yes
I don't understand the post...
Quote from: PickelledEggs on May 28, 2016, 01:23:55 PM
I don't understand the post...
I'll put that down as a "no".
People agnostic. My attraction and repulsion, to other people and they to me, is parallel to my feelings about G-d. Yes, I am anthropomorphic ... because that is all I can ever understand, being a human myself.
But other people would put me down as a definite "no".
So far, No 2 : Yes 1
I used to think I was, but not so much anymore. But it's OK.
We're @ No 3:1
People people are my mortal enemies. As are morning people, chipper people, people who play acoustic guitar, and people who breathe.
No 4:1
Oh. I didn't realize this was a question for us....
I'm definitely good at talking with people and people tend to like me. Going by that, yes.
Going by how I don't automatically like most people and I'm overly honest and transparent with them.... that is probably a maybe, but leaning towards no. I'd say I'm in between. Most people are fake asswipes that don't have the balls to say what is on their mind.... so actually keep me as a no.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on May 28, 2016, 03:03:52 PM
I'm overly honest and transparent with them.... that is probably a maybe
That seems people oriented to me.
https://adnelg.wordpress.com/2011/06/07/whats-the-opposite-of-a-people-person/ (https://adnelg.wordpress.com/2011/06/07/whats-the-opposite-of-a-people-person/)
Quote from: PickelledEggs on May 28, 2016, 03:03:52 PM
Most people are fake asswipes that don't have the balls to say what is on their mind.... so actually keep me as a no.
That just sounds like you've trusted some con artists. I think people people are vulnerable in their enthusiasm.
EDIT: I can't get an honest review either.
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Quote from: Hydra009 on May 28, 2016, 03:54:56 PM
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And then ironically congregate on the internet.
Quote from: gentle_dissident on May 28, 2016, 03:12:36 PM
That seems people oriented to me.
https://adnelg.wordpress.com/2011/06/07/whats-the-opposite-of-a-people-person/ (https://adnelg.wordpress.com/2011/06/07/whats-the-opposite-of-a-people-person/)
That just sounds like you've trusted some con artists. I think people people are vulnerable in their enthusiasm.
EDIT: I can't get an honest review either.
I haven't trusted con artists. I'm talking about people that act all friendly towards you, just for the sake of being polite, but at the same time they don't like you at all. Fake niceties are disgusting. I have a pretty good eye for them too and see right through them.
I guess you could say I hate social niceties for the sake of social niceties. I can't really respect people that overuse them. I'm an honest and straightforward person. The person you see on the internet is the same you will see in real life. I don't have a filter. While I'm not saying people shouldn't have a filter... to a point I think they should... but not to the point that they go the complete opposite way and say things they don't mean for the sake of being "nice". Like... you don't have to tell someone an insult if they look like shit, but at the same time, you don't need to give them a fake compliment about how they look.
Someone once accused me of "hating" her. I'm not really sure how she came to that conclusion... probably because she is paranoid along side being a conspiracy theorist... I told her. "I don't like you, but I definitely don't dislike you. I haven't really figured out how I feel about you yet." I wish everyone could do something like that.... but that isn't how most people work...
Quote from: PickelledEggs on May 28, 2016, 04:19:54 PM
but that isn't how most people work...
Most people are conned into one general way of thinking for fun an profit. If they can't say anything nice... I'm actually looking for criticism, but they're not. Better safe than sorry.
I'm glad you haven't trusted this guy.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-E8TUbbbnmhbJmm/josie_and_the_pussycats_2001_testing_new_dujour_song/ (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-E8TUbbbnmhbJmm/josie_and_the_pussycats_2001_testing_new_dujour_song/)
"I gotta buy a 6-pack of zima" lmao
Quote from: gentle_dissident on May 28, 2016, 03:59:13 PMAnd then ironically congregate on the internet.
It's social interaction without obligation, that dreaded crowded feeling, and paced so that one can reflect before speaking and speak without being interrupted. It's an introvert's paradise.
Quote from: Hydra009 on May 28, 2016, 05:49:34 PM
It's social interaction without obligation, that dreaded crowded feeling, and paced so that one can reflect before speaking and speak without being interrupted. It's an introvert's paradise.
I'm just here for the people. Have you tried it? Ask for extra butter.
Quote from: gentle_dissident on May 28, 2016, 05:59:01 PM
I'm just here for the people. Have you tried it? Ask for extra butter.
I'm here to see which way the wind is blowing in the atheist community, bounce ideas off of ya, take in info that you guys come across, rant so I don't blow a gasket, and to shoot the breeze. Also, informal psychological research. A few subjects are quite promising.
