The human animal will evolve into a more advanced form of life , that animal will
look upon humans as humans look upon Neanderthals
Humans gradual, continuous change will eventually dispel the myth of God
Our evolution will happen it is just a matter of time.
Quote from: "ticdog"The human animal will evolve into a more advanced form of life,
Oh? And what makes you say that?
Quotethat animal will look upon humans as humans look upon Neanderthals
Geico depictions aside, Neanderthals were actually fairly advanced for the time.
QuoteHumans gradual, continuous change will eventually dispel the myth of God
Debatable. And theists always find ways of accommodating new scientific findings, though there are limits.
QuoteOur evolution will happen it is just a matter of time.
It never stopped.
Weird introduction. But Hello there and welcome to the forum.
Quote from: "ticdog"Humans gradual, continuous change will eventually dispel the myth of God
I'd say it's not evolution, but advancements in science and knowledge that are leading to the death of religion.
Memetic 'evolution' has far surpassed genetic evolution.
QuoteMemetic 'evolution' has far surpassed genetic evolution
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I had to look that theory up ... Yes I agree with the concept I think it speaks to what I
am talking about. The more we learn the bigger our brains get . Evolution
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un3ObVrDNxM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un3ObVrDNxM)
I'm not quite sure what the point of this thread is.
why is it titled Darwinism?
QuoteI'm not quite sure what the point of this thread is.
why is it titled Darwinism?
My theory is humans will evolve into a more advanced thinking animal .
Darwin says we evolved from monkeys and I think we will keep evolving so
I am chatting about it ,,, Humans are made in the image of God I think not.
Quote from: "ticdog"QuoteI'm not quite sure what the point of this thread is.
why is it titled Darwinism?
My theory is humans will evolve into a more advanced thinking animal .
Darwin says we evolved from monkeys and I think we will keep evolving so
I am chatting about it ,,, Humans are made in the image of God I think not.
fair enough, might be a nitpick but Darwinism isn't anything. It's just evolution. We don't call accepting of electricity Franklinism, Newtonism for gravity. Evolution is the name of a process, something that has no end or goal.
Another nitpick but we aren't evolved from monkeys, but we share a common ancestor.
And you are correct, we are not made from the image of god, anyone who thinks that is beyond a lazy thinker.
Quote from: "ticdog"My theory is humans will evolve into a more advanced thinking animal .
Darwin says we evolved from monkeys and I think we will keep evolving so
I am chatting about it ,,, Humans are made in the image of God I think not.
Actually, we share a
common ancestry, we didn't evolve from apes.
Dr. Michio Kaku seems to think that Humans won't evolve much more because there isn't as much selection pressure now. Of course he's a physicist, so what does he know.
Quote from: "NitzWalsh"Dr. Michio Kaku seems to think that Humans won't evolve much more because there isn't as much selection pressure now. Of course he's a physicist, so what does he know.
you are right, what does he know?
Quote from: "Hydra009"Quote from: "ticdog"The human animal will evolve into a more advanced form of life,
Oh? And what makes you say that?
Excellent point, in the novel Galapagos's, Vonnegut postulates that Homo Sapiens evolve into a less intelligent life form that are essentially fat, dumb, happy, and almost sea lion like.
Quote from: "ticdog"QuoteI'm not quite sure what the point of this thread is.
why is it titled Darwinism?
My theory is humans will evolve into a more advanced thinking animal .
Darwin says we evolved from monkeys and I think we will keep evolving so
I am chatting about it ,,, Humans are made in the image of God I think not.
Evolution doesn't necessarily improve us in the ways we would consider to be advantageous. If somehow our environment changed in such a way that our big brains became a liability then the process of evolution would change us in ways we would consider pretty awful...but we would be fit for survival.
Quote from: "Sal1981"Quote from: "ticdog"My theory is humans will evolve into a more advanced thinking animal .
Darwin says we evolved from monkeys and I think we will keep evolving so
I am chatting about it ,,, Humans are made in the image of God I think not.
Actually, we share a common ancestry, we didn't evolve from apes.
Well, technically we did evolve from apes. In the same sense that seagulls evolved from birds of course. :rollin:
technically no we didn't. shared ancestor. in the same sense technically your bird analogy is incorrect.
//http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/faq/cat02.html
Quote1. Did we evolve from monkeys?
Humans did not evolve from monkeys. Humans are more closely related to modern apes than to monkeys, but we didn't evolve from apes, either. Humans share a common ancestor with modern African apes, like gorillas and chimpanzees. Scientists believe this common ancestor existed
5 to 8 million years ago. Shortly thereafter, the species diverged into two separate lineages. One of these lineages ultimately evolved into gorillas and chimps, and the other evolved into early human ancestors called hominids.
Incorrect. We are still apes, and the common ancestor between us and the various other ape species would also be classified as apes. The current human species is also evolved from various other human species.
Edit: The quote you chose tries to explain, rather poorly at that, that we are not evolved from any of the other ape species we see today.
Quote from: "La Dolce Vita"Incorrect. We are still apes, and the common ancestor between us and the various other ape species would also be classified as apes. The current human species is also evolved from various other human species.
