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Title: what do you guys understand from the phrase ''political actor''?
Post by: SoldierofFortune on January 27, 2016, 02:44:21 AM
yes...what?

i searched the forum but it's odd that nobody had used the words political and actor together...

Title: Re: what do you guys understand from the phrase ''political actor''?
Post by: pr126 on January 27, 2016, 05:07:22 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_actor-politicians#USA

Title: Re: what do you guys understand from the phrase ''political actor''?
Post by: SoldierofFortune on January 27, 2016, 05:22:40 AM
Quote from: pr126 on January 27, 2016, 05:07:22 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_actor-politicians#USA

no...not actor politicians...i'm talking about political actors...but if you ask them...they would be in denial for sure; this is the inherent nature of being political actor: )
Title: Re: what do you guys understand from the phrase ''political actor''?
Post by: Baruch on January 27, 2016, 06:37:02 AM
A political actor is anyone who take political action.  Like a voter, voting.  A legislator legislating.  These are all variants of a shitter shitting.
Title: Re: what do you guys understand from the phrase ''political actor''?
Post by: SoldierofFortune on January 27, 2016, 07:07:55 AM
Quote from: Baruch on January 27, 2016, 06:37:02 AM
A political actor is anyone who take political action.  Like a voter, voting.  A legislator legislating.  These are all variants of a shitter shitting.

the meaning of the word ''actor'' is obvious...an actor is given a scenario to play their role...so, the meaning of the political actor must be understood in this way...political actors are dictated by ''unknown'' power and are therefore free to some extent...

Title: Re: what do you guys understand from the phrase ''political actor''?
Post by: Baruch on January 27, 2016, 07:13:49 AM
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on January 27, 2016, 07:07:55 AM
the meaning of the word ''actor'' is obvious...an actor is given a scenario to play their role...so, the meaning of the political actor must be understood in this way...political actors are dictated by ''unknown'' power and are therefore free to some extent...

Not the way I took it.  Every human is an actor as in ... Hollywood.  But I took "actor" as in "taking action" vs "passive".  An inactive voter is not a political actor.  Normal grammar, would put "political actor" in the same bucket as Ronald Reagan ... because "political" precedes "actor".

Your specific meaning, is also accurate.  Of course politicians have free will, and of course they are beholden to their funds providers.  This is only confusing, if you believe in the total propaganda of Civics 101.
Title: Re: what do you guys understand from the phrase ''political actor''?
Post by: SoldierofFortune on January 27, 2016, 07:42:48 AM
Quote from: Baruch on January 27, 2016, 07:13:49 AM
Not the way I took it.  Every human is an actor as in ... Hollywood.  But I took "actor" as in "taking action" vs "passive".  An inactive voter is not a political actor.  Normal grammar, would put "political actor" in the same bucket as Ronald Reagan ... because "political" precedes "actor".

Your specific meaning, is also accurate.  Of course politicians have free will, and of course they are beholden to their funds providers.  This is only confusing, if you believe in the total propaganda of Civics 101.

of course political actors are taking action to do what they are told to do as public faces of whoever their funds providers are...

whatever...i am totaly convinced that obama is a political actor...for god's sake...how can a black person be a president of the usa...think about it...his slogan is ''change'' that means coins :D
Title: Re: what do you guys understand from the phrase ''political actor''?
Post by: Baruch on January 27, 2016, 12:50:57 PM
Obama's actions seem contrary to his rhetoric ... but that is normal with politicians.  He seems to be a lost experiment out of some CIA laboratory.
Title: Re: what do you guys understand from the phrase ''political actor''?
Post by: SoldierofFortune on January 27, 2016, 08:41:52 PM
yeah yeah...

most of the americans -even intellectuals- are so ignorant of what is going on in the world and even in their own country...
Title: Re: what do you guys understand from the phrase ''political actor''?
Post by: TomFoolery on January 27, 2016, 09:05:28 PM
Am I the only one who immediately thought of Moon Over Parador?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095654/
QuoteLittle known actor, Jack Noah, is working on location in the dictatorship of Parador at the time the dictator dies. The dictator's right hand man, Roberto, makes Jack an offer he cannot refuse.. to play the dictator. Jack's acting skills fool the masses but not close friends and employees of the dictator.
Title: Re: what do you guys understand from the phrase ''political actor''?
Post by: SoldierofFortune on January 27, 2016, 09:18:11 PM
Quote from: TomFoolery on January 27, 2016, 09:05:28 PM
Am I the only one who immediately thought of Moon Over Parador?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095654/

oo that reminded me a movie filmed in turkey that resembles each other very much...the outline of the scenario is almost the same.

https://www.google.com.tr/search?q=%C5%9Fans+kap%C4%B1y%C4%B1+k%C4%B1r%C4%B1nca&biw=1366&bih=677&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0ahUKEwjKoMWyt8vKAhUHNxQKHaLRDBwQ_AUIBygC#imgrc=wgBIWa83PDQYWM%3A
Title: Re: what do you guys understand from the phrase ''political actor''?
Post by: Baruch on January 28, 2016, 05:07:13 AM
CIA all the way down ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HRUEqyZ7p8

What Would CIA Do ... WWCD
Title: Re: what do you guys understand from the phrase ''political actor''?
Post by: Sal1981 on January 28, 2016, 11:19:40 AM
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on January 27, 2016, 02:44:21 AM
yes...what?

i searched the forum but it's odd that nobody had used the words political and actor together...


Sean Penn comes to mind ...