Started by randomvim, September 11, 2016, 03:14:56 AM
QuoteI have no earthly way of understanding how what i said could have lead anyone to that response.
Quote from: Hydra009 on January 10, 2019, 01:42:07 PMMeh, all that does is add another miserable person to the world.
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on January 10, 2019, 04:06:38 PMI have no earthly way of understanding how what i said could have lead anyone to that response. How does saying 'i'm evil and i don't care' imply that i need to grow balls?Not even going to touch THE belgium bit, because you are even more obsessed than i am.
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on January 10, 2019, 08:58:03 AMI sometimes feel like I should feel more guilt over being happy and well off, with so much misery in the world.But truth be told, I can't muster more than apathy regarding that, 99% of the time. I've come to terms with the fact that I'm not a good person. I don't concider myself one. I can't.But I also realize that if 'Joe', a poor guy, had been born in my place and I in his, 'Joe' wouldn't have acted differently than I do now. Most likely.I got lucky, in the lottery of life. Especially in regard to 90% of the world. But had that balance of wealth and power been shifted differently, the world would probably still be very recognizeable. People operate the same, all over the world.And I don't think there are many good people.
Quote from: GSOgymrat on January 10, 2019, 08:44:12 PMI don't think there are good or bad people, just like I don't think there are good or bad lions. Last week a lion killed a twenty-two-year-old intern at a wildlife center. The lion wasn't "bad" but did what lions do when they are in that situation. I see people the same way. Humans and lions are trying to get their needs met and in that ongoing struggle they're going to make decisions that have bad consequences for themselves and others around them. Everyone tries to make decisions that result in good consequences but in a complex world with competing needs and personal limitations we all make bad choices. Even when it comes to someone like Donald Trump I try to keep in mind he really is trying to make decisions that result in good consequences given his inherited attributes, personal experiences, current circumstances and obvious limitations.
Quote from: Baruch on January 10, 2019, 07:30:28 PMTry to remember 1914, when Belgium stood against something.
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on January 11, 2019, 12:44:23 AMTry again.No metaphores.No hyperbole.If you tell me now; i was actually just talking out of my ass, i won't even think less of you.But if you keep acting dumb, i will.
Quote from: Baruch on January 11, 2019, 12:51:00 PMThat is why it isn't bad for Hitler to kill millions, or Kim Jong Un to nuke the US. It is just atoms moving pseudorandomly.People like some things and dislike other things. That is what makes us human. Are you trying to be trans-human?
Quote from: GSOgymrat on January 11, 2019, 01:47:34 PMI'm not a moral relativist. It is bad that Hitler killed millions, genocide is always bad for humans, but it isn't bad because God said so or because Hitler was evil. Dismissing Hitler as evil creates psychological distance between people who do bad things and ourselves; it minimizes the fact that given the right circumstances there are many people who would do the same thing, or worse. Thinking of Hitler's actions as the result of evil, mental illness or sin ignores the psychological and social forces that resulted in this destructive behavior. Hilter didn't operate in a vacuum and his actions were not unprecedented.
Quote from: trdsf on January 09, 2019, 09:54:40 PMThat was the part, even when I was at my happiest and most committed as a Roman Catholic, that I could never square in my mind. There was no way to justify making me guilty for a sin I didn't commit, and no explanation by any priest, even the "cool" ones in the 70s, ever made any sense to me -- and like as not, they would fall back on some version of "Well, it's a mystery" eventually.And fuck knows Catholicism did its level best to make me feel guilty about everything else I did, short of breathing.
Quote from: Baruch on January 11, 2019, 12:52:26 PMAre you a European or a Belgian? If a Belgian, then would you defend Belgium against Germany in 1914? How is that hyperbole? Hypothetical yes, hyperbole no.