Edit: The quote you chose tries to explain, rather poorly at that, that we are not evolved from any of the other ape species we see today.
huh? waa?
Quote from: "La Dolce Vita"Quote from: "Sal1981"Quote from: "ticdog"My theory is humans will evolve into a more advanced thinking animal .
Darwin says we evolved from monkeys and I think we will keep evolving so
I am chatting about it ,,, Humans are made in the image of God I think not.
Actually, we share a common ancestry, we didn't evolve from apes.
Well, technically we did evolve from apes. In the same sense that seagulls evolved from birds of course. :rollin:
Yeah, sorry about that, when I wrote "apes" I meant today's species of apes, not the category.
Quote from: "surly74"Quote from: "La Dolce Vita"Incorrect. We are still apes, and the common ancestor between us and the various other ape species would also be classified as apes. The current human species is also evolved from various other human species.
Edit: The quote you chose tries to explain, rather poorly at that, that we are not evolved from any of the other ape species we see today.
huh? waa?
Were you unaware that homo sapiens, all of the other now exctinct members of the homo family, as well as several of their ancestors - including the ancestors gorillas and the other current ape species share with us - are classified as apes?
The common ancestor of Humans and the other apes would be, by any reasonable definition, an ape. Just not an ape that is around today.
The common ancestor of apes and the other monkeys would be, by any reasonable definition, a monkey.
Quote from: "surly74"technically no we didn't. shared ancestor. in the same sense technically your bird analogy is incorrect.
No, he's correct. We did evolve from apes. Humans are great apes. Chimps are great apes. And our common ancestor was most certainly a great ape. And of course, all great apes are apes.
Did we evolve from monkeys? No. Besides, monkey (//http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey#Classification) is a stupid paraphyletic (//http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphyly) term, anyway, since it includes both New-world monkeys and Old-world monkeys, but not apes. In light of clades (//http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clade), the term is scientifically incorrect.
Humans are animals, chordates, tetrapods, amniotes, mammals, primates, and apes - and evolved from species within that lineage.
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About humans potentially evolving from monkeys, I do find this talk by AronRa fairly convincing:
[youtube:19g1c91m]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW6R9RHvVew[/youtube:19g1c91m]
Quote from: "La Dolce Vita"Quote from: "surly74"Quote from: "La Dolce Vita"Incorrect. We are still apes, and the common ancestor between us and the various other ape species would also be classified as apes. The current human species is also evolved from various other human species.
Edit: The quote you chose tries to explain, rather poorly at that, that we are not evolved from any of the other ape species we see today.
huh? waa?
Were you unaware that homo sapiens, all of the other now exctinct members of the homo family, as well as several of their ancestors - including the ancestors gorillas and the other current ape species share with us - are classified as apes?
i think it's quite obvious now i wasn't aware of that.
Quote from: "Hydra009"Quote from: "surly74"technically no we didn't. shared ancestor. in the same sense technically your bird analogy is incorrect.
No, he's correct. We did evolve from apes. Humans are great apes. Chimps are great apes. And our common ancestor was most certainly a great ape. And of course, all great apes are apes.
Did we evolve from monkeys? No. Besides, monkey (//http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey#Classification) is a stupid paraphyletic (//http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphyly) term, anyway, since it includes both New-world monkeys and Old-world monkeys, but not apes. In light of clades (//http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clade), the term is scientifically incorrect.
Humans are animals, chordates, tetrapods, amniotes, mammals, primates, and apes - and evolved from species within that lineage.
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very good.
There have been some claims that we are evolving to be less intelligent. We don't need to be as intelligent anymore given that our society has changed to where we can sit in front of the TV all day. Yes, of course humans are evolving. But, into what, I don't think anybody can say.
Quote from: "caseagainstfaith"There have been some claims that we are evolving to be less intelligent. We don't need to be as intelligent anymore given that our society has changed to where we can sit in front of the TV all day. Yes, of course humans are evolving. But, into what, I don't think anybody can say.
Idiocracy.
what the heck this guy is on crack!!! :-k
Quote from: "caseagainstfaith"There have been some claims that we are evolving to be less intelligent. We don't need to be as intelligent anymore given that our society has changed to where we can sit in front of the TV all day. Yes, of course humans are evolving. But, into what, I don't think anybody can say.
There are few studies on long enough scales to show a definite change in human intelligence. most early starts had their roots in bigotry designed to allow white Europeans to kidnap darker skinned people for cheap labor. be careful with this line of "studies" [-X
Quote from: "gregm766"Quote from: "Hydra009"Quote from: "ticdog"The human animal will evolve into a more advanced form of life,
Oh? And what makes you say that?
Excellent point, in the novel Galapagos's, Vonnegut postulates that Homo Sapiens evolve into a less intelligent life form that are essentially fat, dumb, happy, and almost [s:336i5omd]sea lion[/s:336i5omd] Rush Limbaugh like.
Like a typical Amurikan. :P
Given how interconnected the world is now, I would suspect we won't see any true speciation until humans begin to populate other planets than Earth.
