Started by randomvim, September 11, 2016, 03:14:56 AM
Quote from: randomvim on March 06, 2017, 11:47:23 AM1. You sound like you speak about the americas slavery? Spain and Portugal stopped their part of slavery (though some may have continued despite) due to religious intervention.
Quote from: randomvim on March 06, 2017, 11:47:23 AMEconomics? war in US was because of economics but e.c.o. didnt halter slavery. souths economy relied on it. Thats how they climbed and stayed as influencial as they were.
Quote from: randomvim on March 06, 2017, 11:47:23 AM2. Philosophy doesnt need to be religious but it does or can help develop religious thought and following.
Quote from: randomvim on March 05, 2017, 12:43:50 PMwhat about natural human curiosity about the universe and spirit?
Quote from: randomvim on March 05, 2017, 12:43:50 PMaccording to some on this thread, athiesm refers to both ideas of no god exist to not knowing if god exist. Is that how you use it?what about natural human curiosity about the universe and spirit?Sent from my LG-K330 using Tapatalk
Quote from: Cavebear on March 08, 2017, 08:00:34 AM"Atheism" is pretty much "forget it, no deity". The uncertainty idea is more "agnostic", as I understand it.
Quote from: SGOS on January 26, 2017, 10:53:43 AMWhen I was first formally introduced to mythology, I was impressed at how much of that resembled my own religion. Think about it. They each look the same, with hardly a nuance of difference between them, but one is considered to be the truth and the light, while the other is clearly understood to be bullshit. That seemed like food for thought when I noticed it.
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 08, 2017, 11:28:36 AMAgnosticism is colloquially used to indicate uncertainty regarding the existence of god or a "fence-sitting" position between atheism and theism.But formally, agnosticism is a position regarding knowledge. Who actually knows for a fact that a god exists or doesn't exist and how could they possibly know that? Agnosticism is a position that humans lack the knowledge to determine whether or not god exists. Taken further, strong agnosticism is the position that such a thing is inherently impossible to know (how could you go about verifying the claim that a god exists? Or tell the difference between a genuine god and an imposter?)I really wish the colloquial version and the formal versions of agnosticism had different names, because one gets confused for the other on a regular basis.
Quote from: Ro3bert on March 11, 2017, 07:23:06 PMI have moved on from atheism to apatheism. The whole argument is impossible. I neither believe nor disbelieve and don't care either way. From Wikipedia: "An apatheist is someone who is not interested in accepting or rejecting any claims that gods exist or do not exist. An apatheist may thus decide to live as if there are no gods. The existence of god(s) is not rejected, but may be designated irrelevant." That is my position especially the "irrelevant" part.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apatheism
Quote from: Sorginak on March 11, 2017, 07:24:22 PMSo you're an agnostic.
Quote from: Baruch on March 11, 2017, 11:38:59 PMHe is an agnostic who doesn't care. Are there agnostics who do care?
Quote from: randomvim on September 11, 2016, 03:14:56 AMfollow up questions may follow.
Quote from: Sorginak on March 11, 2017, 07:21:08 PMAgnosticism is fence sitting.
Quote from: Sorginak on March 11, 2017, 07:21:08 PMIt is not about obtaining knowledge.
QuoteAgnosticism is of the essence of science, whether ancient or modern. It simply means that a man shall not say he knows or believes that which he has no scientific grounds for professing to know or believe. Consequently, agnosticism puts aside not only the greater part of popular theology, but also the greater part of anti-theology. On the whole, the "bosh" of heterodoxy is more offensive to me than that of orthodoxy, because heterodoxy professes to be guided by reason and science, and orthodoxy does not.â€"â€‰Thomas Henry Huxley
QuoteAgnosticism, in fact, is not a creed, but a method, the essence of which lies in the rigorous application of a single principle ... Positively the principle may be expressed: In matters of the intellect, follow your reason as far as it will take you, without regard to any other consideration. And negatively: In matters of the intellect do not pretend that conclusions are certain which are not demonstrated or demonstrable.â€"â€‰Thomas Henry Huxley
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 12, 2017, 08:28:42 AMBut religion is not about science.