The Harmful Effects of Masturbation

[SGOS]

If masturbating was unhealthy, I would have been dead a long, long time ago.

Reminds me of an old joke.  One kid says to another, "Masturbation will make you go blind," and the other responds, "Then I'll only do it until I have to wear glasses."

[gentle_dissident]

Masturbation is necessary if we're going to pair up. The male of the species has a long and constant sex drive. He is driven to propagate the species. The female's desire is over pretty quickly, for she just wants a baby. I'm assured by my GF that, according to her biological clock,  she's about to go into a sexual frenzy, and that we will have sex more than 6 times a year.

The problem with masturbation, IMHO, is porn. I was given Playboy at 4. I was talking girls out of their clothes at 4. I was interested in all things related to the nether region. When I was old enough to know why I had these feelings, I was the awkward late bloomer and could only be friends with girls. I had a lot of girl friends. That made my mind race even more with sexual fantasy. Porn was freely available in our town. We young kids could buy magazines and rent VHS tapes without a problem. We traded from our huge collections. Remembering back to adult conversations, I think they were trying to make sure we didn't turn out gay. At the time, gays were considered child rapists, and many Americans thought gays should be executed just for being gay.

My sexual fantasies got weirder as I lost the ability to get excited by the last fantasy. No matter what strangeness I was looking at for porn, the party in my head was darker. I would then suffer from shame, guilt, and depression. Porn was a good temporary cure for that. There was definitely a cycle.

In college, I was suddenly inundated with girls. My porn viewing slowed a bit, but I would still indulge between sex. When it came to the real thing, my fantasies were usually replaced by passion. My 1st wife was a stripper, so I then got loads of live porn.

I let porn really mess up my brain, but I didn't know how to stop it. Well, I've quit cold turkey, and I feel infinitely better. I now have beautiful models in my Pinterest feed. I send them to their folder and access them when I need a biological boost. I often wind up thinking about my biologically cold GF in the other room. This seems like a good compromise to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cIQDpHdS-U

[Mermaid]

Masturbation is necessary if we're going to pair up. The male of the species has a long and constant sex drive. He is driven to propagate the species. The female's desire is over pretty quickly, for she just wants a baby.

Say WHAT!? Who the F taught you that?

[gentle_dissident]

Say WHAT!? Who the F taught you that?

Those are my observations. It seems others have noticed it too. Why does someone have to be taught something to know it? My dad always asked me who taught me to be an atheist.

[Mermaid]

Those are my observations. It seems others have noticed it too. Why does someone have to be taught something to know it? My dad always asked me who taught me to be an atheist.

I didn't mean to put you on the defensive--how old are the women you are dating?

As a 52 year old woman, I can tell you that this is most certainly not true. Everyone has a different sex drive. There are plenty of men who lose interest in sex at a certain age, too. Most couples have disparate sex drives, but please don't make a blanket statement about women, it's just not so.

[gentle_dissident]

OK, in general, this seems to be the case. Is that better?

I've know some heavily sexually active gay men. I assumed it's because they have the male libido, or reproductive drive, yet have a desire to "mate" with the same horny gender. Must be nice.

[Mermaid]

OK, in general, this seems to be the case. Is that better?

I've know some heavily sexually active gay men. I assumed it's because they have the male libido, or reproductive drive, yet have a desire to "mate" with the same horny gender. Must be nice.

I agree about being a gay man. I think it also has a lot to do with social mores, not libido. Women are conditioned from an early age not to talk about liking sex, and if they do it, they're whores. We are not expected to really enjoy it. If we go out and have sex with random people, the judgment is fierce.

Women can have a libido as strong as men's, so no, I don't think it's fair to say this happens in general. There are some hormonal changes that occur that affect libido, but that generally goes away. I have to tell you, I hear a lot of women complaining that their men don't have a drive as strong as theirs. A lot.

[gentle_dissident]

There are some hormonal changes that occur that affect libido, but that generally goes away.

That was part of my post. My GF swears that's she's about to become a dirty old lady, and that I'll have to beat her off with a stick. I hope she starts dressing like the older ladies I see out. I know we're just decorating naked apes, but the suggestive attire really gives me a boost during the day.

[mauricio]

but please don't make a blanket statement about women

It's called averages. The reproduction strategies of females and males are different and have been for a long time that has configured differences in our sexual behaviors. It started due to things like differences in resource investment between insemination and pregnancy that comes from even further back since the start of the mammals. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_mating_strategies) Men do tend to have a stronger sex drive on average as has been reported in studies.



https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/handy-psychology-answers/201102/does-sexuality-differ-men-and-women
http://www.webmd.com/sex/features/sex-drive-how-do-men-women-compare
http://psr.sagepub.com/content/5/3/242.abstract

[Mermaid]

That was part of my post. My GF swears that's she's about to become a dirty old lady, and that I'll have to beat her off with a stick. I hope she starts dressing like the older ladies I see out. I know we're just decorating naked apes, but the suggestive attire really gives me a boost during the day.

haha, I actually meant the other way. During menopause.

[Mermaid]

Men do tend to have a stronger sex drive on average as has been reported in studies.

Didn't say men didn't have stronger sex drives. The statement was that women stop wanting sex after the reproductive window.

[mauricio]

Didn't say men didn't have stronger sex drives. The statement was that women stop wanting sex after the reproductive window.

I was not contending that point I was contending your "blanket statement about women" while poiting out that is not that it is just an average that is factual. 

Also he said this "The male of the species has a long and constant sex drive. He is driven to propagate the species. The female's desire is over pretty quickly, for she just wants a baby."

Hes got the basic idea right. As I said in the previous post: The reproduction strategies of females and males are different and have been for a long time that has configured differences in our sexual behaviors. It started due to things like differences in resource investment between insemination and pregnancy that comes from even further back since the start of the mammals. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_mating_strategies) <--- read that

[Mermaid]

I was not contending that point I was contending your "blanked statement about women" while poiting out that is not that it is just an average that is factual. 

Also he said this "The male of the species has a long and constant sex drive. He is driven to propagate the species. The female's desire is over pretty quickly, for she just wants a baby."

Hes got the basic idea right. As I said in the previous post: The reproduction strategies of females and males are different and have been for a long time that has configured differences in our sexual behaviors. It started due to things like differences in resource investment between insemination and pregnancy that comes from even further back since the start of the mammals. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_mating_strategies)

No. By the way, I have an advanced degree in biology, and I understand completely about reproductive strategies. You're right. I completely agree and am not arguing that.

But the statement about sexual desire of post-reproductive women disappearing is just not right. I am not arguing about relative sex drives or trends.

[mauricio]

No. By the way, I have an advanced degree in biology, and I understand completely about reproductive strategies. You're right. I completely agree and am not arguing that.

But the statement about sexual desire of post-reproductive women disappearing is just not right. I am not arguing about relative sex drives or trends.

Well that's why i said hes got the basic idea right, I'm guessing the women sex drive disappearing part is just hyperbole, since it obviously does not disappear (unless something is wrong) it is just not as constant and strong as the male one and seems like having a baby can reduce it even further, which I understand was the main point of his statement: the differences between male and female sex drives due to their different reproductive strategies.

[jonb]

I was reading the male responses on this thread and thinking, Oh teenage boys they will find out when they grow up, and having a quiet chuckle to myself about inexperienced youth.


OMG!

Now I understand why the women around them are saying they don't have much of a sex drive and only want to do it to make babies.