We had the local elections yesterday. ErdoÄŸan lost the capital (Final) and Istanbul (dispute?!) according to the Electoral Council, but they demanded a recount for 27 K difference so no official result. But the Council already declared Ä°stanbul lost for them. They tried everything in the book and then some, still trying. It's gonna get ugly in any way.
Erdogan Appears to Suffer Major Defeats in Turkey’s Two Biggest Cities
QuoteISTANBUL â€" President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s party on Sunday was facing defeat in local elections in the Turkish capital, Ankara, and possibly even Istanbul, its largest city, a result that shook the nation as Mr. Erdogan suffered the first major electoral setback of his decade and a half in power.
The municipal balloting around the country came nine months after national elections that extended Mr. Erdogan’s hold on power. It was closely watched as a barometer of his standing with voters after Turkey’s economy fell into recession and he assumed sweeping new executive powers.
Mr. Erdogan claimed victory over all in the elections, pointing to results that showed his Justice and Development Party 15 points ahead of the opposition Republican People’s Party in districts nationwide.
But for the first time in his political career, Mr. Erdogan was tasting defeat in mayoral races in the center of Turkish political power, Ankara, and maybe even in his hometown, Istanbul, the country’s business center. ...
For the first time in the history of the Republic, Turkish Communist Party won a city in the East all by themselves. Yeah, seriously. LOL I am gobsmacked.
There is also a fight for another biggish city, Bursa. It's ugly. I barely slept. They stopped the data the moment they got they lost. It's comical.
There is a map here. http://secim.ntv.com.tr/ There must be 2 more red. One is Ä°stanbul. The other is, possibly Bursa. Red is the Social Democrats, orange is Erdogan's party. Purple is the Kurdish Party, blue is the nationalist party.
This is the map 5 years ago. http://www.yenihaberden.com/d/other/turkiye_1-jpg20140331170658-001.jpg
Erdogan is allied with Iran, and therefore also Russia. Turkish communism should make great gains then. I would say, things will get interesting, when it is discovered that Prophet Muhammad invented communism, not Karl Marx ;-0
Erdogan is allied with whoever is profitable,lol.
Turkish communist party has nothing to do with him or Russia today. It was founded on 1920. Banned, got back...etc.
Also, the alternative fact of the day; I invented Communism. Ahahah.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on April 01, 2019, 08:29:46 AM
Erdogan is allied with whoever is profitable,lol.
Turkish communist party has nothing to do with him or Russia today. It was founded on 1920. Banned, got back...etc.
Also, the alternative fact of the day; I invented Communism. Ahahah.
No, you invented post-cat-ism (like post-modernism, but more furry).
As any antisemite would tell you, per the Book of Acts, the Jewish Christians invented communism. That was a very damaging conspiracy theory, not so long ago ;-(
Quote from: Baruch on April 01, 2019, 12:29:06 PM
No, you invented post-cat-ism (like post-modernism, but more furry).
As any antisemite would tell you, per the Book of Acts, the Jewish Christians invented communism. That was a very damaging conspiracy theory, not so long ago ;-(
Nope, someone else invented Catism.
https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/7z0pc8/the_true_religion_catism/
But noone invented Communism. We stole it from ants!
The Queen ant of Britain ... is not amused!
Quote from: drunkenshoe on April 01, 2019, 04:17:30 AM
We had the local elections yesterday. ErdoÄŸan lost the capital (Final) and Istanbul (dispute?!) according to the Electoral Council, but they demanded a recount for 27 K difference so no official result. But the Council already declared Ä°stanbul lost for them. They tried everything in the book and then some, still trying. It's gonna get ugly in any way.
Erdogan Appears to Suffer Major Defeats in Turkey’s Two Biggest Cities
For the first time in the history of the Republic, Turkish Communist Party won a city in the East all by themselves. Yeah, seriously. LOL I am gobsmacked.
There is also a fight for another biggish city, Bursa. It's ugly. I barely slept. They stopped the data the moment they got they lost. It's comical.
There is a map here. http://secim.ntv.com.tr/ There must be 2 more red. One is Ä°stanbul. The other is, possibly Bursa. Red is the Social Democrats, orange is Erdogan's party. Purple is the Kurdish Party, blue is the nationalist party.
This is the map 5 years ago. http://www.yenihaberden.com/d/other/turkiye_1-jpg20140331170658-001.jpg
I didn't realize you were Turkish. Likely origin of human advancement. As an American sort of being here a few centuries, my admiration to such an old culture...
You guys probably have no idea what is going on over here and it can go fubar as usual...but today... meanwhile in Turkey:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3ornk0jilFO4vTpUGI/giphy.gif)
Quote from: drunkenshoe on April 17, 2019, 02:17:20 PM
You guys probably have no idea what is going on over here and it can go fubar as usual...but today... meanwhile in Turkey:
Isn't Erdogan asking for new elections in Istanbul?
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on April 17, 2019, 03:13:35 PM
Isn't Erdogan asking for new elections in Istanbul?
Well, finally the Supreme Election Council Refused the opposition and have given the mandate to our party in Ä°stanbul. That makes all major cities officially ours. They won't stop in any way. It's just hope.
I feel good and getting wasted shit faced. Ignore me, if I check in any capacity.
Oh by the way, Ä°stanbul passed to us the first time in 25 years. So yeah....they won't let it go.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on April 17, 2019, 04:44:31 PM
Well, finally the Supreme Election Council Refused the opposition and have given the mandate to our party in Ä°stanbul. That makes all major cities officially ours. They won't stop in any way. It's just hope.
I feel good and getting wasted shit faced. Ignore me, if I check in any capacity.
The news here is saying the courts gave the mandate to the opposition so the new mayors are taking over, but that the challenge/request to hold new elections is still pending. Doesn't Erdogan own the courts?
