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Title: Stephen Colbert on the election
Post by: Mr.Obvious on November 09, 2016, 06:00:57 PM
https://youtu.be/yXhFGO8R7aU

QuoteIn the face of something that might strike you as horrible: I think laughter is the best medicine. You cannot laugh and be afraid at the same time.
- Stephen Colbert, 2016
Title: Re: Stephen Colbert on the election
Post by: Unbeliever on November 09, 2016, 06:04:48 PM
Both sides are terrified of the other side - America, a nation of scared rabbits.

We've come a long way, baby!


(http://www.scaryforkids.com/pics/rabbit-stew.jpg)
Title: Re: Stephen Colbert on the election
Post by: Shiranu on November 09, 2016, 07:55:03 PM
My biggest problem with this, and I loved the speech when I watched it this morning... where do you draw the line? Is open support of homophobia, xenophobia, unbelievable levels of sexism not all issues that we should be vocal about? Now that the elections over, we should just pretend that over 1/6th of America actively voted in favour of this behavour, or that 4/6th's silently allowed it to be represented at the highest level of our government?

Is silence not what has allowed this bigotry to fester and grow? Was silence and "putting it behind us" what got women the right to vote, the right to work... blacks the right to drink from the same fountain as a white man or walk through the same door? Did "letting it go" bring about the LGBTQ+ rights, the right for the community to love the people they love and to be politically represented?

When did just "put an atrocity behind us." fix anything?
Title: Re: Stephen Colbert on the election
Post by: Baruch on November 09, 2016, 08:03:07 PM
Quote from: Shiranu on November 09, 2016, 07:55:03 PM
My biggest problem with this, and I loved the speech when I watched it this morning... where do you draw the line? Is open support of homophobia, xenophobia, unbelievable levels of sexism not all issues that we should be vocal about? Now that the elections over, we should just pretend that over 1/6th of America actively voted in favour of this behavour, or that 4/6th's silently allowed it to be represented at the highest level of our government?

Is silence not what has allowed this bigotry to fester and grow? Was silence and "putting it behind us" what got women the right to vote, the right to work... blacks the right to drink from the same fountain as a white man or walk through the same door? Did "letting it go" bring about the LGBTQ+ rights, the right for the community to love the people they love and to be politically represented?

When did just "put an atrocity behind us." fix anything?

Tyranny of the lumpen proletariat sucks if you aren't in the majority.  Unfortunately misfits and malcontents will be tugging at the leash ... forever.  Still better than rule by a feral minority (oops! ... plutocrats ... so we aren't free of that either).  Best of both worlds.
Title: Re: Stephen Colbert on the election
Post by: Cavebear on November 11, 2016, 03:53:54 AM
Quote from: Shiranu on November 09, 2016, 07:55:03 PM
My biggest problem with this, and I loved the speech when I watched it this morning... where do you draw the line? Is open support of homophobia, xenophobia, unbelievable levels of sexism not all issues that we should be vocal about? Now that the elections over, we should just pretend that over 1/6th of America actively voted in favour of this behavour, or that 4/6th's silently allowed it to be represented at the highest level of our government?

Is silence not what has allowed this bigotry to fester and grow? Was silence and "putting it behind us" what got women the right to vote, the right to work... blacks the right to drink from the same fountain as a white man or walk through the same door? Did "letting it go" bring about the LGBTQ+ rights, the right for the community to love the people they love and to be politically represented?

When did just "put an atrocity behind us." fix anything?

I read and hear.  Your concerns are valid.  Things have to change.  But Trump is not the source of good changes.