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Started by Alex Shouwls, September 01, 2013, 07:45:24 PM

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Alex Shouwls

Women's rights advocates have long struggled for motherhood to be a voluntary condition, and not one imposed by nature or culture. In places where women and girls have access to affordable and safe contraception and abortion services, and where there are programs to assist mothers in distress find foster or adoptive parents, voluntary motherhood is basically a reality. In many states, infant safe haven laws allow a birth mother to walk away from her newborn baby if she leaves it unharmed at a designated facility.
If a man accidentally conceives a child with a woman, and does not want to raise the child with her, what are his choices? Surprisingly, he has few options in the United States. He can urge her to seek an abortion, but ultimately that decision is hers to make. Should she decide to continue the pregnancy and raise the child, and should she or our government attempt to establish him as the legal father, he can be stuck with years of child support payments.
Why is it that woman has 100% control on how much responsibility she can demand from man when its both of their fault that shes pregnant?
Is this a religiously inspired law? Well so far religious people lost it, when woman had a right to have an abortion, but now they still have a great tool to make woman very comfortable if they want to have a child without a spouse, because rights of men is not as much as important as rights for woman why? because men doesn't have a womb.So fairness, justice, equality, doesn't matter when there is baby involved?
Tell me what you think. :-?

the_antithesis


LikelyToBreak

In America, it is the woman's right to punish the man.  I heard a lawyer on radio admit once, that when there is a divorce, the man just wants it over with.  The woman on the other hand, wants to punish the man, even if she was the one at fault.  Not scientific to be sure, but it seems the laws and the courts give the woman more rights than the man.  And yes, I think it is religiously based.

Men, use a condom, a good condom each and every time.  Or plan on buying the woman your depositing your sperm into a house.

Alex Shouwls

#3
Quote from: "LikelyToBreak"In America, it is the woman's right to punish the man.  I heard a lawyer on radio admit once, that when there is a divorce, the man just wants it over with.  The woman on the other hand, wants to punish the man, even if she was the one at fault.  Not scientific to be sure, but it seems the laws and the courts give the woman more rights than the man.  And yes, I think it is religiously based.

Men, use a condom, a good condom each and every time.  Or plan on buying the woman your depositing your sperm into a house.
Yes well not only in US by the way i read in the local newspaper how one night stand stole rich mans sperm to then demand insane amount of child support and how that child toke care of all of her financial problems she doesn't have to work doesn't need to worry
how are you going to prove that condom worked well and it has been stolen?
insane law if you ask me

Hijiri Byakuren

#4
Easiest way not to have this problem is some pornography, tissues, and your dominant hand. I may be made fun of, but no one can deny that this method is foolproof.

More seriously, I think it may stem from a slight overreaction to the treatment of women in the past. Until recently, all societies that weren't straight-up matriarchies treated women as property and little more.
(And there have never been a preponderance of matriarchies in the world.)
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Alex Shouwls

Quote from: "Hijiri Byakuren"Easiest way not to have this problem is some pornography, tissues, and your dominant hand. I may be made fun of, but no one can deny that this method is foolproof. 8-)
:rollin:

Smartmarzipan

Why the hell is this in the "Introductions" forum?
Legi, Intellexi, Condemnavi.

"Religion is the human response to being alive and having to die." ~Anon

Inter arma enim silent leges

Mermaid

Women are evil and are out to make men miserable. It's true.
A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

Smartmarzipan

Quote from: "LikelyToBreak"In America, it is the woman's right to punish the man.  I heard a lawyer on radio admit once, that when there is a divorce, the man just wants it over with.  The woman on the other hand, wants to punish the man, even if she was the one at fault.  Not scientific to be sure, but it seems the laws and the courts give the woman more rights than the man.  And yes, I think it is religiously based.

Men, use a condom, a good condom each and every time.  Or plan on buying the woman your depositing your sperm into a house.

Well, that was incredibly sexist.

Yeah, women are just looking to "punish" men when they want a divorce. Men are just hapless victims.

If you don't like current laws, fine. But don't give me that "women are vindictive bitches" shit.
Legi, Intellexi, Condemnavi.

"Religion is the human response to being alive and having to die." ~Anon

Inter arma enim silent leges

Mermaid

Quote from: "Alex Shouwls"Why is it that woman has 100% control on how much responsibility she can demand from man when its both of their fault that shes pregnant?
Because she gestates the baby, it's her body. That is biology. If you have a problem with it, blame God.

