There have been protests against building a shopping center in the place of a park in Taksim square in ?stanbul. As police has started to use excessive pepper spray and force lately in any protest, this protest has grown big and turned in to a protest against the religious government.
No deaths fortunately but close to 1000 is injured. They are people who lost their eyes. People support it from other cities and actually start to go to ?stanbul for the protests.
Media and channels are heavily censored and they didn't give any coverage other than that some light bullshit.
It continues without a break. People are still going to protests or support the protestors.
Started as simple as what you see in pics below, continued for 3 days
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but in 4th day and police terrorism it has turned to something else.
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The above pic is from another city, ?zmir.
That bridge below is one of the bridges between continents Asia and Europe.
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Man that's horrible. The police reaction has been massively excessive.
I'm glad that people are taking a stand though and aren't afraid to out themselves in front of a regime that seems to not care if people are hurt if they oppose its plans.
I hope turkey gets through it stronger, and kick the religionists out.
Having an argument over FB with a Muslim friend who believes the protests have nothing to do with the encroachment of religious laws in a secular society. LOL
It's fucking rediculous shoe. This guy is really smart but has a mental block when you mention the words 'Islam' and 'piece of shit religion'. :rollin:
Take care of yourself. Like I told my son when he went into combat- keep your head down. Luck to you.
Turkish Spring?
Quote from: "pr126"Turkish Spring?
Yeah, that's worked so well in the past....... being sarcastic, aren't you?
Be safe, Shoe. 8-[
Quote from: "stromboli"Quote from: "pr126"Turkish Spring?
Yeah, that's worked so well in the past....... being sarcastic, aren't you?
Absolutely not.
But I can guess that the winner will be Islam. If past experience anything to go by.
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"That's because everyone knows this has nothing to do with a bunch of trees needlessly to say. I don't know, Fidel, I hope the stand will prove for the good. The important thing is it's a start... I really don't know what to say. Too many info coming through and mixed rumour& truth. And we are trying to carry info out there (doctor, lawyer, food, anything possible) to people who needs help.
Some unbelievable things happened though. 5 stars hotels opened their doors free to protestors. Free bed, shelter, food... Foreign schools and colleges are taking people (Like St Joseph...etc) Pharmacies in Taksim are not charging people. My fave people were a garbage truck driver and a busdriver (both gov workers) giving their vehicles to protestors for making barrier against the police.
Football team supporters were really effective as you may guess. For the first time in history, different teams Fenerbahçe, Galatasary and Be?ikta? united to do something. It's like defying nature in here you know. Some cops have resigned. Some joined the protestors, but more coming.
Nothing looks good to me though. My only solace is still no loss of life. My mind doesn't work right now, I haven't slept.
That's huge! Says a lot right there. Wow! HolyMoly girl............ what a mess. Like you I'm grateful there are no fatalities yet.......but as with all religious nightmares it might get worse before it gets better. Please keep yourself safe, honey. Yeah - been outside painting a house soooo sorry missed this thread.
You take care of yourself, Shoezer - that's some
scary shit. Guess asking if you can get to an airport is silly of me. Buuut if you can - hop a plane and come visit the Poconos. I'll put the paintbrushes down and we'll keep you safe till your country stops being scary.
(hugs)
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HolyCrap Shoezer
that's horrible
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"QuoteRiot police started using Agent Orange (orange gas in shells)
I am not sure how true is that.
It doesn't sound true. Agent Orange isn't orange gas. It's a solid, and the name comes from the orange barrels it was shipped in. As a means of dispersing a crowd, it's less effective than talcum powder (which will cause you to choke until you cough it out) or water (which can hurt badly - even break bones - if the pressure is high enough). Even smoke from wood or paper fires would work better. The effect of Agent Orange is long-term - cancer and deformed offspring.
I suspect they're using orange-colored smoke.
In any event, stay safe, and lets hope that the police don't kill anyone.
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"Thanks a lot, Bri. I am fine don't worry, I am in a remote place and I am safe. Danger is only in protest squares in cities where it goes on. A lot was needed and we were up helping that. (there is a heavy media censor and in protest areas internet is cut, so a lot needs to be carried away esp. to international level. Also people needs medicinal help, lawyers, fresh information directed to them. So they need every pair of hands available.
If it will go real bad, it will... :( nearly 1000 arrested, but no deaths.
You already made me feel better. I just have a head ache and need to sleep that is all. :heart:
I'm going to ship you some Kava.
