Started by randomvim, September 11, 2016, 03:14:56 AM
Quote from: Mike Cl on September 27, 2018, 11:13:41 PMI quite agree soldier--why hate a fiction?? I prefer to call myself a non-believer and not an atheist. When I use that label too many theists think I am simply angry at their god. How can I be angry or hate something that does not exist?
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on September 27, 2018, 11:39:42 PMActually there mustn't be a label like "atheist"...
QuoteWhy we define ourselves as "counter-something"...?
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on September 27, 2018, 06:22:23 PMa- adds negative meaning to the root word. so, etimologically thinking, i too think of atheizm as being with out theizm.why i hate a deity that does not exist?negatif ateists dont comment on whether a god exists. they assert that they simply dont know whethet it exists or not. but pozitif ateists claim there cant be and is not a deity absolutly.
Quote from: Draconic Aiur on September 28, 2018, 01:43:57 PMOh "negative" atheist know their is no god and we look at religious people like their insane and stupid.
Quote from: Cavebear on October 01, 2018, 10:07:47 AMIf you knew me better, I would be insulted. But you don't so I am not.A large part of my life has been explaining what "atheist" means. I ALWAYS explain it as "the greek A", meaning "not" and "theist" meaning "a structured belief in a deity". I've been doing that here and there for about 55 years now. So please disabuse yourself of any false notions about what I know about atheism.Please do not be insulted by me or i will feel myself very sad ; )
Quote from: SoldierofFortune on October 09, 2018, 03:33:18 PMQuote from: Cavebear on October 01, 2018, 10:07:47 AMIf you knew me better, I would be insulted. But you don't so I am not.A large part of my life has been explaining what "atheist" means. I ALWAYS explain it as "the greek A", meaning "not" and "theist" meaning "a structured belief in a deity". I've been doing that here and there for about 55 years now. So please disabuse yourself of any false notions about what I know about atheism.Please do not be insulted by me or i will feel myself very sad ; )I think you missed replying...
Quote from: Blackleaf on October 11, 2018, 03:00:47 PMYou seem to be conflating two different definitions of the word "negative." The A in atheism is "negative" in the sense that it is absent. It is not "negative" in the sense that it is in aggressive opposition. If you do not believe in any gods, you are an atheist. If you choose to label yourself an agnostic as opposed to an anti-theist, that's fine, but it's still a form of atheism. I personally do not like the word agnostic because it makes one sound uncertain, like a fence sitter, while I'm secure in my unbelief. I don't need to say "I don't know," because there is not evidence for the existence of gods. That's the theist's responsibility. And until theists prove their claims, I will take what should be the logical default position of, "There are no gods."
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on December 13, 2018, 08:28:56 AMAfter sixty years of observation I believe that most people are not religious except then social situations require them to pretend they are. Yes, there is a spectrum of belief, but the give-a-fuck core is large.
Quote from: Minimalist on December 12, 2018, 09:57:38 PMHowever, religion does exist to the general detriment of humanity and needs to be opposed when its proponents start burning unbelievers at the stake or other such demonstrations of the "love" of their silly-assed god.
Quote from: Clemente Diaz AguilarMy captors stole everything from me...Those who captured me, in front of me, divided up my money, and later they led me into the hands of the torturers. In the long hours of torture, they asked me constantly about other pastors...of some churches in the capital; They asked me also about my views on liberation theology and about the liberation of the people of Israel. The torturers, tired of doing so much damage to me, rested for awhile; then, I recognized some of them: two are members of a singing duo from these churches [Verbo and Mission Elim]; I begged [them] to recognize me because I recognized them; then they asked me questions about my capture, my complete name, my address, my church and my activities. When they realized I was not the person they were looking for, they begged my forgiveness, saying,"Brother, we are also Christians.