It seems our solar system may have another planet with the equivalent of 10 Earth masses in a highly elliptical orbit 10 to 20 thousand year orbit way out past ex-planet Pluto.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/21/science/space/ninth-planet-solar-system-beyond-pluto.html?_r=0
They never mentioned it in Star Trek, and I'm sure they would have seen it up there, so I'm going to have to conclude that it doesn't exist.
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That might explain the disruption of the Oort Cloud.
Ozone is destroying the Ort Cloud.
Quote from: SGOS on January 20, 2016, 07:09:28 PM
Ozone is destroying the Ort Cloud.
Nah, illegal immigrants doin' that. We need to build a wall.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 20, 2016, 07:15:37 PM
Nah, illegal immigrants doin' that. We need to build a wall.
They have them on sale down at Wall-Mart ;-)
The important thing here, ladies and gentlemen, is how this influences astrological horoscope-readings.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 20, 2016, 04:49:30 PM
It seems our solar system may have another planet with the equivalent of 10 Earth masses in a highly elliptical orbit 10 to 20 thousand year orbit way out past ex-planet Pluto.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/21/science/space/ninth-planet-solar-system-beyond-pluto.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/21/science/space/ninth-planet-solar-system-beyond-pluto.html?_r=0)
Great story, thanks.
Here's an illustration of its possible orbit, and its size relative to the solar system:
http://www.sciencemag.org/sites/default/files/styles/inline_colwidth__4_3/public/images/Orbits_1280_PlanetX2.jpg?itok=1wE6ahlP (http://www.sciencemag.org/sites/default/files/styles/inline_colwidth__4_3/public/images/Orbits_1280_PlanetX2.jpg?itok=1wE6ahlP)
That's no planet... that's a space station...
Very interesting theory though. I hope they locate it. I bet this kind of thing frustrates the hell out of the science-hating zealots.
Cool, a possible tenth planet after the nine known ones.
Dammit, Janet, Pluto's a planet.
Quote from: Atheon on January 20, 2016, 10:48:05 PM
Dammit, Janet, Pluto's a planet.
Hear, Hear! This latest nonsense about Pluto is pure sensationalism.
Quote from: SGOS on January 21, 2016, 05:08:19 AM
Hear, Hear! This latest nonsense about Pluto is pure sensationalism.
So first they disown Pluto which has been a planet since I was born and then cough up a "probable" substitute to replace it? Sorry, ain't buying it. I'll believe it when they provide evidence it exists.
Quote from: stromboli on January 21, 2016, 09:24:29 AM
So first they disown Pluto which has been a planet since I was born
It was also the most loveable planet.
Quote from: stromboli on January 21, 2016, 09:24:29 AM
So first they disown Pluto which has been a planet since I was born and then cough up a "probable" substitute to replace it? Sorry, ain't buying it. I'll believe it when they provide evidence it exists.
They have evidence that it exists now in the form of the gravitational effects it exerts on other objects. It has cleared it's orbital area. That's one of the requirements for an object to meet the current definition of planet. That's not the same as direct observation, but it is some of the same kind of evidence we have for the existence of dark matter or the super massive black hole at the heart of our galaxy.
Here is the image that Joseph linked earlier.
(http://www.sciencemag.org/sites/default/files/styles/inline_colwidth__4_3/public/images/Orbits_1280_PlanetX2.jpg?itok=1wE6ahlP)
Thank you, but to me it is still plan 9+1 from outer space.
Or a rogue planet in the Rukbat system. In which case we should be worried about organic matter eating mycorrhizoid spore raining down on us when planet X nears its perihelion sometime in the next several thousand years.
If they confirm, just the fact that it's not in the bible, it will make those from the religious right cringe all over, and just that alone, is worth the price...
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 21, 2016, 10:46:15 AM
Or a rogue planet in the Rukbat system. In which case we should be worried about organic matter eating mycorrhizoid spore raining down on us when planet X nears its perihelion sometime in the next several thousand years.
Yes in the next several thousand years after my 14th reincarnation I will sweat that.
QuoteIf they confirm, just the fact that it's not in the bible, it will make those from the religious right cringe all over, and just that alone, is worth the price...
Possibly, but when it comes to blatantly ignoring the facts, they are the masters.
Quote from: josephpalazzo on January 21, 2016, 10:47:08 AM
If they confirm, just the fact that it's not in the bible, it will make those from the religious right cringe all over, and just that alone, is worth the price...
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Quote from: stromboli on January 21, 2016, 10:56:08 AM
Yes in the next several thousand years after my 14th reincarnation I will sweat that.
It's not something for you to personally worry about, but you decedents probably should if they haven't genetically engineered telepathic fire breathing dragons they can ride into the sky to fight the evil threads before they hit the ground by then.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 21, 2016, 04:55:40 PM
It's not something for you to personally worry about, but you decedents probably should if they haven't genetically engineered telepathic fire breathing dragons they can ride into the sky to fight the evil threads before they hit the ground by then.