Cake will be available at the conclusion of the test. Chocolate. Golden rectangle. 4E2E28. 2.5kg. Party hats are optional.
I'm putting everybody on ignore.
I like people---as long as they stay the fuck out of my way--and out of my face. Really--I like my three dogs better .
It's odd that all these sensitive and intelligent people, AKA leaders, resist people.
Quote from: gentle_dissident on May 29, 2016, 03:25:39 PM
It's odd that all these sensitive and intelligent people, AKA leaders, resist people.
Didn't you know - leaders usually hate the people whom they lead?
Quote from: marom1963 on May 29, 2016, 03:29:56 PM
Didn't you know - leaders usually hate the people whom they lead?
That's apparent, but we're above that.
Quote from: gentle_dissident on May 29, 2016, 03:25:39 PM
It's odd that all these sensitive and intelligent people, AKA leaders, resist people.
Good leaders typically aren't eager to become leaders.
Quote from: Hydra009 on May 29, 2016, 03:54:23 PM
Good leaders typically aren't eager to become leaders.
You don't have to be a leader. You just have to lead. No one will ever know.
But that requires going out, interacting with people, and dealing with uncertainty of both people and life. What if something goes wrong? What if Jack creates an incident? That Jack, always causing problems. It'd be horrible. Positively horrible. Also, what if there's a vacuum metastability event? The end of the universe would absolutely wreck my foray into a leadership position and pose a serious inconvenience to my team. I don't want that to happen under my watch. Someone's got to do something about that first. Maybe if I just...no, no that won't work...how about slightly altering fundamental interactions...no....slow roll inflation? That might just work. But constructing the device, well, that'd require a highly talented team. And a highly talented team needs a highly talented leader... :sad2:
I dunno about this whole leadership thing. It just involves too much physics.
I have often said that people who claim to be a "people person" , simply haven't met enough people.
My company recently sent me to a 12-week Dale Carnegie course. I just finished the last session two weeks ago. I have to say it was eye-opening and very much worth while from a career ladder stand point. I am still very much a miserable SOB introvert and very jaded and very cynical just like I was when I started. But the course gave me very good tools which enable me to very effectively fake being a lovable extrovert when necessary and/or effectively coerce/manipulate/force people not just to do things they don't want to do, but actually willingly want to do things they don't want to do without hating me. Even though I didn't have to pay for it, I have to say it was money well spent. And although it really bugs me to be such a kool-aid drinker, I kind of recommend it for just about everyone who has to work for a living.
Quote from: marom1963 on May 29, 2016, 03:29:56 PM
Didn't you know - leaders usually hate the people whom they lead?
Familiarity breeds mutual contempt.
I've made more friends by making intelligent random comments in a social situation and had an intelligent random comment in response. That's how I met my wife. People that approach you likely have an agenda, which is why I blow them off. Most of my friendships have evolved from work or duty situations. My past best friends were Navy buddies or others I worked with professionally. Our friendship was based on trust, knowing they could handle their shit and you could rely on them.
I have exactly one friend now because I don't have a need for friends- I'm a very self contained person. I grew up dealing with my personal issues mostly by myself, so look to myself first for the solution. I know a lot of people who immediately seek out friends for advice or help. I don't do that, because self reliance is essential with me.
I was always pretty much an outcast socially growing up, that certainly didn't help- either from being poor or not physically attractive. Nothing wrong with being a loner, except the marshmallow brains that need to include you in everything.
Quote from: stromboli on May 30, 2016, 09:55:35 AM
I've made more friends by making intelligent random comments in a social situation and had an intelligent random comment in response. That's how I met my wife. People that approach you likely have an agenda, which is why I blow them off. Most of my friendships have evolved from work or duty situations. My past best friends were Navy buddies or others I worked with professionally. Our friendship was based on trust, knowing they could handle their shit and you could rely on them.
I have exactly one friend now because I don't have a need for friends- I'm a very self contained person. I grew up dealing with my personal issues mostly by myself, so look to myself first for the solution. I know a lot of people who immediately seek out friends for advice or help. I don't do that, because self reliance is essential with me.
I was always pretty much an outcast socially growing up, that certainly didn't help- either from being poor or not physically attractive. Nothing wrong with being a loner, except the marshmallow brains that need to include you in everything.
^This. Almost to a tee!!
