I'm not seeing a case here, what I am seeing is either A: a con man seeing religion as something to make money off, or B: a weak minded and deluded nitwit who fell for cultist beliefs since he was directionless in his life
Allah is not god but a name of a god. Just like Zeus, Thor, Apollo.
God in Arabic is Ilah. Just like in the shahadah.
Allah was a rock idol of the pagan Quraysh tribe.
Muhammad made it the god of the Muslims (Mohammedans).
I'm guessing sweetto only sees it that way since it falls in line with 'my sky daddy is the only real sky daddy'
He is doing dawah (proselytizing), which is a duty for every Muslim.
Recruiting soldiers for Allah.
Thanks to Sweettos post I now believe
that people that post videos without a description are lazy.
Quote from: pr126 on December 24, 2017, 05:22:04 AM
He is doing dawah (proselytizing), which is a duty for every Muslim.
Recruiting soldiers for Allah.
Also Buddhism and Christianity. Hindus want to reclaim former Hindus who are something else (in India). Jews want to reclaim former Jews.
Quote from: sweetto on December 24, 2017, 02:59:36 AM
The best explanation of the question why we need Allah(God) in our life with proofs and facts
If I came into your house and preached atheism you'd have conniptions. I guess you've proved we're better people that you.
Quote from: pr126 on December 24, 2017, 04:29:18 AM
Allah is not god but a name of a god. Just like Zeus, Thor, Apollo.
Allah is in the company of a long list of gods that have been around for much longer than Allah. A list rich in accomplishments, mighty deeds, and ardent worshipers. Their stories tell of vanquishing great armies, and wonderful miracles. Without them we would be just men without purpose fighting amongst ourselves. There would be wars, raping, stealing, lying, and cheating. People would get sick from awful diseases and some would die. Can there be any question of the existence of gods?
Quote from: SGOS on December 24, 2017, 04:08:51 PM
Allah is in the company of a long list of gods that have been around for much longer than Allah. A list rich in accomplishments, mighty deeds, and ardent worshipers. Their stories tell of vanquishing great armies, and wonderful miracles. Without them we would be just men without purpose fighting amongst ourselves. There would be wars, raping, stealing, lying, and cheating. People would get sick from awful diseases and some would die. Can there be any question of the existence of gods?
Polytheism made more sense than monotheism.
Somebody run a sock check for traces of ƵenKlassen.
Simple proof that religion is non-sensical... The religious believers can only tell each other apart but the name of their god and their clothing. Atheists don't care what you wear.
Quote from: Cavebear on December 26, 2017, 05:56:38 AM
Simple proof that religion is non-sensical... The religious believers can only tell each other apart but the name of their god and their clothing. Atheists don't care what you wear.
Same as stupid sports fans. Are you anti-sports? Didn't think so, eh primitive tribalist?
Quote from: Baruch on December 26, 2017, 08:33:36 AM
Same as stupid sports fans. Are you anti-sports? Didn't think so, eh primitive tribalist?
I wear no uniforms. I used to enjoy sports I could play, though. Letterred in Tennis, golf, and track in HS. Played rugby in college. I can't do that now. Not too old or fat, bad knees from weeding the garden. But if you want to try me at air hockey, prepare to lose all your quarters.
Quote from: Cavebear on December 26, 2017, 11:50:19 AM
I wear no uniforms. I used to enjoy sports I could play, though. Letterred in Tennis, golf, and track in HS. Played rugby in college. I can't do that now. Not too old or fat, bad knees from weeding the garden. But if you want to try me at air hockey, prepare to lose all your quarters.
I loved air hockey too. Other sports, not so much.
Quote from: sweetto on December 24, 2017, 02:59:36 AM
The best explanation of the question why we need Allah(God) in our life with proofs and facts
I have no more need of YHWH, Jehovah, Allah, Zeus, Thor or Krishna in my life than I need the Tooth Fairy, Santa, or the Great Pumpkin. Besides, if there
were proof and facts of
any deity, we wouldn't be atheists. Unsurprisingly, you have neither.
Quote from: Baruch on December 26, 2017, 01:10:48 PM
I loved air hockey too. Other sports, not so much.
We should meet sometime.
You are both banned from eggnog and pumpkin lattes. Too much for your cold hearts.
Quote from: Baruch on December 26, 2017, 02:31:13 PM
You are both banned from eggnog and pumpkin lattes. Too much for your cold hearts.
It's funny to be banned from things I alrerady don't like. Real hardship. What to be banned for me next? Coffee, boiled cabbage, and sardines?
Quote from: Cavebear on December 26, 2017, 02:35:21 PM
It's funny to be banned from things I alrerady don't like. Real hardship. What to be banned for me next? Coffee, boiled cabbage, and sardines?
Heretic! You probably drink chamomile tea.
Quote from: Baruch on December 26, 2017, 02:47:46 PM
Heretic! You probably drink chamomile tea.
Green tea, thank you. Every morning (I LIKE the stuff). And organic soy milk with my tofu dinner (kidding) No I'm a veggie-heavy omnivore.