PM your address to me. You're going to get some sleep if it's the last thing I ever do. That's crazy..... you haven't been able to sleep in.............fcuk
forever woman.
(hug)
you poor thing --- As a no-sleep, headache sufferer myself --- I hear you say that and I want to fly to your country and deliver some sleepy tea (or maybe we should just drink some wine and laugh till we pass out?)
probably hard to get sleep when your country's at war with itself. *sigh*
Forgive my ramblings.
yanno............................
I worry :Hangman:
Just checkin on you Shoezie - hope you're alright.
oxox
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"Quote from: "Colanth"Quote from: "drunkenshoe"I am not sure how true is that.
It doesn't sound true. Agent Orange isn't orange gas. It's a solid, and the name comes from the orange barrels it was shipped in. As a means of dispersing a crowd, it's less effective than talcum powder (which will cause you to choke until you cough it out) or water (which can hurt badly - even break bones - if the pressure is high enough). Even smoke from wood or paper fires would work better. The effect of Agent Orange is long-term - cancer and deformed offspring.
I suspect they're using orange-colored smoke.
In any event, stay safe, and lets hope that the police don't kill anyone.
Probably. Thank you Colanth.
The orange stuff is pepper spray.
This statement is from a TV appearance by Erdogan - "there is this trouble called twitter now, social media, in my opinion, is the biggest trouble for all societies."
Desperate stuff. He is also railing against peaceful gatherings. True colours showing.
Quote from: "Colanth"Quote from: "drunkenshoe"QuoteRiot police started using Agent Orange (orange gas in shells)
I am not sure how true is that.
It doesn't sound true. Agent Orange isn't orange gas. It's a solid, and the name comes from the orange barrels it was shipped in. As a means of dispersing a crowd, it's less effective than talcum powder (which will cause you to choke until you cough it out) or water (which can hurt badly - even break bones - if the pressure is high enough). Even smoke from wood or paper fires would work better. The effect of Agent Orange is long-term - cancer and deformed offspring.
I suspect they're using orange-colored smoke.
In any event, stay safe, and lets hope that the police don't kill anyone.
Yeah... I don't see it being Agent Orange either. I don't know of any riot procedures that include the use of defoliants (plant killer).
As far as I can tell from several of the pictures, their riot procedures are a bit flawed any way. This will increase the likelihood of injury on both sides.
I liked the picture of the guy reading to the riot policeman. Great stuff.
Stay safe.
Wow. I saw bits and pieces about this in the newspaper, but didn't know it was so large.
Quote from: "Fidel_Castronaut"This statement is from a TV appearance by Erdogan - "there is this trouble called twitter now, social media, in my opinion, is the biggest trouble for all societies."
It used to be that you could keep the press out of your country, and kill all the dissidents you wanted to. Now "the press" is everyone with a cellphone, and you can't keep anything private. Big trouble for "societies" (if those societies are limited to the government).
I am sorry for your current condition shoe. I am sure you will be careful. Keepin a thought on you.
[spoil:eeg54yis]pics would help my thoughts...:)[/spoil:eeg54yis]
keep your head down, and keep us posted.
Yea be careful Shoe.
When will be yall's next election? Will it be soon enough that people will still be pissed off over this or will they have enough time to brush this under the rug and get re-elected next cycle?
Note: That is assuming Turks have as short of political memory as Americans, which I somewhat doubt.
Now Erdogan Wants To Build A Mosque In Taksim Square (//http://www.newenglishreview.org/bloga.cfm/blog_id/49410/Now-Erdogan-Wants-To-Build-A-Mosque-In-Taksim-Square)
Quote"There is now a menace which is called Twitter," Erdogan said. "The best examples of lies can be found there. To me, social media is the worst menace to society."
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"It's a miracle nobody is dead yet, but there are rumours all the time so I cannot say anything for sure. Apparently 1700 people are held.
I don't like to be the bearer of bad news, but there have been casualties. There's 3 dead as of 6/3. One who got hit by a taxi (//http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-turkey-protests-20130603,0,332457.story) and one was shot and another was killed accidentally, allegedly (//http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/06/03/2935828/doctors-group-says-protester-killed.html).
