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Will Putin Invade Ukraine?

Started by Cassia, January 20, 2022, 01:29:34 PM

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Hydra009

Dictator Putin lapdog Shoygu made some calls to try to justify unprovoked Russian  aggression and to threaten Allied countries into capitulation.  It didn't go so well.


Hydra009

Russian forces were pushed back around Bakhmut, reversing months of very, very slow Russian advances.  It's still a tense situation, but it's no longer on the verge of being overrun.

Cassia

Russia and some US lawmakers talking about a ceasefire. Seems to me Putin just needs peace so as to regroup for the next offensive.

Hydra009

Quote from: Cassia on October 25, 2022, 08:39:25 AMRussia and some US lawmakers talking about a ceasefire. Seems to me Putin just needs peace so as to regroup for the next offensive.
Are you referring to this letter from progressives to Pres Biden?


Hydra009

US considers sending HAWK anti-air technology to Ukraine

Probably would've been a good idea to send that months ago, imo.

Hydra009


Cassia

Quote from: Hydra009 on October 25, 2022, 02:14:33 PMAre you referring to this letter from progressives to Pres Biden?
Ah, it was all just a little mistake, LOL. Trusting Putin would be a big mistake. It's hard to calculate the damage to Russia because everyone knows you can't negotiate with Putin.


ferdmonger

The thought of Ukraine using a dirty bomb is ludicrous on its face.  Why in the world would anyone poison their own soil.

PopeyesPappy

Quote from: Hydra009 on October 25, 2022, 02:33:27 PMUS considers sending HAWK anti-air technology to Ukraine

Probably would've been a good idea to send that months ago, imo.

Our Hawk stuff may be more trouble than it is worth. The US hasn't fielded any Hawk systems since 2002 when the Marines retired theirs. Anything we send them will have have been sitting in storage for at least 20 years. Some of it a lot longer than that. This stuff isn't like small arms ammo either. The solid fuel motors have expiration dates so the missiles may or may not work at all. The electronics dates to the 80's or earlier. Getting the radars to work after that long is going to be problematic at best.

Having said that, Spain was supposed to send them a handful of Hawk systems a couple of months ago. I believe Some Ukrainians are already getting some training. If they can get the Spanish systems to work they may be able to use some of what we send to supplement those systems.

Hawk actually has a proven combat record though. Iran used them to shoot down a bunch of Iraqi plans in the Iran-Iraq war. We used them with limited success in the first Gulf war. But that was in combination with other systems. A handful of Hawk units operating without support may just be a death trap for the crews. The Turks deployed a few systems to Syria in 2020. Those systems were destroyed in an air attack because there weren't enough of them to defend themselves.
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Hydra009

Shifting narrative: Russia ditches "denazification" and goes with "desatanization"

Apparently, the whole nazi angle was ridiculous on its face, especially with Wagner in the mix.  And terrorRussia is increasingly relying on fellow Axis powers Syria and Iran, so it needs to paint Ukraine as the "Great Satan" to motivate them.

Hydra009


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