 8-[
A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

Mermaid

Quote from: "LikelyToBreak"In America, it is the woman's right to punish the man.  I heard a lawyer on radio admit once, that when there is a divorce, the man just wants it over with.  The woman on the other hand, wants to punish the man, even if she was the one at fault.  Not scientific to be sure, but it seems the laws and the courts give the woman more rights than the man.  And yes, I think it is religiously based.

Men, use a condom, a good condom each and every time.  Or plan on buying the woman your depositing your sperm into a house.
*snfffffffffffffff* Ahhh, the lemony smell of misogyny. How refreshing.
A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

Alex Shouwls

#11
Quote from: "Mermaid"
Quote from: "Alex Shouwls"Why is it that woman has 100% control on how much responsibility she can demand from man when its both of their fault that shes pregnant?
Because she gestates the baby, it's her body. That is biology. If you have a problem with it, blame God.

 8-[
troll alert?
Woman and man both choose to have sex in case of accidental pregnancy need to be resolved from both parties
if man doesn't want to have a child he is forced by woman's choice to pay money out from his packet.
no one is taking away a rights of woman to do what ever they want with their body but this Law takes away right of man to say i don't want to have a child. fact that he cant say anything weather or not woman should get an abortion is very fair.
but think about this Logically if both of parties take action and something goes wrong its up to both parties to choice how to solve a problem not only ones. In this case its only choise is women where is a right of men?
so if woman has a right to have a child whether or not she has permission from father of a child
then man should have a right to give away their rights of fatherhood
AKA not be forced to pay child support when he gave away his rights of fatherhood
and please write normal comment this is forum for atheists don't say silly things like you should keep it in your pants or this is biology. really?
and read full post please
I think you are on wrong forum this is not lets be stupid because we never had other choice forum.

the_antithesis

Quote from: "Mermaid"Women are evil and are out to make men miserable. It's true.
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Smartmarzipan

Quote from: "Alex Shouwls"
Quote from: "Mermaid"
Quote from: "Alex Shouwls"Why is it that woman has 100% control on how much responsibility she can demand from man when its both of their fault that shes pregnant?
Because she gestates the baby, it's her body. That is biology. If you have a problem with it, blame God.

 8-[
troll alert?
Woman and man both choose to have sex in case of accidental pregnancy need to be resolved from both parties
if man doesn't want to have a child he is forced by woman's choice to pay money out from his packet.
no one is taking away a rights of woman to do what ever they want with their body but this Law takes away right of man to say i don't want to have a child. fact that he cant say anything weather or not woman should get an abortion is very fair.
but think about this Logically if both of parties take action and something goes wrong its up to both parties to choice how to solve a problem not only ones. In this case its only choice women where is a right of men?
so if woman has a right to have a child whether or not she has permission from father of a child
then man should have a right to give away their rights of fatherhood
AKA not be forced to pay child support when he gave away his rights of fatherhood
and please write normal comment this is forum for atheists don't say silly things like you should keep it in your pants or this is biology really?
I think you are on wrong forum this is not lets be stupid because we never had other choice forum.

Men are not innocent in this whole baby-making thing. They put their dicks in women and ejaculate knowing the consequences of their actions. Birth control does not always work. Shit happens. If you put your penis in a vagina, you'd better be prepared for any unexpected consequences that result from that action. If you're partially responsible for creating a new life, deal with it. And don't you dare tell me I'm being "silly" because I disagree with you, I have a perfectly valid argument. You can't just "give away" your fatherhood. You created a life. You had sex and you knew what could happen, but you did it anyway. Every time I have sex, I know there is a slim chance I could get pregnant. I accept that risk.
Legi, Intellexi, Condemnavi.

"Religion is the human response to being alive and having to die." ~Anon

Inter arma enim silent leges

LikelyToBreak

Hijiri Byakuren wrote in part:
QuoteEasiest way not to have this problem is some pornography, tissues, and your dominant hand. I may be made fun of, but no one can deny that this method is foolproof. 8-)
Where were you when I needed this advice twenty-five years ago?   :(

Smartmarzipan wrote in part:
QuoteIf you don't like current laws, fine. But don't give me that "women are vindictive bitches" shit.
I never said "women are vindictive bitches."  I just quoted what a lawyer said on the radio.  But, now that you mention it... many women are vindictive bitches.  Of course, many men are asshole dogs too.  

As far as being a misogynist, well as I have stated before, I am a misanthropist.  So, why wouldn't I be a misogynist?