I expect by then this planet will be a sea of toxic waste or worse.
Probably frozen solid. It may eventually be handy for whatever material it's composed of. It'll be a very long time before that can happen, though.
Quote from: josephpalazzo on January 21, 2016, 10:47:08 AM
If they confirm, just the fact that it's not in the bible, it will make those from the religious right cringe all over, and just that alone, is worth the price...
They cringed after the moons of Jupiter were discovered, but eventually got over it ;-)
Found that on the net - did not do the calculations - about this planet if Voyager1 would reach it;
"...the media says this planet orbits at 20x the distance to Uranus. Uranus has a 20 AU orbital radius, so that puts the planet at a 400 AU distance. Voyager 1 is currently at a distance of about 135 AU out, and traveling at about 17 km/s. To travel another 265 AU at this rate, it will arrive at the planet's predicted orbital radius in 74 years."
Huh, in 74 years, I'll be dead by then...
Quote from: josephpalazzo on January 22, 2016, 11:34:20 AM
Found that on the net - did not do the calculations - about this planet if Voyager1 would reach it;
"...the media says this planet orbits at 20x the distance to Uranus. Uranus has a 20 AU orbital radius, so that puts the planet at a 400 AU distance. Voyager 1 is currently at a distance of about 135 AU out, and traveling at about 17 km/s. To travel another 265 AU at this rate, it will arrive at the planet's predicted orbital radius in 74 years."
Huh, in 74 years, I'll be dead by then...
But I'll still be thinking of you.
Quote from: josephpalazzo on January 22, 2016, 11:34:20 AM
To travel another 265 AU at this rate, it will arrive at the planet's predicted orbital radius in 74 years."
Chances are the planet will be at the other side of it's orbit. Thankfully, Voyager is not likely to crash on it. So, we're good.
Quote from: SGOS on January 22, 2016, 12:15:15 PM
Chances are the planet will be at the other side of it's orbit. Thankfully, Voyager is not likely to crash on it. So, we're good.
But there's more than one object out there, and I doubt we'll find all the big ones any time soon. If V'ger suddenly goes silent we would have one place to look.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on January 22, 2016, 12:22:29 PM
But there's more than one object out there, and I doubt we'll find all the big ones any time soon. If V'ger suddenly goes silent we would have one place to look.
The giant robot ship that wanted to digitize all the carbon life forms ;-(
Quote from: Baruch on January 22, 2016, 12:43:39 PM
The giant robot ship that wanted to digitize all the carbon life forms ;-(
"It's over 20 AUs across!"
And then it goes into orbit around Earth.
Quote from: SGOS on January 22, 2016, 12:15:15 PM
Chances are the planet will be at the other side of it's orbit. Thankfully, Voyager is not likely to crash on it. So, we're good.
The orbit is estimated to be 10 to 20 thousand years so in 74 it won't have gone far.
Is Voyager even headed in that direction?
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 22, 2016, 12:49:27 PM
The orbit is estimated to be 10 to 20 thousand years so in 74 it won't have gone far.
Is Voyager even headed in that direction?
I don't think so. Those calculations were done in the what-if V1 is going towards planet X.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on January 21, 2016, 10:12:49 AM
They have evidence that it exists now in the form of the gravitational effects it exerts on other objects. It has cleared it's orbital area. That's one of the requirements for an object to meet the current definition of planet. That's not the same as direct observation, but it is some of the same kind of evidence we have for the existence of dark matter or the super massive black hole at the heart of our galaxy.
Here is the image that Joseph linked earlier.
(http://www.sciencemag.org/sites/default/files/styles/inline_colwidth__4_3/public/images/Orbits_1280_PlanetX2.jpg?itok=1wE6ahlP)
Are they suggesting this thing makes it almost all the way to the orbit of Jupiter? Wow.
I expect by the time it gets near again, we'll be able to go get it for use as building material. It'll let us make the Dyson sphere a bit thicker.
No, that's an inset. According to the diagram, planet X doesn't even get as close as the Kuiper belt. Otherwise, the diagram doesn't make a lick of sense.
Quote from: Hakurei Reimu on January 22, 2016, 10:52:37 PM
No, that's an inset. According to the diagram, planet X doesn't even get as close as the Kuiper belt. Otherwise, the diagram doesn't make a lick of sense.
Typical visual propaganda directed against the visually challenged.
Quote from: Nonsensei on January 22, 2016, 06:58:05 PM
Are they suggesting this thing makes it almost all the way to the orbit of Jupiter? Wow.
The closest it would come would be Neptune’s edge at about 30 AU. (30 x 1.5 x 10
11m)...small chance of a collision.
How long until folks start calling it Nibiru?
Secretly a Warsie.
If Trump becomes president he'll probably insist on calling it Trump.