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Title: I'm sorry... But there's no nice way to say this.
Post by: noneHalos on March 27, 2013, 02:57:37 PM
This guy is a dipshit

[youtube:39dl4hnh]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhX4DlNt9TA[/youtube:39dl4hnh]
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Post by: Brian37 on March 27, 2013, 03:23:23 PM
I could not get passed the first 20 seconds. Same shit dressed up in pop culture, same bad arguments same circular reasoning "my bible said".

All I have to say to this fuck wad is YOU DON'T HAVE  A VAGINA!

Secondly, unless YOU dip shit are willing to raise all the unwanted kids yourself, SHUT THE FUCK UP!

This idiot cares more about what a woman does with her own body than the harm that happens all the time to kids after they are born.

"Aren't you happy your mother didn't have an abortion" stupid fucking argument.

DUH, but what if Hitler's mother had had one?

God believers of all labels think of life as a script and a utopia when it is not. Life is a crap shoot, not a political label or a religion. And unless you are the one having to make that life choice EITHER WAY, to keep the baby or have an abortion, SHUT THE FUCK UP!
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Post by: Lolilla on March 27, 2013, 05:28:30 PM
This guy is so damn stupid it's almost funny.
Really great point: "Most people do not accept that abortion is forbidden in the Bible."
Yeah, ok. SO WHAT??

How stupid can one be, seriously?
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Post by: NitzWalsh on March 27, 2013, 06:03:30 PM
Why was this guy ever born?

His arguments only work if you take the bible as true and pick and choose commandments. When the bible says stuff that's wrong, I don't believe it. It has nothing to do with how explicit it states it. The bible doesn't make provisions for abortions, but it does for rape. Instead of allowing the victim of rape the choice to have an abortion if she doesn't want to give birth to her rapists child, we should force her to marry him and have all his children.
Title: Re: I'm sorry... But there's no nice way to say this.
Post by: GurrenLagann on March 27, 2013, 11:09:22 PM
As far as I know, the Bible says nothing about forbidding abortions. On a side note, it unambiguously supports polygamy all throughout the Old Testament, and I can't recall any repudiation in the New Testament.
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Post by: the_antithesis on March 27, 2013, 11:42:45 PM
The bible said yo momma.
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Post by: billhilly on March 28, 2013, 02:16:32 AM
This guy has a whole series of videos on various subjects.  It's the right's effort to appeal to the "hip" people I guess..................
Title: Re: I'm sorry... But there's no nice way to say this.
Post by: bennyboy on March 28, 2013, 03:53:55 PM
"You probably refuse to see that. . ."

This guy seems to think that people are carefully going through scripture and denying it all the way.  Sounds like a lot of work to me.
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Post by: NitzWalsh on March 28, 2013, 04:47:09 PM
Sounds like a fun project. I think the skeptics annotated bible already did that.
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Post by: Thackerie on June 04, 2013, 01:04:33 PM
Quote from: "Lolilla"This guy is so damn stupid it's almost funny.
Really great point: "Most people do not accept that abortion is forbidden in the Bible."
Yeah, ok. SO WHAT??

How stupid can one be, seriously?

WHERE, precisely, is abortion forbidden in the Bible? I don't think it is. I think the anti-choicers have to do a lot of bending and twisting to construe any specific verse(s) as being an admonition about abortion.
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Post by: Colanth on June 04, 2013, 01:36:47 PM
I've heard some of them 'interpret' Jeremiah 1:5 (Before I formed you in the womb I knew you) as a prohibition against abortion.

The only actual mention of a fetus being killed is Deuteronomy 25:11, and it says that the fetus is the property of the husband.  The Bible doesn't hold fetuses or children (or women) in any special regard.
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Post by: Jason78 on June 05, 2013, 08:16:27 AM
Quote from: "Thackerie"WHERE, precisely, is abortion forbidden in the Bible? I don't think it is. I think the anti-choicers have to do a lot of bending and twisting to construe any specific verse(s) as being an admonition about abortion.

