Started by CatholicCrusader, July 19, 2014, 04:42:08 PM
Quote from: Poison Tree on July 20, 2014, 02:00:07 AMSince you brought it up, why--according to the bible--was god so willing to kill David's baby (and babies in general) yet--according to your church--so pissed at the concept of using condoms to prevent the spread of HIV/AIDS? On a related note, how can you decry picking and choosing among protestants while picking and choosing among catholic doctrine yourself--such as your expressed views on contraceptives and clerical celibacy--?
Quoteintelligence is defined as â€œthe ability to reason, plan, solve problems, think abstractly, comprehend complex ideas, learn quickly, and learn from experience." This excludes other forms of intelligence, like creative and emotional intelligence.
Quote from: DunkleSeele on July 19, 2014, 04:47:50 PMOh, and I'm NOT your "Brother in Crust".
Quote from: stromboli on July 27, 2014, 01:07:33 AMTheists seem to be not necessarily less intelligent but more caught up in the emotional aspects of belief, not applying critical thinking or looking at objectively or in the abstract; but buying emotionally into the concept without questioning it.
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on July 27, 2014, 03:35:42 AMWell I used to be a catholic. But hey, perhaps many of the things I think the church teaches are wrong. Maybe I've got some of their stances wrong.Not kidding; I wasn't the most biblically-literate catholic and the idea of a pope came across as a bad idea way before I lost my faith. So I didn't listen to him very much. So entirely possible that my information about the church and her stances is lacking. (Likewise there is bound to be a hole in my knowledge regarding Budhism, Protestantism, Mormonism, Islam, HinduÃ¯sm, Janism, ...)But none of that matters to me.What matters to me is if there is anything to back up the claims of the Roman Catholic Church (or any other religion). Anything at all to show there is any truth behind what they say.And there isn't.
Quote from: CatholicCrusader on July 20, 2014, 02:51:21 AM My issue is more with those who are constantly saying the Catholic Church is unbiblical.
Quote from: Mike Cl on September 07, 2014, 05:13:14 PMHello, Joseph--and I can say that you are my human brother, but not in "Christ". BTW, did you not realize that that is a title and not a name? There are in fact thousands of "Christs" out there. I think you meant to refer to Jesus--but the Jesus you were most likely referring to is a myth--ahistorical--made up--not real. You may as well put your faith in the tooth fairy or the easter bunny; both are just as real as your Jesus. You said: not all of my personal beliefs are in line with the church nor do I always understand why the Church teaches what it does. I also have doubts and feelings of rebellion against God and the Bible and the church.Me--Doubts are good. With so much to doubt about any organized religion, much less one with the history of the Catholic Church. Start by investigating the history or your church (use neutral sources and not the official sources for such research). Your doubts will only increase.You said: My issue is more with those who are constantly saying the Catholic Church is unbiblical. Me--To which bible are you referring? There are literally thousands of them and they are all different. Actually, all churches are unbiblical, since none of they follow the bible totally. Not possible.You said: I do not understand why God did alot of what he did in the Old Testament. Me--Yes, hard to fathom. Keep researching that subject.I do have my own personal views on abortion where in many cases I personally see abortion as the lesser of two evils. Yet I still consider it ussually an act of homicide. However I am a sinner and just because I don't understand something I don't declare that I am right and the church is wrong.Most Catholics I know have struggled or continue to struggle very much with the views and decisions of the church Magisterium. I do not consider myself a good Catholic. I have much knowledge of apologetics but that doesn't mean I don't blaspheme or doubt my faith. In fact in these last two months my faith has suffered more than it has in the last 7 years.You said: But either way I strongly believe that the Catholic Church will endure forever. Me--Forever is a long time. It has lasted 2,000 years, more or less. But if human society can continue to to use reason and logic to solve problems, then the Catholic church will not endure. The history of atheism is relatively short--when it has 2000 years under its belt, I am sure churches will be a history that is read and chuckled at.
Quote from: Mike Cl on September 07, 2014, 07:19:43 PMThe Catholic Crusader identified himself as 'Joseph'--so I was addressing him.