at what point is conformity to laws against your philosophy of atheism?

Started by phattmatt, May 12, 2014, 11:10:13 PM

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phattmatt

This question is open ended and vague.  An example would be if there were a law that you can be executed for cheating on your spouse.

AllPurposeAtheist

Pretty simple.  When the law says religious indoctrination is mandatory I stop conforming. The law doesn't say anyone has to conform to any such law so it's irrelevant.
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Contemporary Protestant

Even as a theist, seeing someone else's freedom restricted is irritating

phattmatt

If its an atheist empire like the soviet union, should you conform to the laws of such a ruthless military dictatorship?

AllPurposeAtheist

Well,  be it as it may you've finally earned your way into my magic ignore list. Congratulations!  :dance:
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Quote from: phattmatt on May 12, 2014, 11:32:32 PM
If its an atheist empire like the soviet union, should you conform to the laws of such a ruthless military dictatorship?

First of all, the soviet Union wasn't an atheist empire. As I stated earlier in another thread, the antireligion stance had more to do with the fact that the Russian Orthodox religion was a major power and land owner in the Soviet Union and closely tied to the Czar. It was a natural target. Certain groups that had been perscuted under Czarist leadership, like the Jews and Muslims, were more tolerated under the Soviet Union.

The Soviet Union was brutal, but that first in retaliation for Czarist atrocities and then for Nazi atrocities. And yes, it was easier to comply than fight. The East German government was brutal because the Russians had lost millions of lives in WW2 fighting them. Stalin was a monster, no doubt. Any totalitarian regime is. Better to lay low than die in a Siberian Gulag.

AllPurposeAtheist

You should read The Secret Speech Strom.. It's a novel based on the exact same thing you just posted. Good read.
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Quote from: phattmatt on May 12, 2014, 11:32:32 PM
If its an atheist empire like the soviet union, should you conform to the laws of such a ruthless military dictatorship?
I have as much in common with the Soviets as Tiberius Caesar has with Abraham Lincoln.
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Solitary

Quoteat what point is conformity to laws against your philosophy of atheism?

This is not a logical question: Name tagging, and therefore a rhetorical question.
In simple terms: Atheism has nothing to do with conformity to law, or not. So the question can't be answered. This is also a non sequitur, because it does not follow that an atheist will, or will not, conform to a law because of atheism.  Solitary
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Mister Agenda

Quote from: phattmatt on May 12, 2014, 11:10:13 PM
This question is open ended and vague.  An example would be if there were a law that you can be executed for cheating on your spouse.

I would object to the law you cite as an example because I don't think adultery is a crime that deserves death. Nothing to do with my atheism.
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Mister Agenda

Quote from: phattmatt on May 12, 2014, 11:32:32 PM
If its an atheist empire like the soviet union, should you conform to the laws of such a ruthless military dictatorship?

No, but since atheism is not a philosophy (nor is theism a religion), my atheism does not inform my opinion on the matter.
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stromboli

Quote from: AllPurposeAtheist on May 13, 2014, 12:07:25 AM
You should read The Secret Speech Strom.. It's a novel based on the exact same thing you just posted. Good read.

Thanks, i will.

Poison Tree

at what point is conformity to laws against your philosophy of atheism?

When the law requires me to believe in god(s); that is the only time it could be against atheism.
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doorknob

It depends on the individual law. Obviously killing some one for cheating on a spouse is over kill and an outrage! Definitely wouldn't conform to that.

the_antithesis

Quote from: phattmatt on May 12, 2014, 11:10:13 PM
This question is open ended and vague.  An example would be if there were a law that you can be executed for cheating on your spouse.

The fuck does that have to do with atheism?