Turkish stock market is taking a plunge
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22750491 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22750491)
More than 3,000 hurt; "unprecedented violence"
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/03/world/eur ... index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/03/world/europe/turkey-protests/index.html)
Turkish solidarity demonstrations across Europe
http://www.euronews.com/2013/06/03/turk ... oss-europe (http://www.euronews.com/2013/06/03/turkish-solidarity-protests-spring-up-across-europe)
Money raised for full front page ad in NY Times
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ju ... k-times-ad (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/03/turkey-new-york-times-ad)
Yow. Shit's gettin' real, Shoe. Keep your head down. The media's finally paying attention.
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"How to extinguish pepper spray capsules. Looks effective. :-D
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10 ... =2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152870243035594&set=vb.810395593&type=2&theater)
Yes. That is a good method to estinguish CS grenades. Getting hit by a 40mm CS round could hurt though. Those guys were standing right in the line of fire.
Also, the police were employing them downwind... If they were trying to deny the area on the other side, then perhaps it's not that odd. But really, I didn't see any crowd activity that warrented the employment of CS. As they use it, and the crowd becomes used to it and comes up with counters, CS would be less effective when it truely is needed.
Found this while surfing twitter hashtags related to this.
http://showdiscontent.com/ (http://showdiscontent.com/)
An individual at the protests recently posted, "Turkish police is right now taking people from their homes due to "tweets they wrote" regarding #occupygezi "
A list of the protestors demands: http://www.dailydot.com/news/occupy-gez ... m-demands/ (http://www.dailydot.com/news/occupy-gezi-turkish-protest-taksim-demands/)
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Civil disobedience is sexy.
Updated report: At least 24 people were arrested in the coastal city of Izmir for encouraging rebellion over social media and tweeting "misleading and libellous information", according to the state-run Anatolia news agency.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/20 ... 42132.html (http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2013/06/20136551212442132.html) Empty apology, unsurprisingly, means zilch.
Be careful MissShoe.. Stay out of pepper spray central. I'd pray for you, but instead I'll go to the dentist for you.. the tooth fairy thing ya know.. ;)
http://a.yfrog.com/img877/2511/26jq.png (http://a.yfrog.com/img877/2511/26jq.png)
The front page ad in the NY Times.
Turkey imported 628 tons of teargas and pepper spray in 12 years – report (//http://www.islamicinvitationturkey.com/2013/06/05/turkey-imported-628-tons-of-teargas-and-pepper-spray-in-12-years-report/)
QuoteTurkey has bought $21 million in tear gas and pepper spray – mainly from US and Brazil – over the past 12 years, Turkish media reported. The US is known for its exports of crowd control munitions to countries rocked by widespread protest.
In total, Turkey imported 628 tons of tear gas and pepper spray between 2000 and 2012, Turkish newspaper Sozcu reported quoting Customs and Trade Minister Hayati Yazici.
Turkey is currently being rocked by its biggest wave of anti-government protests in years. At least three people have been killed and thousands injured from clashes with police since the protests began on Friday. Videos and images have emerged on social media showing police in riot gear firing tear gas, using pepper spray and physically beating demonstrators.
Ankara has been criticized for its mass crackdown on the protests and its widespread use of tear gas and pepper spray to disperse demonstrators.
On Tuesday, the UN's human rights office urged Turkey to conduct an independent probe into how its security forces have treated the anti-government protesters. "We're concerned about reports of excessive use of force by law enforcement officers against protestors in Turkey," UN high commissioner for human rights spokesperson Cecile Pouilly said.
I know I shouldn't really find amusement in this situation (or any like it) given the gravity, but I thoroughly enjoy protest photography and slogans.
Taken from the song "Thrift Shop"
http://instagram.com/p/aJQpAnnig9/# (http://instagram.com/p/aJQpAnnig9/#)
Wishing you all the best drunkenshoe, I hope a better situation comes out of this and those two deaths are not in vain.
I hope these religious nut cases come to their senses and realize their own countrymen and women may not share the same nonsensical beliefs they do and that killing and injuring them only solidifies the hatred toward them..
Yeah, I just saw a lot of people saying that protestors were trapped in a building by a group of government supporters. Cops nowhere to be found, of course.
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"This is the gate of one of the big media channel buildings. They glued money and shouted we'll give whatever your price to air real news" "Media for sale!" It doesn't mean anything in English when put like this probably, but it's a common heavy insult used Turkish. "You are for sale" Meaning, you don't have any value but just money which is again dead on.
It means the same in English as it does in Turkish, Shoe. "You''re for sale" isn't a nice thing to say to anyone in English. About the nicest way it can be taken is to mean "you're a prostitute" (even if said to a man, or about a company).
