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Ted Cruz for President

Started by FrankDK, December 11, 2013, 08:19:24 PM

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Quote from: Jason_Harvestdancer on December 29, 2013, 02:36:08 PM
The same Koch brothers who failed in their 1980 attempt to take over the LP and having failed to do so founded CATO and now turn their attention to the Tea Party and not the LP?  Those Koch brothers?  The ones who were ultimately rejected by the LP are the ones you say are the puppet masters of the LP?  Perhaps you ought to learn a little about the LP before you say such interesting things.

Yeah, the same Koch Brothers that *CURRENTLY* fund the rightwing LP, whether your ignorant ass knows it or not. Why don't you look at who actually funds a candidate before you vote for them?

The Koch Brothers didn't reject the LP, child, they mainstreamed it.

I know more about the rightwing LP than you do. That is why I am not a part of it. Follow the money, kiddo.
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Quote from: Jason_Harvestdancer on December 11, 2013, 11:01:22 PM
Won't happen.  It breaks the pattern.

1976, Ford won the nomination, Reagan was second place.
1980, Reagan won the nomination, Bush was second place.
1984, insignificant challenges.
1988, Bush won the nomination, Dole was in second place.
1992, insignificant challenges.
1996, Dole won the nomination, McCain was in second place.
2000, Bush Jr. cut to the front of the line on his father's name, McCain was in second place.
2004, insignificant challenges.
2008, McCain won the nomination, Romney was in second place.
2012, Romney won the nomination.

Ted Cruz wasn't in second place.

I'm thinking the pattern may break this next cycle. Rick Santorum might have been appealing for the GOP party brass in 2012, but considering the Republican shift on immigration and his record thereof, it would take a lot of retrofitting to make him a suitable candidate this time around.
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Quote from: Jason_Harvestdancer on December 11, 2013, 11:01:22 PM
Won't happen.  It breaks the pattern.

1976, Ford won the nomination, Reagan was second place.
1980, Reagan won the nomination, Bush was second place.
1984, insignificant challenges.
1988, Bush won the nomination, Dole was in second place.
1992, insignificant challenges.
1996, Dole won the nomination, McCain was in second place.
2000, Bush Jr. cut to the front of the line on his father's name, McCain was in second place.
2004, insignificant challenges.
2008, McCain won the nomination, Romney was in second place.
2012, Romney won the nomination.

Ted Cruz wasn't in second place.

Sadly, despite being elected in a year divisible by 20, Dudya didn't die in office. So that's another chain broken.

(And before you say it, Reagan was brain-dead while in office, so that counts.)
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