I have one friend (besides my wife) in my life right now. I had more when I was working, because of the trust and reliability thing. Now that I'm retired, I am very self contained--and like it that way. I like to say that I, like Jesus(snark, snark), am a trio--me, myself and I; and we get along very well ! It was not always so--but through the school of hard knocks I have found that I can rely on that group. The biggest difference I see between us, Strom, is that you are self directed to the outside and crafting with your hands. That is totally laudable! I admire that ability. I am almost totally self directed to inside; I live computer games (solo only!), reading, being with my dogs and the like. But my wife is a great gardener, so I assist her as the shovel man--she is the engineer of an entire corner lot organic garden; I am manual labor. But that's cool. (Well, not now, it is very hot--7 days of 100+; shoveling is now harder!)
Quote from: Mike Cl on May 30, 2016, 11:45:35 AM
^This. Almost to a tee!!
I have one friend (besides my wife) in my life right now. I had more when I was working, because of the trust and reliability thing. Now that I'm retired, I am very self contained--and like it that way. I like to say that I, like Jesus(snark, snark), am a trio--me, myself and I; and we get along very well ! It was not always so--but through the school of hard knocks I have found that I can rely on that group. The biggest difference I see between us, Strom, is that you are self directed to the outside and crafting with your hands. That is totally laudable! I admire that ability. I am almost totally self directed to inside; I live computer games (solo only!), reading, being with my dogs and the like. But my wife is a great gardener, so I assist her as the shovel man--she is the engineer of an entire corner lot organic garden; I am manual labor. But that's cool. (Well, not now, it is very hot--7 days of 100+; shoveling is now harder!)
Where do you live that the temperature is that high in May?
I love people, hence the reason both my future careers ( either in anthropology or teaching, though psychology seems cool as well) all directly deal with people.
That said, I'm an extremely emotional and insecure person, so I normally just end up hurting the people I want to get to know.
Quote from: Shiranu on May 30, 2016, 11:49:34 AM
I love people, hence the reason both my future careers ( either in anthropology or teaching, though psychology seems cool as well) all directly deal with people.
That said, I'm an extremely emotional and insecure person, so I normally just end up hurting the people I want to get to know.
Skinner was an excellent psychologist - but I'm sure that he hated people.
I'm a people person. I only daydream about sitting in a machine-gun nest, firing on everyone that goes by. I wouldn't actually do it ... I don't think.
United we stand. Divided we fall.
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Disdain and apathy give us no right to complain. That's how it got this way.
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Quote from: Shiranu on May 30, 2016, 11:49:34 AM
I love people, hence the reason both my future careers ( either in anthropology or teaching, though psychology seems cool as well) all directly deal with people.
That said, I'm an extremely emotional and insecure person, so I normally just end up hurting the people I want to get to know.
You have a lot of potential to do that ... because you can't understand hurt people (the majority) unless you have been hurt. I hope you find your catharsis that will allow you to use your problems to help others with similar problems. That is what shamen do.
Quote from: Baruch on May 30, 2016, 01:13:17 PM
I hope you find your catharsis that will allow you to use your problems to help others with similar problems. That is what shamen do.
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Quote from: marom1963 on May 30, 2016, 11:48:46 AM
Where do you live that the temperature is that high in May?
In the middle of the fucking dessert!!! Will be, if we don't start getting some rain. I live in the middle of the San Joaquin Valley--the very valley that produces the produce you likely get in your market. I mean, we grown almonds, any melon you can think of, cotton, walnuts, figs, citrus, lettuce, tomatoes, apricots, peaches, grapes (raisins)--and the list goes on! Yeah--7 fucking days of 100--with Fri and Sat getting fucking 108!!!!! What am I doing still living here!!!
Quote from: Mike Cl on May 30, 2016, 03:01:54 PM
What am I doing still living here!!!
My condolences.
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Quote from: gentle_dissident on May 30, 2016, 03:18:05 PM
My condolences.
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Thanks! :))) It is one bigggggggg frappin' valley. It stretches from Redding in the north, to Bakersfield (Lil' Nashville) in the south; it would take 7 hrs of freeway driving to go one to the other. That's a valley! And it produces more than most countries; I am spoiled by it--if an apple has one blemish, or a tomato has one flaw in it's skin--back it goes and I get another. But it has been getting hotter lately. We were going to move to near Eugene, OR (GOD's country!!)--but Dubya happened and the house prices when to shit. So, here we stay. But I do love the house I'm in and the critters I share it with--my wife and dogs--I'm not bitching all that much. :))
Was sad to see, because of the drought, the orchard folks were pulling up all of the almond trees. Half a lifetime ago, I saw old abandoned olive trees north of Sacramento ... just going to seed. Sad.
Quote from: SGOS on May 28, 2016, 02:42:48 PM
I used to think I was, but not so much anymore. But it's OK.
I'd say you are.