Hmmm... doesn't seem to me like Erdogan really learned too much. Hopefully people will still be pissed off come election day and that this wasn't all for nothing.
Shoezy, please don't use the "URL" bbcode in any of your posts without adding the description variable.
For example The Description of link (//Facebook.com/xxx)
Otherwise it just stretches out the mobile theme
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"//http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22739423
//http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/31/istanbul-protesters-violent-clashes-police
//http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/31/us-turkey-protests-idUSBRE94U0J920130531
//http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/31/world/meast/istanbul-protests
Some pics from Washington post.
//http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/protests-in-turkey/2013/05/31/b52b2b86-ca19-11e2-9245-773c0123c027_gallery.html#photo=1
Was that so hard. Now this I will post on my page. Go look.
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"Quote from: "Brian37"Quote from: "drunkenshoe"//http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22739423
//http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/31/istanbul-protesters-violent-clashes-police
//http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/31/us-turkey-protests-idUSBRE94U0J920130531
//http://edition.cnn.com/2013/05/31/world/meast/istanbul-protests
Some pics from Washington post.
//http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/protests-in-turkey/2013/05/31/b52b2b86-ca19-11e2-9245-773c0123c027_gallery.html#photo=1
Was that so hard. Now this I will post on my page. Go look.
Oh yeah, this the problem poser. The WESTERN MAIN STREAM MEDIA LINKS I myself posted a few days ago! We can't get them posted IN WESTERN PAGES! WE needed help to post these links BACK TO WESTERN SOCIAL MEDIA!
Everyone thank Brian! Alas, we don't have a thank system right now.
I have a last request, Brian. Please don't share, post anything with/to me. Your FB is already blocked.
Dude, I am not going to start a flame war with you. You are in a very bad position, my beef was only that you asked for my help then didn't want any questions about it.
And now I will explain once again, that video was a MIX of many different events. And I also explained to you that our country HAS had our government and police throughout our history do some horrible things to individuals and protestors here. And I explained to you that outcomes to revolts do not always end up the way we want. And when you create a power vacuum you don't have one faction competing for that power you have many.
And there ARE cases where lagit protestors get duped by other protestors of either different factions or government paid to act like protestors to start fights with police so the government can give an excuse to crack down on it. You posted a very simplistic video with a very complex region you live in with multiple events in it. I do agree that the government is leaning in the wrong direction. But we have that problem here too in many places. We have an obstructionist republican party who gave us a very watered down health care bill despite when you ask most people without politics about health care, they want it as much as me, but because of big money and their slick marketing voters get duped. Those same republicans are doing everything they can to turn the clock back on women's rights.
Despite a majority here, the NRA has the government by the balls despite even NRA members we cant get reasonable gun laws that even most gun owners want. We have had voting rights over ridden in Michigan because of Republican "emergency management" laws they put in place, and use them to raid minority locations do pad tax cuts and pay offs to rich developers.
Now, I probably would react the very same way you are to me because you are in it and I am not. You have it worse certainly, but I think there is a lot you are not considering.
Now despite your country's backslide, what you wanted from me was blind loyalty. But you cannot tell me that every one of your police or military AS INDIVIDUALS or even government officials are all in support of the direction it is going. That would be like accusing me of supporting Bush just because he got elected.
That would like me blaming all police in the entire country here for what happened at UC Davis or for what happened to Rodney King.
Now I told you what the big problem is and that problem IS affecting the entire world. You have wealth, NOT ALL WEALTH but enough that wants instability so that it can make money off the high costs that conflict creates. Just like gun manufactures don't want low crime rates, no crime, no fear, no fear, no ready made solution to sell, less profits.
Oil, Banks and weapons. Global corporatism. Until those monopolies are broken they will create a climate of more poverty and lack of jobs and use ideology to pit us against each other.
Now, this is the last post I will make on this issue.
All I wanted was some back up to that video.
In general, I like when people protest against governments. I am encouraged when people exercise speech in critique of centers of power.
Best wishes to Turks, and RiP for the slain.
Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"In general, I like when people protest against governments. I am encouraged when people exercise speech in critique of centers of power.
Best wishes to Turks, and RiP for the slain.
But what if that population protests to have atheists arrested for blasphemy? Mobs of "protestors" called for the arrest of atheist bloggers in Bangladesh and one was murdered.
