Skynet Becomes Self Aware and Goes Active In 3...2...1....

Started by stromboli, February 23, 2013, 10:42:14 PM

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Plu

People will find some way or another to kill each other. I'm not particularly scared about any of the methods, it's not as if we could get rid of violence either way.

stromboli

Quote from: "Bobby_Ouroborus"It would be way too expensive for most nation to field an army of androids. Only the richest nation would have them and will probably utilize them in domestic policing actions too which is way more scarier. I also think since cybernetic will become more advanced we will probably field armies of cyborgs too

For sure this is a major concern. The "trickle down" of military hardware to domestic police has always happened, because the police recruit from the military. But it seems lately that the level and speed of that happening has increased- police are already using drones and I know that studies using EMP as a means to stop cars has been done, and other high tech technological applications.

The fact also that the police are working for and funded by big money leads to the possibility of Robocop, where the police work directly for corporations. More likely inevitable than not.

WitchSabrina

Quote from: "Bibliofagus"As long as they don't self replicate it's okay I guess.
I'm confident I would be equally inconvenienced being shot by either people or robots.

This ^^.  lol
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SGOS

Maybe from this we could develop a variation of killer robots, perhaps senator and congressmen robots that sit in the chambers of congress and debate, vote, have sex with their robot assistants.  They could be designed so that they move their mouths, although not necessarily in synchronization with what they are thinking.

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commonsense822

Quote from: "BlackL1ght"In all seriousness, I don't see the problem. Anyone who thinks that robots are going to go terminator/vicki on us needs to cut down on the scifi. Robots always do exactly as they're told. Period. It's just the way they work. Sure we may eventually have artificial intelligence complex enough to come up with the concept of killing humans, but we're not anywhere near there. Like not even close. So if in the meantime, wars change to scrap metal and resistors instead of blood and kidneys, I am totally totally fine with that.

I'm not concerned with robots discovering free will and then destroying humans in some iRobot like fiasco.  I am worried about the fact that (as you pointed out) robots will do exactly as they are told.  One of the main reasons that governments can't become completely oppressive is because as a government becomes more oppressive, its public support starts to shift away, eventually to the point where the angered public will revolt against their government.  Essentially the government is kept in check by the sheer number of people that it governs.  It can't afford to piss them off too much, because they will turn against the government.  And there are a lot more people in a nation than there are government officials.

Now if you have militarized robots that autonomously follow orders, without the human ability to question those orders, there is the possibility of a small group of people to be able to completely control a nation via their "robot army."

stromboli

Quote from: "commonsense822"
Quote from: "BlackL1ght"In all seriousness, I don't see the problem. Anyone who thinks that robots are going to go terminator/vicki on us needs to cut down on the scifi. Robots always do exactly as they're told. Period. It's just the way they work. Sure we may eventually have artificial intelligence complex enough to come up with the concept of killing humans, but we're not anywhere near there. Like not even close. So if in the meantime, wars change to scrap metal and resistors instead of blood and kidneys, I am totally totally fine with that.

I'm not concerned with robots discovering free will and then destroying humans in some iRobot like fiasco.  I am worried about the fact that (as you pointed out) robots will do exactly as they are told.  One of the main reasons that governments can't become completely oppressive is because as a government becomes more oppressive, its public support starts to shift away, eventually to the point where the angered public will revolt against their government.  Essentially the government is kept in check by the sheer number of people that it governs.  It can't afford to piss them off too much, because they will turn against the government.  And there are a lot more people in a nation than there are government officials.

Now if you have militarized robots that autonomously follow orders, without the human ability to question those orders, there is the possibility of a small group of people to be able to completely control a nation via their "robot army."

Right. What concerns me is when you think of robots, that is what comes to mind- Terminator or Irobot. Robots come in all forms. Imagine something like a spider loosed in a house on a seek and destroy mission, able to select targets and take out individuals. That is a scary scenario, because it is almost undefensable and how do you prove it happened, if people are killed by poison or other means? The possible scenarios are legion. And it is coming.

Jmpty

Quote from: "commonsense822"
Quote from: "BlackL1ght"In all seriousness, I don't see the problem. Anyone who thinks that robots are going to go terminator/vicki on us needs to cut down on the scifi. Robots always do exactly as they're told. Period. It's just the way they work. Sure we may eventually have artificial intelligence complex enough to come up with the concept of killing humans, but we're not anywhere near there. Like not even close. So if in the meantime, wars change to scrap metal and resistors instead of blood and kidneys, I am totally totally fine with that.

I'm not concerned with robots discovering free will and then destroying humans in some iRobot like fiasco.  I am worried about the fact that (as you pointed out) robots will do exactly as they are told.  One of the main reasons that governments can't become completely oppressive is because as a government becomes more oppressive, its public support starts to shift away, eventually to the point where the angered public will revolt against their government.  Essentially the government is kept in check by the sheer number of people that it governs.  It can't afford to piss them off too much, because they will turn against the government.  And there are a lot more people in a nation than there are government officials.

Now if you have militarized robots that autonomously follow orders, without the human ability to question those orders, there is the possibility of a small group of people to be able to completely control a nation via their "robot army."

Sounds like the DPRK. Except for the robots.
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Bobby_Ouroborus

Quote from: "stromboli"I think we are a long way away from Terminator androids. What we will see initially is advanced versions of the current drones, and smaller autonomous intelligence drones. I think the combination of autonomy and nanobots is a real possibility, and frankly scary.

You should see how far the Japanese have come in developing a Sex-droid. Just have their boobs shoot bullets and we have Terminator.

commonsense822

Quote from: "Bobby_Ouroborus"
Quote from: "stromboli"I think we are a long way away from Terminator androids. What we will see initially is advanced versions of the current drones, and smaller autonomous intelligence drones. I think the combination of autonomy and nanobots is a real possibility, and frankly scary.

You should see how far the Japanese have come in developing a Sex-droid. Just have their boobs shoot bullets and we have Terminator.

Such a strangely, sexually oppressed country...

Bobby_Ouroborus

Quote from: "commonsense822"
Quote from: "Bobby_Ouroborus"
Quote from: "stromboli"I think we are a long way away from Terminator androids. What we will see initially is advanced versions of the current drones, and smaller autonomous intelligence drones. I think the combination of autonomy and nanobots is a real possibility, and frankly scary.

You should see how far the Japanese have come in developing a Sex-droid. Just have their boobs shoot bullets and we have Terminator.

Such a strangely, sexually oppressed country...

Thisclose.

//http://cltampa.com/dailyloaf/archives/2011/11/30/japan-is-one-step-closer-to-creating-legions-of-sex-robots-video#.USrF-VeQ0eU

Shiranu

I don't fear a robot anymore than I fear a gun. What I fear are the people controlling them, and anything that makes killing more efficient is bad for humanity.
Every day is a good day to *remove from server* an autocrat.

dawiw

Highly unlikely going to happen anytime soon.

It may took centuries we can even see a robot that as a reason,

Reminds me of "I, Robot" movie
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Brian37

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Jmpty

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Quote from: "Jmpty"I, for one, will welcome our new robot overlords.

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