http://youtu.be/C9_aK9Ug-yM (http://youtu.be/C9_aK9Ug-yM) :roll: Solitary
I think he should just fly with old blades and pray that they don't break off. :twisted:
Oh for fuck sake. Pay $52 and receive a blessing from the big guy. How much do I have to pay for a facepalm from the big guy?
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To misquote Captain James T. Kirk:
"What does God need with a helicopter?"
You pay $52 and you MAY receive a "mode of transportation" from God. And you may not. Any bets?
And what the HELL is a church doing with a chopper? The "Reverend" can't ride in a stretch Mercedes like all the other "poor" preachers?
Colanth, the preacher "needs" the chopper to swiftly go from church to church on Sundays. My God! He has people waiting impatiently to hear his [s:1j5ba49y]bullshit[/s:1j5ba49y] I mean his words to the people direct from God Almighty. Just imagine. If he took ten extra minutes to get to a church, that would be be ten minutes where the congregation could riot. He's saving life's here. Or even worse yet, the congregation could commit mortal sins while waiting for him, and they would all end up in hell for eternity.
You really have to see this realistically. Fifty-two bucks is a small price to pay to avoid another Jonestown type disaster. :rolleyes:
As a Christian, I agree that this type of behavior is un-Christlike.
Quote from: "PilatesQuestion"As a Christian, I agree that this type of behavior is un-Christlike.
Why? Because he wasn't like this: eventually He became an integral part of Roman Catholic religious dogma.
The Scriptures and many apocryphal works were passed down either by word of mouth or through song, and later in works of art. The symbolism of the Child Jesus in art reached its apex during the Renaissance: the holy family was a central theme in the works of Leonardo Da Vinci and many other masters.
The canonical gospels say nothing of Jesus' childhood between his infancy and the Finding in the Temple at the age of twelve. However, from the 4th century up to the Renaissance many stories were passed down concerning this "secret time" of Jesus' early childhood, where even as a baby Jesus possessed and used his messianic powers to protect his parents during their journey to and from Egypt.
The majority of these stories were derived from apocryphal books, such as the Infancy Gospel of Thomas. As the majority of Christians at the time were illiterate, the stories acquired a dark or morbid feel similar to the Brothers Grimm tales, as concern for approval from the Roman Curia began to wane in the later centuries.
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Saint Joseph and the Child Jesus
A common theme of the medieval stories depicts Jesus as a fearless and carefree child who innocently gets into mischief that inexorably led to his playmates' demise. The most common story is the cloud story. The child Jesus, wanting to play in the clouds, crawled into the sky on a sunbeam, but all of the playmates who followed him soon lost their faith and fell to their deaths.
Another story reveals the tale of a child who dammed the channel that supplied water to pools which Jesus bathed in until a tidal wave swept the boy away and cleared the channel in one pass. This other child is sometimes known as the "Judas Child."
These events naturally made other parents panic and forbid their children to play with him, so when the child Jesus arrived in the town plaza to play the parents quickly hid their children in a large kiln-oven for shelter. The child Jesus, naturally well aware of this, inquired about his playmates' whereabouts and was told all the children had left.
When he asked what the noise coming from the large oven was he was told that pigs were being cooked. Jesus left and when the parents opened the oven doors, they found (according to which version of the story one heard) either uncooked squealing piglets or roasted chops.
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Yes, the stories of Jesus were passed down through a very well-preserved oral tradition, since all first century Jewish males were indoctrinated with that type of training. However, the infancy of Jesus is really irrelevant in the larger story. The Gnostic stories of Jesus' infancy are proven to be forgeries.
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Holy chopper Batman, what the fuuuuuuuuuck?!
1) Whats with the diamond on the top of the church instead of a cross or a steeple?
2) What church needs a helicopter in the first place?
3) I think it is actually against the law EVEN in TEXASS to promise something in exchange for money and not deliver on that promise.
Yeah right "god" will give you the transportation of your choice if you just donate $52 of your hard earned cash.
Quote from: "PilatesQuestion"As a Christian, I agree that this type of behavior is un-Christlike.
Are you kidding? That behavior is exactly "christianlike"! Explotation is what christianity is for cryin' out loud!
Quote from: "PilatesQuestion"Yes, the stories of Jesus were passed down through a very well-preserved oral tradition, since all first century Jewish males were indoctrinated with that type of training. However, the infancy of Jesus is really irrelevant in the larger story. The Gnostic stories of Jesus' infancy are proven to be forgeries.
Hey pal the whole story is a fraud not just the gnostics!
Quote from: "PilatesQuestion"As a Christian, I agree that this type of behavior is un-Christlike.
You'd think an Almighty God might inspire better behavior. Why does He always seem to choose such shitty Earthly representatives? Does he not know how poorly they espouse his word? A truly brave soul might even wonder why he couldn't imbue men with the spirit to resist temptation.
Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"Quote from: "PilatesQuestion"As a Christian, I agree that this type of behavior is un-Christlike.
You'd think an Almighty God might inspire better behavior. Why does He always seem to choose such shitty Earthly representatives? Does he not know how poorly they espouse his word? A truly brave soul might even wonder why he couldn't imbue men with the spirit to resist temptation.
=D>
Quote from: "PilatesQuestion"As a Christian, I agree that this type of behavior is un-Christlike.