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on April 17, 2019, 05:23:15 PM
The news here is saying the courts gave the mandate to the opposition so the new mayors are taking over, but that the challenge/request to hold new elections is still pending. Doesn't Erdogan own the courts?
LOL the opposition is us. I was writing from our point of view. He owns everything. The fight begins.
Per EU rules, you resubmit for referendum or election, as many times as necessary, to get the result you want. PM May will be consulting.
What are you talking about, Baruch?
Sorry, that I ask this this day and now. What's wrong, Baruch? Because something is fucking wrong. What happened to you?
That's courtesy by the way. I'll drag it from you in one way or another. :)
Quote from: drunkenshoe on April 17, 2019, 08:20:07 PM
What are you talking about, Baruch?
The corruption of objective voting, but repeated bullying of the electorate. By Europeans in their countries. So therefore the Turks aren't uncivilized, by doing the same damn thing. That is all I was saying. I am surprised that much isn't clear to you, because you follow all "this" much more than I do.
Also having repetitive votes on the same candidates/issues means that corrupting the vote itself ... has more opportunity to be done.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on April 17, 2019, 09:05:04 PM
Sorry, that I ask this this day and now. What's wrong, Baruch? Because something is fucking wrong. What happened to you?
That's courtesy by the way. I'll drag it from you in one way or another. :)
Stuff is goin' down for me. Hope things are goin' up for you. Maybe tell you next week, if anyone on Earth is still alive.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on April 17, 2019, 05:50:05 PM
LOL the opposition is us. I was writing from our point of view. He owns everything. The fight begins.
I understood the opposition and us part. I'm just trying to figure out what his chances are of getting and stealing a new election. I know he has gotten rid of thousands of judges since 16. I just don't know if he was able to replace them with his own people.
Quote from: Baruch on April 17, 2019, 09:29:42 PM
Stuff is goin' down for me. Hope things are goin' up for you. Maybe tell you next week, if anyone on Earth is still alive.
Well that sounds ominous. Hang in there Baruch.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on April 17, 2019, 08:20:07 PM
What are you talking about, Baruch?
Nonsense, as usual.
Quote from: Baruch on April 17, 2019, 09:29:42 PM
Stuff is goin' down for me. Hope things are goin' up for you. Maybe tell you next week, if anyone on Earth is still alive.
LOL I was serious. You seem off.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on April 18, 2019, 06:50:00 AM
I understood the opposition and us part. I'm just trying to figure out what his chances are of getting and stealing a new election. I know he has gotten rid of thousands of judges since 16. I just don't know if he was able to replace them with his own people.
Honestly, I don't know. It's so dirty. They won't stop objecting. They get denied and so object to the higher office.
They can replace everyone quickly, they do not need people who are capable of doing their job. They need people to take orders.
Quote from: Baruch on April 17, 2019, 09:29:42 PM
Stuff is goin' down for me. Hope things are goin' up for you. Maybe tell you next week, if anyone on Earth is still alive.
Personal shit, or worries about the Yellowstone Supervolcano? We are here for you either way...
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on April 18, 2019, 06:50:00 AM
I understood the opposition and us part. I'm just trying to figure out what his chances are of getting and stealing a new election. I know he has gotten rid of thousands of judges since 16. I just don't know if he was able to replace them with his own people.
All dictators are mad. Their low mental health scores interfere with successful strategy and implementation. The eyes spinning in their eye sockets make them dissy.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on April 18, 2019, 09:03:45 AM
LOL I was serious. You seem off.
You should be a counselor. You are very sensitive antenna, given the chaos generation machine I use for posting.
If it was public stuff, no problem sharing. I do that every day. This time it is personal ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ_7br_3y54
Somebody insulted my mule.
Pharaoh wants me to build bricks without straw. Pharaoh won't let my people go. I am having to go all Biblical on some folks (no violence of course).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahkwQhQZWG8
Spoke truth to power ...
OK. Don't obsess over the things you can't change/affect. Hang in there.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on April 18, 2019, 03:03:51 PM
OK. Don't obsess over the things you can't change/affect. Hang in there.
I don't. An irresistible force met an immovable object (me). I compromised 99%, but they wanted 100% or nothing. So I am giving them nothing.
Quote from: Baruch on April 18, 2019, 10:21:01 AM
All dictators are mad. Their low mental health scores interfere with successful strategy and implementation. The eyes spinning in their eye sockets make them dissy.
Like Trump?", Tom said playfully, as he lost another trick"...
Quote from: Cavebear on April 18, 2019, 04:25:28 PM
Like Trump?", Tom said playfully, as he lost another trick"...
Mad or crazy? Maybe both vis-a-vis Trump. Gotta love the American political system (not).
Quote from: Baruch on April 18, 2019, 05:27:54 PM
Mad or crazy? Maybe both vis-a-vis Trump. Gotta love the American political system (not).
Never saw a "Tom Swifty"?
Quote from: Baruch on April 17, 2019, 09:29:42 PM
Stuff is goin' down for me. Hope things are goin' up for you. Maybe tell you next week, if anyone on Earth is still alive.
so that "meteor" is not going to miss eh?
Quote from: aitm on April 18, 2019, 08:34:34 PM
so that "meteor" is not going to miss eh?
Nope. When your time is up, it is up.
They are up to something. They will try anything for a do over.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on May 05, 2019, 09:18:09 AM
They are up to something. They will try anything for a do over.
That is the standard in all so called democracies now. If a do-over is necessary, then just not allow voting in the first place.
Istanbul elections are canceled to be repeated. This is not gonna end well for anyone.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on May 06, 2019, 01:00:09 PM
Istanbul elections are canceled to be repeated. This is not gonna end well for anyone.
Everyone wants to be Dr Evil …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY3DrA7tJFk