorgammon on July 28, 2023, 11:51:09 PM
Quote from: the_antithesis on July 28, 2023, 11:50:13 PMYou did that wrong. Here. I'll simplifying for you.

"I am a bigoted asshole with the personality of a wet paper towel. Also, you shouldn't read any of this shit I write."

Here comes the moral outrage trying to substitute for argumentation.

Bolshevism really is Christianity's bastard child.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: the_antithesis on July 28, 2023, 11:59:04 PM
There is no arguing with a bigot.

Maybe if you just stopped hating people.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: jorgammon on July 29, 2023, 12:05:14 AM
Quote from: the_antithesis on July 28, 2023, 11:59:04 PMThere is no arguing with a bigot.

Maybe if you just stopped hating people.

"Bigot". "Hate". You use these words as if they mean anything significant to anybody other than children.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Shiranu on July 29, 2023, 12:08:23 AM
Quote from: jorgammon on July 28, 2023, 11:49:21 PMEither you're playing dumb hoping other people won't understand me, or you really are fucking dense.

Oh, I understood you - and judging by the reactions, everyone else did to. Understanding doesn't mean agreement or that it is logical.

It seems your the one who doesn't actually understand what he is arguing, as again... your argument had zero relation to your conclusion.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: the_antithesis on July 29, 2023, 12:09:33 AM
Oh, mercy. A limp-wristed attempt at insults. What will they think of next?

Look, we get it, man. You hate gay people, especially trans people. Don't even bother with the video about the mice. You don't need it. You could probably find plenty of justification for your hate in "Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star." Just own up to it, you wimp.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: jorgammon on July 29, 2023, 12:10:09 AM
I understand perfectly well what I'm arguing, that all the things that liberalism champions as being "good" or "protected" are merely symptoms of social decay, just as they are among mice. I tried to make it clear. And judging by all the responses along the lines of "Don't read this person's writing!" I think you understood me perfectly and are trying to keep others from understanding.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Shiranu on July 29, 2023, 12:11:15 AM
Where did I ever advocate for your post not to be read?
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: jorgammon on July 29, 2023, 12:11:41 AM
Quote from: the_antithesis on July 29, 2023, 12:09:33 AMOh, mercy. A limp-wristed attempt at insults. What will they think of next?

Look, we get it, man. You hate gay people, especially trans people. Don't even bother with the video about the mice. You don't need it. You could probably find plenty of justification for your hate in "Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star." Just own up to it, you wimp.

More like I'm sick to death of liberal sanctimoniousness and am happy to see a clear demonstration that they have no moral high ground whatsoever, that all their sacred cows are in fact piles of dung.

"WE'RE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY!!" No, you're just mentally ill.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Shiranu on July 29, 2023, 12:12:10 AM
Quote from: jorgammon on July 29, 2023, 12:11:41 AMMore like I'm sick to death of liberal sanctimoniousness and am happy to see a clear demonstration that they have no moral high ground whatsoever, that all their sacred cows are in fact piles of dung.
So what made you think Atheistforums.com was the place to come and start yelling at people?
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: the_antithesis on July 29, 2023, 12:19:51 AM
Liberal and conservative are waaaay too broad to tar any person with either.

That said, you need remember where that comes from. You see, conservative tend to not like people for various arbitrary reasons. Like, they're gay or they're trans or they're black or they're women and so on. Then conservatives try to take away these people's rights and stuff. All because they think certain kinds of people shouldn't exist and it just makes them crazy to know they still breathe air.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 29, 2023, 08:14:48 AM
Quote from: jorgammon on July 28, 2023, 10:02:15 PMI put out an argument and all you have are these petty redneck insults.
While you insult the entire forum with your dick-sucking of your God. Whose worse, assbag?
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: jorgammon on July 29, 2023, 11:20:57 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 29, 2023, 08:14:48 AMWhile you insult the entire forum with your dick-sucking of your God. Whose worse, assbag?

Oh my god this is so homophobic, you're such a bigot. /s

And no, I'm not a Christian, I just insulted you for being as self-righteous as the average Christcuck.

Quote from: the_antithesis on July 29, 2023, 12:19:51 AMLiberal and conservative are waaaay too broad to tar any person with either.

That said, you need remember where that comes from. You see, conservative tend to not like people for various arbitrary reasons. Like, they're gay or they're trans or they're black or they're women and so on. Then conservatives try to take away these people's rights and stuff. All because they think certain kinds of people shouldn't exist and it just makes them crazy to know they still breathe air.

You're pretending that these classifications are more complicated than they are. The "pride" movement, urban "intellectuals", and the urban lumpenproletariat all sleep in the same political bed. Whatever term you would use for that, go ahead and use.

Kind of reminds me of how leftists on Twitter would always obfuscate and pretend not to understand you whenever you start calling them whatever name they were using. First they call themselves "woke", then when conservatives start attacking the "woke", suddenly you don't use that term anymore and only old people use that term. You dissolve and reform like jelly whenever attacked.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 29, 2023, 11:24:08 AM
Pedophilia is not homosexuality, cretin.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: jorgammon on July 29, 2023, 11:29:57 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 29, 2023, 11:24:08 AMPedophilia is not homosexuality, cretin.