Protest is fine, but even in our western society you have different factions seeking power. Be careful what you wish for. We supported Mubarak overthrow hoping for a more secular ruler but got a more right wing ruler. And Jefferson supported the French Revolution but they ended up with Napoleon.
When you deal with a revolution you don't deal with a monochromatic resistance, most of the time you have several different sects working together until the overthrow but that does not mean that which ever sect ends up on top is going to share power equally with those they worked with.
Sadamn successfully won his revolution only to turn around and oppress everyone else. Gadaffi did the same.
I am for a government that protects protest even from dissenters but maintains a pluralistic government. We have republicans and democrats and Jews and atheists and Muslims serving in our congress and even in our military. That is the only way you prevent fascism from taking hold. But it is under threat by global corporatism.
Our fascism today is not of race or religion but of big money. It is easy to keep people divided with shouts of patriotism, and loyalty. It is much harder whoever wins to maintain that pluralism. All power needs money to be maintained, religion, politics and business.
QuoteBut what if that population protests to have atheists arrested for blasphemy? Mobs of "protestors" called for the arrest of atheist bloggers in Bangladesh and one was murdered.
Dude, what?
"IN GENERAL, I like when people protest against governments.".
I think he is smart enough to not be cheering for atheists being arrested. And since that is not the situation in Turkiye, I don't see how it is relevant. They are not calling for the over-throw of the government, they are asking for the government to LISTEN to them.
QuoteAnd Jefferson supported the French Revolution but they ended up with Napoleon.
You say that like that was a bad thing. Compared to rulers of his time, Napoleon was great and a huge improvement over their aristocracy, improving standards of living, equality for minorities and expanding the empire.
:cry: I'm so sorry drunkinshoe that you have to be in that mess. Take care! I wish the best for you and the protestors, and hope everyone gets out alive. I hate politics more than most religions unless they promote hate and make the government a theocracy or fascist. So god dammed sad that we still have this crap in modern times. It literally makes me sick and tired, mad as hell, and frustrated because there's nothing I can do about it. :x "If our tempers don't sustain justice, there never will be any justice." TJ Solitary
Quote from: "Shiranu"QuoteBut what if that population protests to have atheists arrested for blasphemy? Mobs of "protestors" called for the arrest of atheist bloggers in Bangladesh and one was murdered.
Dude, what?
"IN GENERAL, I like when people protest against governments.".
I think he is smart enough to not be cheering for atheists being arrested. And since that is not the situation in Turkiye, I don't see how it is relevant. They are not calling for the over-throw of the government, they are asking for the government to LISTEN to them.
QuoteAnd Jefferson supported the French Revolution but they ended up with Napoleon.
You say that like that was a bad thing. Compared to rulers of his time, Napoleon was great and a huge improvement over their aristocracy, improving standards of living, equality for minorities and expanding the empire.
Problem is they are in a backslide, right now they are not asking for an overthrow, but economically if things get worse for more people, they will.
I hope their government does listen to them just like ours seems to be ignoring the majority of our population too. It pisses me off as to what is so obvious worldwide that people are not getting it.
How is it the stock market booms and corporate profits boom, and all workers get is loss of jobs or get more low paying jobs having to work longer hours for less, if they are lucky enough to have a job.
I am telling you, the same crap that caused the recession is the same thing that caused the Texas factory to explode is the same thing that caused the factory in Bangladesh to explode. It is the same thing that is causing record profits and worse conditions for more of western society in general. Global Corporatism.
Globally our stock market especially big banks and big oil, are the one world government. Workers worldwide have no political power at all. Unless those monopolies are broken, more and more people world wide are going to slide down and get worse.
The lull that distracts us is a short term bubble recovery. It throws crumbs at us, but is nothing more than bad bets and over conflated projections of speculation that lead to a balloon which gets popped and the CEOs skim off the top and dump the losses on the the rest of us.
For things to get better our global economy has to have the ethic of building not just to consume, but to problem solve and improve conditions. It cannot simply be consuming in the interest of solely making a buck.