Evolution is the response to change through adaptation. In nature flora and fauna are subject to change outside of the ability to control, hence adaptation is necessary. Humans are unique in that they can modify their environment artificially. If the environment does not alter and drive change, the necessity for evolution may simply not be there. We design the environment to suit what we are.
Indigenous homo sapiens like the Inuit and Australian Aborigines had to in part adapt because of their environment; hence, skin color, respiratory functions and body shape are different because of radically different environments. But now in the modern era, that necessity is lessened or gone, so the need to adapt is also gone.
The other conscious function- eugenics- artificially shapes our species through genetic selection. That is not evolution. The differences between homo sapiens now and the early Neolithic, hunter gather stage, have more to do with advances in sanitation, nutrition, medicine and the overcoming of factors that are detrimental to us.
Quote from: "Agramon"Given how interconnected the world is now, I would suspect we won't see any true speciation until humans begin to populate other planets than Earth.
^this. differences, again, in environment. Living in lesser or greater gravity, higher or lower UV exposure and so on could all effect change. It depends on the level of environmental control versus the need to adapt.
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"Why the thread's name is Darwinism, but not Human Evolution?
Beats me. Personally, I'm not into old guys with beards, because I am one.
Quote from: "ticdog"The human animal will evolve into a more advanced form of life , that animal will
look upon humans as humans look upon Neanderthals
I'm not sure what you mean by "more advanced". I assume you mean more intelligent since you reference "as humans look upon Neanderthals." This is more likely a wishful human goal. As infatuated humans may be with their intelligence, we don't know if that adaptation will survive. Human intelligence is a highly specialized adaptation, and past mass extinctions seem to indicate the most highly specialized species are the most vulnerable. They simply go extinct, as the vast majority of species have done throughout time. What's left behind after a mass extinction are a lot of simple mud dwelling critters and slimy worm type things. Well, you get the idea.
If human type intelligence were a trait shared by hundreds of thousands of other species, it would more likely be passed on through the next global wipe out, but when a trait is limited to a handful of species, it's more likely going to end up as an evolutionary dead end as a sort of evolutionary quirk left in the geologic record.
Quote from: "ticdog"QuoteI'm not quite sure what the point of this thread is.
why is it titled Darwinism?
My theory is humans will evolve into a more advanced thinking animal .
Darwin says we evolved from monkeys and I think we will keep evolving so
I am chatting about it ,,, Humans are made in the image of God I think not.
Hmmmm. Have you read
The Origin of the Species? Evolution is not about becoming better, like annual car model modifications. It's about selection and adaptation in response to pressures.
Quote from: "Agramon"Given how interconnected the world is now, I would suspect we won't see any true speciation until humans begin to populate other planets than Earth.
Not so much that, but we've adapted to all possible environments.
Whilst it's not true speciation, the emergence of modern human races may be the last evident change in us. And even then, this was only 15-20,000 years ago.
Quote from: "stromboli"Evolution is the response to change through adaptation. In nature flora and fauna are subject to change outside of the ability to control, hence adaptation is necessary. Humans are unique in that they can modify their environment artificially. If the environment does not alter and drive change, the necessity for evolution may simply not be there. We design the environment to suit what we are.
Indigenous homo sapiens like the Inuit and Australian Aborigines had to in part adapt because of their environment; hence, skin color, respiratory functions and body shape are different because of radically different environments. But now in the modern era, that necessity is lessened or gone, so the need to adapt is also gone.
The other conscious function- eugenics- artificially shapes our species through genetic selection. That is not evolution. The differences between homo sapiens now and the early Neolithic, hunter gather stage, have more to do with advances in sanitation, nutrition, medicine and the overcoming of factors that are detrimental to us.
Indigenous? Yeah.. so all humans don't hold a place of origin.... Why perchance are not Han Chinese "indigenous" to China? Or Germanic peoples (English, Germans, Dutch, Scandinavians, etc.) "indigenous peoples in Northern Europe"?
Quote from: "ticdog"QuoteI'm not quite sure what the point of this thread is.
why is it titled Darwinism?
My theory is humans will evolve into a more advanced thinking animal .
Darwin says we evolved from monkeys and I think we will keep evolving so
I am chatting about it ,,, Humans are made in the image of God I think not.
What makes you say that?
Evolution cannot be predicted by definition. It all depends on future environments, which of course we cannot predict or say with certainty will occur. It's like saying "in 50,000 years time, tigers and lions will move into each others' range, interbreed, and become a super-feline sapient race". This could happen, but there is no way to prove it.
Quote from: "Sal1981"Quote from: "ticdog"My theory is humans will evolve into a more advanced thinking animal .
Darwin says we evolved from monkeys and I think we will keep evolving so
I am chatting about it ,,, Humans are made in the image of God I think not.
Actually, we share a common ancestry, we didn't evolve from apes.
What?
Kindly state a noted paleoanthropologist who says such foolishness lol..
Quote from: "ticdog"The human animal will evolve into a more advanced form of life , that animal will
look upon humans as humans look upon Neanderthals
Humans gradual, continuous change will eventually dispel the myth of God
Our evolution will happen it is just a matter of time.
Nobody know if a day no one will believe in God.