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Title: Christianity Versus Science
Post by: josephpalazzo on November 24, 2013, 10:28:56 AM
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Title: Re: Christianity Versus Science
Post by: leo on November 24, 2013, 10:32:00 AM
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Spot on . This guy is one of the most disgusting humans beings on the planet . :evil:
Title: Re: Christianity Versus Science
Post by: josephpalazzo on November 24, 2013, 10:46:28 AM
Quote from: "leo"This guy is one of the most disgusting humans beings on the planet . :evil:

Be careful, this guy is in direct communication with the Lawrd. His timely predictions are, ho-hum, well... let the record speaks for itself:

Quote1982: Doomsday
 
In late 1976, Robertson predicted that the end of the world was coming in October or November 1982. In a May 1980 broadcast of The 700 Club he stated, "I guarantee you by the end of 1982 there is going to be a judgment on the world."
 
In September 2011, Robertson and several others who incorrectly predicted various dates for the end of world were jointly awarded an Ig Nobel Prize for "teaching the world to be careful when making mathematical assumptions and calculations".
 
2004: Bush landslide
 
In January 2004, Robertson said that God told him President Bush will be re-elected in a "blowout" in November. "I think George Bush is going to win in a walk", Robertson told viewers of his "700 Club" program. "I really believe I'm hearing from the Lord it's going to be like a blowout election in 2004. It's shaping up that way." Bush did in fact win re-election, but not in a landslide. The 2004 race between Bush and Kerry was one of the closest large elections in history.
 
2006: Pacific Northwestern tsunami
 
In May 2006, Robertson declared that storms and possibly a tsunami would hit America's coastline sometime in 2006. Robertson supposedly received this revelation from God during an annual personal prayer retreat in January. The claim was repeated four times on The 700 Club.
 
On May 8, 2006, Robertson said, "If I heard the Lord right about 2006, the coasts of America will be lashed by storms." On May 17, 2006, he elaborated, "There well may be something as bad as a tsunami in the Pacific Northwest." While this claim didn't garner the same level of controversy as some of his other statements, it was generally received with mild amusement by the Pacific Northwest media. The History Channel's initial airing of its new series, Mega Disasters, debut episode "West Coast Tsunami", was broadcast the first week of May.
 
2007: Terror attack
 
On the January 2, 2007, broadcast of The 700 Club, Robertson said that God spoke to him and told him that "mass killings" were to come during 2007, due to a terrorist attack on the United States. He added, "The Lord didn't say nuclear. But I do believe it will be something like that."[74] When a terrorist attack failed to happen in 2007, Robertson said, in January 2008, "All I can think is that somehow the people of God prayed and God in his mercy spared us."
 
2008: Worldwide violence and American recession
 
On the January 2, 2008 episode of The 700 Club, Pat Robertson predicted that 2008 would be a year of worldwide violence. He also predicted that a recession would occur in the United States that would be followed by a stock market crash by 2010. However, there was a decrease in overall deaths for the period, and the American economy had already entered a recession in 2007, with increased household debt and the collapse of financial institutions.
 
2008: Mideast meltdown
 
In October 2008, Robertson posted a press release on the Georgian conflict speculating that the conflict is a Russian ploy to enter the Middle East, and that instability caused by a predicted pre-emptive strike by Israel on Iran would result in Syria's and Iran's launching nuclear strikes on other targets. He also said that if the United States were to oppose Russia's expansion, nuclear strikes on American soil are also pending. "We will suffer grave economic damage, but will not engage in military action to stop the conflict. However, we may not be spared nuclear strikes against coastal cities. In conclusion, it is my opinion that we have between 75 and 120 days before the Middle East starts spinning out of control."
 
2009: Economic chaos and recovery
 
On the January 1, 2009 broadcast of The 700 Club, Robertson said, "If I'm hearing [God] right, gold will go to about $1900 an ounce and oil to $300 a barrel." He also suggested that Americans would broadly accept socialism. Despite these predictions, he also said that economically "things are getting ready to turn around."
 
2012: Presidential election
 
On January 4, 2012, Robertson reported that God had spoken to him and he "thinks He showed me the next president" but wouldn't name who it is. He did give an indication that it wouldn't be President Obama since Robertson said God told him Obama's views were at "odds with the majority", but left some room for interpretation had the 2012 election expanded beyond a two-person race.
Title: Re: Christianity Versus Science
Post by: AtheTurk on November 24, 2013, 11:02:48 AM
Christianity Versus Science is out of classification. they can't be compared. because teologist have absolut realities that can't be questioning. they are holy! but in science everything is questionable and falsification. science can be improved as accumulating. old theory can be leaved. but religions base on no doubt-dogma realities. they wants to explain the cosmos, the earth and the life, humanity and finally smart and genios homo sapiens sapiens. however, it's biggest unsuccessful fiasco that the people remember with old mithologies about old ages. science foreva! :)

of course we don't forget pholosophy. science is noe enough.

so a religion and science is 2 different area. they canT be compared.
Title: Re: Christianity Versus Science
Post by: PickelledEggs on November 24, 2013, 12:13:33 PM
Pat Robertson can take a long walk on a short pier for all I care.
Title: Re: Christianity Versus Science
Post by: Eve on November 24, 2013, 01:56:40 PM
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this is really funny. I love this. And it is true. :-D
Title: Re: Christianity Versus Science
Post by: Solitary on November 24, 2013, 03:04:35 PM
Quotethis is really funny. I love this. And it is true.