Quote from: Baruch on December 24, 2017, 08:28:04 PM
Polytheism made more sense than monotheism.
Yeah? Tell that to Akhenaten! He started it.
Quote from: Cavebear on December 26, 2017, 02:51:15 PM
Green tea, thank you. Every morning (I LIKE the stuff). And organic soy milk with my tofu dinner (kidding) No I'm a veggie-heavy omnivore.
So you are a soy-boy then? Got boobs yet?
Quote from: Unbeliever on December 26, 2017, 02:54:06 PM
Yeah? Tell that to Akhenaten! He started it.
One of the high points of human experimentation ...
http://www.amarna3d.com
Not a handsome man, but married to the most beautiful of women.
Quote from: Baruch on December 26, 2017, 03:10:28 PM
One of the high points of human experimentation ...
http://www.amarna3d.com
Not a handsome man, but married to the most beautiful of women.
Boobs aren't caused by vegetarianism.
Quote from: Cavebear on February 02, 2018, 03:45:10 PM
Boobs aren't caused by vegetarianism.
English isn't your first language? You are a boob ... though not a girl. Soy makes you into a boob.
Throw him in the booby hatch! ;)
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 02, 2018, 06:27:46 PM
Throw him in the booby hatch! ;)
He can't get pregnant, or hatch anything else ;-0
He can't even hatch a plot!
But he might be able to dance!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYmzdvMoUUA
Well, I guess even blue-footed boobies can't win 'em all! :)
There is a little bird in the jungle. They boy birds line up at mating season, on a branch opposite the girl bird, and take their turns dancing. Very orderly. The boy who dances best, gets the girl. On average, it takes 5 or more mating seasons before a boy bird is good enough.
Sage grouse do the same thing on the Great Plains. They all get around in a circle, at a dancing location that they use every year. A boy goes to the middle and dances, then exits. If he dances good, one of the girls follow him.
Quote from: Baruch on February 02, 2018, 07:04:30 PM
There is a little bird in the jungle. They boy birds line up at mating season, on a branch opposite the girl bird, and take their turns dancing. Very orderly. The boy who dances best, gets the girl. On average, it takes 5 or more mating seasons before a boy bird is good enough.
Sage grouse do the same thing on the Great Plains. They all get around in a circle, at a dancing location that they use every year. A boy goes to the middle and dances, then exits. If he dances good, one of the girls follow him.
That's the ticket. Lets get rid of this intellectual bullshit, like the need for having common interests and taking time to actually get to know each other.
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 02, 2018, 06:37:34 PM
He can't even hatch a plot!
I can TOO hatch a plot. A plot of what though... Ah, a plot of beans. Italian flat ones. Best kind.
Quote from: SGOS on February 03, 2018, 08:40:36 AM
That's the ticket. Lets get rid of this intellectual bullshit, like the need for having common interests and taking time to actually get to know each other.
That happened only in small New England towns, where people not only where all White, but came from the same part of England (they hate their neighbors there too). They also all went to the same church. We do have common interests ... we are criminals, trying to rip each other off. A failed feral species that is going to take the whole planet with it, in its necessary demise.
The Borg have common interests .. per the Borg Queen ... got The Resistance, are you With Her?
Quote from: Baruch on February 07, 2018, 06:50:51 AM
That happened only in small New England towns, where people not only where all White, but came from the same part of England (they hate their neighbors there too). They also all went to the same church. We do have common interests ... we are criminals, trying to rip each other off. A failed feral species that is going to take the whole planet with it, in its necessary demise.
The Borg have common interests .. per the Borg Queen ... got The Resistance, are you With Her?
The Salem witch trials were caused by a slave woman who excited young white girls to hysteria.
We are not a "failed feral species" or we would all be dead by now.
We are not all "criminals, trying to rip each other off", though some are. That's why we have courts.
We are not Borg. That's why the idea of beings like them frighten us.
I will admit that the above rant was misplaced in this thread. But it does apply to the OP.
Quote from: Baruch on February 07, 2018, 07:00:33 AM
I will admit that the above rant was misplaced in this thread. But it does apply to the OP.
Admission accepted. We all go off-topic sometimes.
Quote from: Cavebear on February 07, 2018, 05:44:32 AM
I can TOO hatch a plot. A plot of what though... Ah, a plot of beans. Italian flat ones. Best kind.
But...but...don't flat beans cause flatulence!?
Quote from: Unbeliever on February 07, 2018, 01:20:57 PM
But...but...don't flat beans cause flatulence!?
Ah, that's the plot... Its not the Beans, it is the Beings.
To eat the beans yet not fart
One has to first partake of the thought of words,
Denying the fart , accepting the bean,
Or Beings as it were,
Dreaming through the night unaware
Of the gases which,
Though they slip out, are unnoticed then
In The Night (though sniffed upon at Morrow)
And all May Quibble at the Cause
And freely ill the intent suppose
It was not me so much
As your more sensitive nose...