Ummm.... what?
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 29, 2023, 12:00:00 PM
You might want to read  your posts.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: the_antithesis on July 29, 2023, 12:01:12 PM
I'm sorry, but your feelings aren't valid.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: jorgammon on July 29, 2023, 12:03:14 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 29, 2023, 12:00:00 PMYou might want to read  your posts.

Yeah I just read my posts. The question remains, what the fuck?

You people are fucking schizos.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: the_antithesis on July 29, 2023, 12:23:01 PM
Quote from: jorgammon on July 29, 2023, 12:03:14 PMYeah I just read my posts. The question remains, what the fuck?

You people are fucking schizos.

I'm sorry, but your feelings aren't valid.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 29, 2023, 12:42:20 PM
Quote from: jorgammon on July 29, 2023, 12:03:14 PMYeah I just read my posts. The question remains, what the fuck?

You people are fucking schizos.
And you're a troll.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Shiranu on July 29, 2023, 12:47:07 PM
How exactly did you expect people to react when you just go into a random community and start preaching your ideology?
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 29, 2023, 02:10:51 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on July 29, 2023, 12:47:07 PMHow exactly did you expect people to react when you just go into a random community and start preaching your ideology?
He expects us to act as badly as he does.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: jorgammon on July 29, 2023, 05:18:14 PM
Quote from: the_antithesis on July 29, 2023, 12:23:01 PMI'm sorry, but your feelings aren't valid.

You limp-wristed liberal types are the ones who worry about feelings and validity and other stupid bullshit.

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 29, 2023, 12:42:20 PMAnd you're a troll.

And you're a weak little bitch who can't come up with a counter argument to anything other than to circle the wagons.

Quote from: Shiranu on July 29, 2023, 12:47:07 PMHow exactly did you expect people to react when you just go into a random community and start preaching your ideology?

There's no ideology here. I'm just posting an obvious observation, one that apparently isn't obvious enough for you to understand.

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 29, 2023, 02:10:51 PMHe expects us to act as badly as he does.

If anything, you're acting worse than I am. And not in a "moral" way but in a cognitive one. I don't want to toot my own horn, but I'm here posting with some thought while you're posting like 14 year olds who flunked out of 5th grade.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 29, 2023, 05:32:50 PM
You have no rational points to argue against. Send your mongrel over to cover for you while you get your thumb out of your ass and find a pistol to help you on your way to the last disappointment.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: the_antithesis on July 29, 2023, 07:45:01 PM
Quote from: jorgammon on July 29, 2023, 05:18:14 PMYou limp-wristed liberal types are the ones who worry about feelings and validity and other stupid bullshit.


Gosh, you're an angwy widdle boy, Chloe.

I guess angwy isn't a feewing.


...

In any case, it's invalid. You're not allowed to feel this way anymore. Stop it.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 29, 2023, 07:47:38 PM
Quote from: jorgammon on July 29, 2023, 05:18:14 PM, but I'm here posting with some thought while you're posting like 14 year olds who flunked out of 5th grade.

I have a Masters from Purdue. You have a rectum under your nose.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: aitm on July 30, 2023, 08:15:19 AM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 29, 2023, 07:47:38 PMI have a Masters from Purdue. You have a rectum under your nose.
🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: jorgammon on July 30, 2023, 02:16:15 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 29, 2023, 05:32:50 PMYou have no rational points to argue against. Send your mongrel over to cover for you while you get your thumb out of your ass and find a pistol to help you on your way to the last disappointment.

What would be the last disappointment? Not having a chance to shoot you?

Quote from: the_antithesis on July 29, 2023, 07:45:01 PMGosh, you're an angwy widdle boy, Chloe.

I guess angwy isn't a feewing.


...

In any case, it's invalid. You're not allowed to feel this way anymore. Stop it.

Faggot.

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 29, 2023, 07:47:38 PMI have a Masters from Purdue. You have a rectum under your nose.

So I'm still ahead of you huh.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 30, 2023, 04:09:01 PM
Your kindergarten degree isn't impressive.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Dark Lightning on July 30, 2023, 04:11:52 PM
Is the OP just a chew-toy, or is that turd going to be picked out of the punch bowl soon?
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: the_antithesis on July 30, 2023, 04:53:01 PM
Quote from: jorgammon on July 30, 2023, 02:16:15 PMFaggot.

You don't take much poking at all, do you?
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: jorgammon on July 30, 2023, 11:31:27 PM
The #1 reason why Christianity is still a thing in spite of all the ridicule directed towards it and all the corruption uncovered over the years is because people can't stand YOU as people, because atheists are so incredibly ineffectual, both individually and as a group. The puerility of this forum and your infantile retorts have only cemented this.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: the_antithesis on July 31, 2023, 12:19:44 AM
You came here and shat on our lawn and then call us puerile?