It certainly is! He should just float into the sky and then rematerialize on the ground, the way Jesus did. :-D
Quote from: "PilatesQuestion"Yes, the stories of Jesus were passed down through a very well-preserved oral tradition, since all first century Jewish males were indoctrinated with that type of training. However, the infancy of Jesus is really irrelevant in the larger story. The Gnostic stories of Jesus' infancy are proven to be forgeries.
As are the Gospels. In fact, the only "non-lies" are Paul's stories of a sky-godlet who lived in the 7th heaven (name of - wait for it - Yeshua). No human body, no virgin birth, no crucifixion - just a mythological godlet who lived in one of the "shells" that "surround" the "everything" that they thought the world is.
Then some people wrote stories about this sky godlet, copying from each other (Luke even claims to just be an expansion of previous gospels) and, in the 4th century, we get a ruler who needs a way to control the plebs, so he has a religion invented - with himself at the top, of course. (That's what Constantine's Column was all about - Constantine as Apollo/Jesus.)
Christianity is no less total myth than any of the religions it stole from.
Quote from: "LikelyToBreak"If he took ten extra minutes to get to a church, that would be be ten minutes where the congregation could riot. He's saving life's here. Or even worse yet, the congregation could commit mortal sins while waiting for him, and they would all end up in hell for eternity.
And the downside would be? It's worth 50 bucks each (from our viewpoint) to make sure that they DO riot and they DO commit sins and end up in hell (sooner rather than later). Every time one of his congregation goes to meet his (or her) "reward", the intelligence of the species increases quite a bit.
Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"Quote from: "PilatesQuestion"As a Christian, I agree that this type of behavior is un-Christlike.
You'd think an Almighty God might inspire better behavior. Why does He always seem to choose such shitty Earthly representatives? Does he not know how poorly they espouse his word? A truly brave soul might even wonder why he couldn't imbue men with the spirit to resist temptation.
The assumption is that this man is actually a Christian.
Quote from: "Colanth"Quote from: "PilatesQuestion"Yes, the stories of Jesus were passed down through a very well-preserved oral tradition, since all first century Jewish males were indoctrinated with that type of training. However, the infancy of Jesus is really irrelevant in the larger story. The Gnostic stories of Jesus' infancy are proven to be forgeries.
As are the Gospels. In fact, the only "non-lies" are Paul's stories of a sky-godlet who lived in the 7th heaven (name of - wait for it - Yeshua). No human body, no virgin birth, no crucifixion - just a mythological godlet who lived in one of the "shells" that "surround" the "everything" that they thought the world is.
Then some people wrote stories about this sky godlet, copying from each other (Luke even claims to just be an expansion of previous gospels) and, in the 4th century, we get a ruler who needs a way to control the plebs, so he has a religion invented - with himself at the top, of course. (That's what Constantine's Column was all about - Constantine as Apollo/Jesus.)
Christianity is no less total myth than any of the religions it stole from.
Which references in which of Paul's epistles are you referring to?
QuoteThe assumption is that this man is actually a Christian.
Considering how vague the term is, it'd be pretty difficult to go beyond assumption. No two people can agree on who can and cannot be called a Christian.
Quote from: "Johan"Oh for fuck sake. Pay $52 and receive a blessing from the big guy. How much do I have to pay for a facepalm from the big guy?
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Quote from: "PilatesQuestion"Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"Quote from: "PilatesQuestion"As a Christian, I agree that this type of behavior is un-Christlike.
You'd think an Almighty God might inspire better behavior. Why does He always seem to choose such shitty Earthly representatives? Does he not know how poorly they espouse his word? A truly brave soul might even wonder why he couldn't imbue men with the spirit to resist temptation.
The assumption is that this man is actually a Christian.
How can we tell that you're actually a Christian?
Quote from: "PilatesQuestion"Quote from: "Colanth"Quote from: "PilatesQuestion"Yes, the stories of Jesus were passed down through a very well-preserved oral tradition, since all first century Jewish males were indoctrinated with that type of training. However, the infancy of Jesus is really irrelevant in the larger story. The Gnostic stories of Jesus' infancy are proven to be forgeries.
As are the Gospels. In fact, the only "non-lies" are Paul's stories of a sky-godlet who lived in the 7th heaven (name of - wait for it - Yeshua). No human body, no virgin birth, no crucifixion - just a mythological godlet who lived in one of the "shells" that "surround" the "everything" that they thought the world is.
Then some people wrote stories about this sky godlet, copying from each other (Luke even claims to just be an expansion of previous gospels) and, in the 4th century, we get a ruler who needs a way to control the plebs, so he has a religion invented - with himself at the top, of course. (That's what Constantine's Column was all about - Constantine as Apollo/Jesus.)
Christianity is no less total myth than any of the religions it stole from.
Which references in which of Paul's epistles are you referring to?
I'm referring to the assertions about a man named Jesus dying and rising. It's a myth, like the Mithras myth, the Osiris myth, etc., etc., ad almost infinitum. Read the Bible - there are claims that didn't happen, couldn't happen or are otherwise contrary to fact. Those are evidences that the assertions are mythological. (And no "miracle" claim can explain something that's just contrary to fact. Only words like "myth" and "lie" can apply.)