Just coming by here to check on you Drunkzie and to say Hope you're alright today. Things in your country improving at all by now? (sorry I've not kept up with this the past couple of days. Painting everyday - its finally raining)
What do you think will be the shakedown of all this, hon?
worrying *for* you - not *about* you k? oxox
This guy just totally doesn't get it.
http://blogs.aljazeera.com/topic/turkey ... r-patience (http://blogs.aljazeera.com/topic/turkey-protests/turkish-pm-warns-protesters-there-limit-our-patience)
Not only is he ignoring the problem with the government, he's still going to destroy the park.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/20 ... 15141.html (http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2013/06/201366142328615141.html)
Looks like 10 types of Hell has broken out there.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/20 ... 16696.html (http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2013/06/201361111245916696.html)
Been reading the #OccupyGezi and #WeAreGezi tweets all yesterday and today and the police have just been going absolutely insane, people are getting seriously injured.
QuoteA statement from Mutlu's office said the aim of the intervention was to remove the banners of various groups in the square, which were making it look as though it was under "occupation". This was "negatively affecting our country's image in the eyes of the world opinion and leading to reaction from within the society".
They should stop worrying about how the protesters are "negatively affecting" world opinion, and start worrying about how the government's own actions are making the government look bad to the rest of the world. Most of the rest of the world - the people, if not the various governments - are looking pretty favorably at what the
people of Turkey are doing.
Just checking in to make sure Shoe is still alright.
How's your country today Drunkzie? You ok over there?
oxox
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"Quote from: "PopeyesPappy"Just checking in to make sure Shoe is still alright.
Thank you, PAP. I am OK. I just can't do anything and try not to follow, because I can't sleep or function properly. But it got worse in the last two days.
I know it has. Keep your head down, K?
Quote from: "drunkenshoe"Bri, PAP, I am OK guys thank you so much. Just trying to deal with it. Cannot work for now, I hope I will be back to normal in a few days.
I'll try to swim a little. I cannot do anything entertaining, I feel guilty. People are in resistance there against fucking animals and I cannot do anything.
You'll just have to forgive me this one:
But I'm reminded of a couple of movie lines (from Dragonheart)
Castle guard: "The peasants are revolting!!"
Prince: "They've always
been revolting. But now they're rebelling!"
:rollin:
ok............. got that out of my head.
http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2013/06/watch- ... -istanbul/ (http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2013/06/watch-police-shoot-down-a-drone-flying-over-istanbul/)
http://vimeo.com/68229603 (http://vimeo.com/68229603)
http://vimeo.com/68156381 (http://vimeo.com/68156381)
the updates we're getting here:
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/inte ... index.html (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/turkey/index.html)
Drunken: Erdogan supporters have been saying (I think for awhile now) that they are ready to go out on the streets and "support" Erdogan (I interpret that as clash with the protesters). Does this, from what you have seen, seem like a likely event or are they just talk (if you have any idea)?
I wish I understood Turkish so I could understand a thing they are saying...
That is in Ankara? Look's like a total mess atm.
You don't have a small brain!
The PM seems to have enough support to stay in power right now?
Eight months is a long time to wait until elections :(
For the PM to be talking in terms of final warnings is very dangerous imo, he is staking his reputation and political future on winning a confrontation, please look after yourself drunkenshoe.
Been keeping up with this on the news. Quite disgusting how the protesters have been treated. I hope they get louder and louder as the media over here has started to wane in their reporting of it.
Dunno if this has already been posted:
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Hey woman - I was just wondering about you
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incredible !!!
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Ethem Sar?sülük was a (23 ircc) protester who was shot in the head with some-sort of riot control, and has been in the hospital for brain trauma, who has recently been declared brain dead/dead.
The officer who shot him? Got out on "self-defense" claims.
I don't know how the protests have been lately, haven't heard much about them... but I am SURE this will TOTALLY make it much better... :roll:
Looks like today, peaceful protestors were entering their park again, and riot police showed up with their badge numbers blacked out so they can't later be identified. Right now, AKP supporters as civilians are attacking protestors with machetes and sticks. Ugh.
Shows who the "good" guys are... if you are so secure in your power, why do you feel the need to hide your badge number or assault civilians?
"Turkish cable news. Fail. Again. CNN Turk broadcasts a documentary on construction, NTV on botox, while #occupygezi is on the streets again."
In the interest of fairness, people were saying the news networks were airing the protest, then many others said the men with cleavers started systematically taking down journalists, and now the networks seems to be airing bullshit.
Erdogan insulted everybody's intelligence, claiming the unmarked policemen were "new recruits". Many people think they're just plain clothes policemen, especially since they seem to know many of the uniformed ones awfully well.
Police brutality continues after protesters are arrested, lots of pictures of cops kicking and beating the shit out of people for no reason at all, who are in custody for no reason at all.