Eat a whole box of dickburgers.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 31, 2023, 06:03:15 AM
Quote from: jorgammon on July 30, 2023, 11:31:27 PMThe #1 reason why Christianity is still a thing in spite of all the ridicule directed towards it and all the corruption uncovered over the years is because people can't stand YOU as people, because atheists are so incredibly ineffectual, both individually and as a group. The puerility of this forum and your infantile retorts have only cemented this.
You have imaginary friends and call US infantile?
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: jorgammon on July 31, 2023, 11:05:42 AM
I guess the APA is imaginary. (https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fa0025882) NOBODY likes or trusts atheists, and this narcissism on your part shows why.

Again, I'm not a Christian in the least, Christianity is the most cucked religion. But I'm also not a soyboy bolshevist like you retards seem to be.

But yeah, if anybody's hit a nerve, it's me. I post a very basic connection between crazy mice and leftists, and suddenly you spend all your forum posting time attacking me. It's almost like it's the truth, and telling the truth hurts leftists, because they conspire like rats to spread lies.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: the_antithesis on July 31, 2023, 11:14:54 AM
You're talking about religious fuckheads, fuckhead. Most of them have never even met an atheist, but they've heard about them, which is bullshit their preacher pulled completely out of their ass.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: jorgammon on July 31, 2023, 11:28:07 AM
Quote from: the_antithesis on July 31, 2023, 11:14:54 AMYou're talking about religious fuckheads, fuckhead. Most of them have never even met an atheist, but they've heard about them, which is bullshit their preacher pulled completely out of their ass.

Oh wow he called me a fuckhead.

And if you read deeper into the paper they actually say that ATHEISTS trust other atheists less. Not every atheist is interested in larping as an Antifa terror cell.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: the_antithesis on July 31, 2023, 11:44:39 AM
I notice you've pivoted away from you transphobia. That's smarter. I don't know why you haven't been banned yet for hate speech, but here we are.

If you hate us so much, go away. You are just this week's asshole who's shitting on our lawn. Posting your hateful prejudices because you think someone will think it's really intelligent, but it's not. It's the kind of shit a dumbass fourteen-year-old would come up with because puberty also matures the brain as well as the winkie which is why teenagers are the worst people ever. There'll be another one next week and we will not be able to tell the difference.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: jorgammon on July 31, 2023, 12:09:19 PM
Eh, I've only "pivoted away from transphobia" to attack you.

I don't fucking know why you're so defensive of "transphobia" or other nonsense anyway other than some kind of obsession with identifying with the weak, up to the point of justifying and running interference for their subversion and cloak and dagger bullshit.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: aitm on July 31, 2023, 12:58:46 PM
Maybe....just maybe....we think we can be nice. A bit of work for you eh?
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Dark Lightning on July 31, 2023, 01:36:19 PM
He came in talking shit and swinging. I expect little if any change in the MO. Next up will be his complaint about freeze peach.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Mike Cl on July 31, 2023, 01:51:58 PM
This is a maga troll.  Cares nothing about any level of truth or facts.  His only desire is to create chaos and avoids facts or critical thinking.  A discussion about anything is not possible.   
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Shiranu on July 31, 2023, 03:22:29 PM
I had a heat stroke yesterday, otherwise his ass would have been gone.

Fuck this dude - I gave him multiple opportunities to approach staff and forum with respect, to actually discuss his topic instead of throwing punches left, right, and centre at us, and he spat in my face each time.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on July 31, 2023, 04:46:29 PM
Quote from: jorgammon on July 31, 2023, 11:05:42 AMI guess the APA is imaginary. (https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fa0025882) NOBODY likes or trusts atheists, and this narcissism on your part shows why.

Again, I'm not a Christian in the least, Christianity is the most cucked religion. But I'm also not a soyboy bolshevist like you retards seem to be.

But yeah, if anybody's hit a nerve, it's me. I post a very basic connection between crazy mice and leftists, and suddenly you spend all your forum posting time attacking me. It's almost like it's the truth, and telling the truth hurts leftists, because they conspire like rats to spread lies.
You're too impressed with yourself. Cut off your head to improve your cognitive capacity.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Mike Cl on July 31, 2023, 05:57:53 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on July 31, 2023, 03:22:29 PMI had a heat stroke yesterday, otherwise his ass would have been gone.


Heat strokes are no joke!!!  I hope you are fully recovered.
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Shiranu on July 31, 2023, 10:29:01 PM
Quote from: Mike Cl on July 31, 2023, 05:57:53 PMHeat strokes are no joke!!!  I hope you are fully recovered.

Yeah, that was a weird experience. I feel really drained, but that's mostly it. Appreciate it!
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Dark Lightning on July 31, 2023, 11:29:57 PM
Glad you're doing better. I've had the heat stroke experience and it wasn't fun.

BoT, it's good to see the turd gone!
Title: Re: Is liberalism nothing more than the mouse utopia amongs humans?
Post by: Jason Harvestdancer on September 24, 2023, 09:30:24 PM
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on July 28, 2023, 12:09:41 PMDoes the forum need to renew the idiot-proofing?

No, we do need people with different opinions.  Sometimes to make us think, sometimes as chewtoys.

His post was an oversimplification.