Did Jesus ever exist?

[Cavebear]

I think the first deities that came along were the result of people watching the sky and trying to remember when various stars and groups of stars would rise/set. This is called astro-theology.

I suspect religion was caused more by humans seeking explanations without evidence.  As we became more evidential, religion became more vague and non-evidential.  Eventually, religion will fade away.

[Baruch]

I suspect religion was caused more by humans seeking explanations without evidence.  As we became more evidential, religion became more vague and non-evidential.  Eventually, religion will fade away.

That is what Jefferson claimed, 200 years ago.  Genius.

[popsthebuilder]

I suspect religion was caused more by humans seeking explanations without evidence.  As we became more evidential, religion became more vague and non-evidential.  Eventually, religion will fade away.

Keep wishing.

faith in selfless unity for good

[Baruch]

Keep wishing.

faith in selfless unity for good

Evangelical geekdom wants everyone to enjoy geekdom like they do ;-)

[popsthebuilder]

The further science progresses and information abounds the more logical a first cause becomes.

My very simple opinion

faith in selfless unity for good

[Baruch]

Posting is all about us editorializing our own neuroses in public.  I love it.

[Mike Cl]

Keep wishing.

faith in selfless unity for good

You are the one who has to rely on wishes for your proof.

[popsthebuilder]

You are the one who has to rely on wishes for your proof.

Nonsense; my proof is self evident and indisputable for me.

faith in selfless unity for good

[Blackleaf]

Nonsense; my proof is self evident and indisputable for me.

faith in selfless unity for good

Yes. For you. It is not self-evident for people not programmed to believe in gods. Wishful thinking is not proof. Claiming something as "self-evident" is just an excuse to provide no verifiable evidence. And please stop responding to intelligent responses with "nonsense" when all you have is nonsense to follow with.

[Mike Cl]

Nonsense; my proof is self evident and indisputable for me.

faith in selfless unity for good

Ah, yes.  "...for me.", being the key words.  We all realize that--you have constructed your own universe in which you live.  And within that universe, wishes have power as does belief.  And you get to define what facts are and how they provide the foundation for your system.  And it all works great for you.  For me, none of that works.  Your crutches don't work for me.  It's not nonsense for you, but it sure is for me!

[fencerider]

faith in selfless unity for good

do you mind explaining what this means? in English?

[popsthebuilder]

do you mind explaining what this means? in English?

To believe and act through deed and word selflessly and with altruism actively, putting active thought of it throughout your daily processes and potentials. Past that it is belief that if all were to attain to such it would unify life and the two together would be wholly good for literally all.

faith in selfless unity for good

[popsthebuilder]

Ah, yes.  "...for me.", being the key words.  We all realize that--you have constructed your own universe in which you live.  And within that universe, wishes have power as does belief.  And you get to define what facts are and how they provide the foundation for your system.  And it all works great for you.  For me, none of that works.  Your crutches don't work for me.  It's not nonsense for you, but it sure is for me!

No crutch friend. Motivation to actually do what one knows to be right and good regardless of personal circumstances or rather personal benefit.

You can say you don't agree with a thing without attempted insult and degradation of the foundation of ones very core beliefs....But you know that already.



faith in selfless unity for good

[aitm]

Nonsense; my proof is self evident and indisputable for me.

Donald? Is that you?

[popsthebuilder]

Yes. For you. It is not self-evident for people not programmed to believe in gods. Wishful thinking is not proof. Claiming something as "self-evident" is just an excuse to provide no verifiable evidence. And please stop responding to intelligent responses with "nonsense" when all you have is nonsense to follow with.

News flash dumbass; I wasn't programmed to believe in a god.

I was fucking atheist from early childhood to my late 20s. K?

If you can't understand that a thing can be proven to you, yet you may not have the capacity to prove it to others, then that is your own broke ass logic, not mine

faith in selfless unity for good