It doesn't specifically mention abortion in the bible.  It does however mention how happy it makes the LORD to see little children dashed against rocks.  And how do deal with unruly children (You get them stoned).

So, in conclusion, Christians believe you should abort your children after they are born rather than before.
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Post by: Brian37 on June 05, 2013, 08:56:54 AM
Quote from: "Lolilla"This guy is so damn stupid it's almost funny.
Really great point: "Most people do not accept that abortion is forbidden in the Bible."
Yeah, ok. SO WHAT??

How stupid can one be, seriously?

And since common law is secular and not based on religion once again SHUT THE FUCK UP!
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Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on June 05, 2013, 09:05:33 AM
His buybull also thinks women came from a mans rib. The whole story loses all credibility in the first few chapters..  *yawn*
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Post by: Solitary on June 05, 2013, 11:57:31 AM
The bible (which one?) is so ambiguous it can be used for any opinion, but not for facts. I have used it to support my atheist posts with believers. "I find both prophet and priest profane." for example. There is a very good reason for the terms zygote and fetus, because that's what they are. Even if abortion was wrong, or not to be done according to the bible, and illegal, does anyone think it would stop it from being done? War is wrong, and yet the bible thumpers glorify it.

Another case of pick and choose. Why is religion or the bible seen to be the authority on morality anyway? Their past record for 6,000 years of recorded history, and even now, show they don't have a clue what is morally right. They can't even get the very simple, "Do not to others what you would not want done to you!" I mean, how much brain power does it take to figure that one out? Bill
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Post by: Colanth on June 05, 2013, 10:16:20 PM
Quote from: "Solitary"The bible (which one?) is so ambiguous it can be used for any opinion, but not for facts. I have used it to support my atheist posts with believers. "I find both prophet and priest profane." for example. There is a very good reason for the terms zygote and fetus, because that's what they are. Even if abortion was wrong, or not to be done according to the bible, and illegal, does anyone think it would stop it from being done?
A lot of them actually do think that there were no abortions performed before Roe v. Wade.  There were even legal abortions performed by doctors in hospitals back then.  Just about every state, including those in the Bible Belt, had legal exemptions.  (and many doctors performed abortions, but recorded them as miscarriages.)
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Post by: gussy on June 05, 2013, 10:32:20 PM
If these people went back to biblical times they would be horrified.  A child born with abnormalities would be smothered to death by the mother.  The second daughter didn't stand much of a chance.  Be glad we don't try too hard to emulate those people.
Title: Re: I'm sorry... But there's no nice way to say this.
Post by: Krisyork2008 on June 05, 2013, 10:35:46 PM
I heard it phrased really well once. These people aren't pro-life at all; they're pro-birth.

If they cared at all about the life of the future child they would consider whether it makes sense to bring them into the world when their biological parent doesn't want them.
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Post by: Colanth on June 06, 2013, 12:57:51 AM
Quote from: "gussy"If these people went back to biblical times they would be horrified.  A child born with abnormalities would be smothered to death by the mother.  The second daughter didn't stand much of a chance.  Be glad we don't try too hard to emulate those people.
They don't want to go back to real Biblical times, they want to go back to the fictional "Biblical times" the Church has sold them on.  You know, the times that never really happened?
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Post by: Solitary on June 06, 2013, 01:12:18 AM
The original Hawaiians used to think a child that was born with defects was special and a god and clubbed to death. When my wife, son (who has scoliosis), and I were there a man came up to us as we were sitting and kept coming leaving pineapples at my son's feet. Later that day we took a walk and had older people kneeling in front of him in reverence. I asked a man about why older people were doing that to my son. He told me that if he survived being born he was a god of the highest order. We stayed away from the older people that still believed in the old ways after that. So now you know why Hawaiians are so big and strong, they killed off the weak at one time. This was evolution at work. Bill