Started by randomvim, September 11, 2016, 03:14:56 AM
Quote from: randomvim on September 13, 2016, 10:17:14 AMIntriguing. what would natural or native refer to; having ease to be an atheist?
Quote from: randomvim on September 13, 2016, 10:32:34 AMWhy do you not? Does a person not justify their own belief? I don't know how absence of evidence justifies a claim when even in a debate both sides have support that is positive to their own claim.For example, why are we not perfect? If there was a God what characteristics would that God have and would that God not want us to be perfect? I am sure the struggle and division in life may be presented in a way to question not just character but used to justify doubt. And this is just me thinking about an example. Why would there or should there not be some support to make that doesn't rely on an opposing party? I have watched debates on other topics and there seems to be some support that doesn't just criticise the other side (though this is understandable and necessary). support that is even separate from the opposing side at times.
Quote from: PickelledEggs on September 11, 2016, 05:05:32 AMI have a feeling he saw this. I'll probably ban him when I wake up this afternoon
Quote from: randomvim on September 12, 2016, 07:58:54 PMwhat about the Bible seems to be support for being atheist?
Quote from: randomvim on September 12, 2016, 08:19:58 PMExcuse me. I always saw this sort of opinion as a debate. two sides to one story. in a debate all sides support their own claim with more than just criticism of opposing claim. Similar to different opinions on gravity, we look at opposing claims and evidence.
Quote from: randomvim on September 13, 2016, 12:11:09 AMI prefer the atmosphere of a debate. to me, it means a person will stick to their side and support. just as they would stay to the topic of the thread.I like a good conversation. so be it.
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 13, 2016, 06:35:47 PMI don't believe in God for the same reason I don't believe in Santa Claus, the Rain God, the Sun God and other such similar absurdities. God is just a word people say when they really mean "I don't know."
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on September 13, 2016, 11:15:18 AMIf I made a claim and had a belief, I'd be with you in that I'd have to justify it. But I make no claim and I have no belief in this matter. Only a lack thereoff.And this lack of belief, my atheism, does not stem from evidence against the existance of any or multiple deities. It stems from those actually making claims of the existence of God(s) never producing anything worthwhile or remotely convincing to support said beliefs and claims. Look at it this way. Say I were to claim that I am possessed by the ghost of Napoleon. Would it be up to you to prove that I'm not? How can you even prove that I'm not? You don't have te believe me, however, and as such, you'd lack the belief in the claim that I'm making. And if I can't present you decent evidence, you are justified in that lack of beliefs without the need to support it.In short, the burden of proof is on you. As it would be on me, if I were to try to convince you Napoleon coinhabited my body.
Quote from: Johan on September 14, 2016, 08:45:36 PMFor me I guess its because I don't think it would moral of me to cut off my wife's hand if she were to accidentally touch the balls of some dude who is beating the shit out of me. Guess I'm just a rebel that way.