 :-$  Eve don't say that! It may be a reflection on Joseph Smith too.  :roll:  Solitary
Title: Re: Christianity Versus Science
Post by: leo on November 24, 2013, 03:20:57 PM
Joseph Smith is one of the biggest scam  artists of all time.
Title: Re: Christianity Versus Science
Post by: stromboli on November 24, 2013, 03:29:55 PM
Quote from: "PickelledEggs"Pat Robertson can take a long walk on a short pier for all I care.

I know a couple of thousand foot drop short walks I can refer him to.  :-D

(edit) Oh, and don't forget, each of these prophecies also included a "send money" message.
Title: Re: Christianity Versus Science
Post by: PickelledEggs on November 24, 2013, 03:29:59 PM
Quote from: "leo"Joseph Smith is one of the biggest scam  artists of all time.
He better not be. What am I going to do with all my magic underwear?
Title: Re: Christianity Versus Science
Post by: stromboli on November 24, 2013, 03:34:24 PM
Quote from: "PickelledEggs"
Quote from: "leo"Joseph Smith is one of the biggest scam  artists of all time.
He better not be. What am I going to do with all my magic underwear?

Go camping. Cut the garments up into 2 inch by 4 inch sections, wrap in some dryer lint and tie it up with a piece of string, and you have some excellent fire starters. I ran out of garment material some time ago, and use Bible pages now.
Title: Re: Christianity Versus Science
Post by: PickelledEggs on November 24, 2013, 03:40:29 PM
Quote from: "stromboli"Go camping. Cut the garments up into 2 inch by 4 inch sections, wrap in some dryer lint and tie it up with a piece of string, and you have some excellent fire starters. I ran out of garment material some time ago, and use Bible pages now.
I like that you think outside the box, stromboli. I'm not one for outdoors, but I think I can cut them in to nice little toilet wipes. I would use the pages of the gospel, but they're already full of crap and I don't think they can take any more in. Plus the paper fibers are too rough.
Title: Re: Christianity Versus Science
Post by: mauricio on November 24, 2013, 03:55:12 PM
Quote from: "PickelledEggs"
Quote from: "stromboli"Go camping. Cut the garments up into 2 inch by 4 inch sections, wrap in some dryer lint and tie it up with a piece of string, and you have some excellent fire starters. I ran out of garment material some time ago, and use Bible pages now.
I like that you think outside the box, stromboli. I'm not one for outdoors, but I think I can cut them in to nice little toilet wipes. I would use the pages of the gospel, but they're already full of crap and I don't think they can take any more in. Plus the paper fibers are too rough.

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Title: Re: Christianity Versus Science
Post by: Eve on November 24, 2013, 08:27:29 PM
Quote from: "Solitary"
Quotethis is really funny. I love this. And it is true.

 :-$  Eve don't say that! It may be a reflection on Joseph Smith too.  :roll:  Solitary
He never said anything like this.
Title: Re: Christianity Versus Science
Post by: Solitary on November 24, 2013, 11:36:35 PM
Quote from: "Eve"
Quote from: "Solitary"
Quotethis is really funny. I love this. And it is true.

 :-$  Eve don't say that! It may be a reflection on Joseph Smith too.  :roll:  Solitary
He never said anything like this.

Enlighten us on what he did say Eve!  #-o  :popcorn:  Solitary
Title: Re: Christianity Versus Science
Post by: PghPanther on November 25, 2013, 12:18:15 PM
Since the implementation of the scientific method as a process for humans to understand our nature and the environment of our existence about 500 years ago.......it has become the dominant world view of our society because it works..........

There has been nothing that attributes any supernatural agency being demonstrated as existing let alone working in society.

As a result the ignorance of the faith based position is becoming increasingly irrelevant.

Science has no goal or purpose to disregard religion.............only that it is not demonstrable within the natural world that science conducts their methodology..........

However, science is so successful and in contrast with faith........it is those who hold such faith based world views that are attacking science..........

Science is too busy finding out what nature reveals to us through the scientific method to ever concern itself with claims that are not testable.

If miracles were real then science wouldn't work at all.......because you cannot have arbitrary intervention from any supernatural agency and maintain the consistency and predictability of science.

Like the theory of gravity.................anyone doubt it works?

But walking on water violates it..............how come we can't confirm that really happened from ancient stories when all the evidence shows gravity is never suspended from any supernatural agency.................