Hello to all!
I am a shia muslim, hoping to engage in discussion encompassing a variety of different topics pertaining to religion on this board.
Quote from: A Shia Muslim on August 13, 2017, 09:17:48 AM
Hello to all!
I am a shia muslim, hoping to engage in discussion encompassing a variety of different topics pertaining to religion on this board.
Welcome to the forums. Maybe you should tell us a little more about you first.
Welcome to the forum.
It is a long time since we had a Muslim poster.
Unfortunately, they do not stay for long.
Welcome. Twelver, Sevener, Ismaili ... or just non-Sunni?
Quote from: Baruch on August 13, 2017, 12:27:45 PM
Welcome. Twelver, Sevener, Ismaili ... or just non-Sunni?
A twelve shia, which comprise of 85-90 percent of shia's globally.
And thank you and everyone else for the welcome.
Tis a shame you will never get to enjoy the worlds most spectacular food. Bacon. Alas....I mean goat is okay, but bacon...dat's da bomb man.
Welcome--may your stay be long and productive.
Quote from: A Shia Muslim on August 13, 2017, 03:41:19 PM
A twelve shia, which comprise of 85-90 percent of shia's globally.
And thank you and everyone else for the welcome.
So what do you think of Suhrawardi, Ibn Arabi or Mulla Sadra?
I love the name. "A Shia Muslim". No actual name or handle other than that. No apparent person behind the handle. Just a religion... No nothing other than a belief...
So sad...
I love these strange theists (of any kind or variety). They show me that atheism makes more sense every day.
Cavebear wrote:QuoteI love the name. "A Shia Muslim". No actual name or handle other than that. No apparent person behind the handle. Just a religion... No nothing other than a belief...
To a Muslim, his religion is his identity. Without it he is nothing.
Quote from: pr126 on August 14, 2017, 02:01:43 AM
Cavebear wrote:
To a Muslim, his religion is his identity. Without it he is nothing.
"Nothing" sounds about right...
Quote from: Cavebear on August 14, 2017, 01:33:14 AM
I love the name. "A Shia Muslim". No actual name or handle other than that. No apparent person behind the handle. Just a religion... No nothing other than a belief...
So sad...
I love these strange theists (of any kind or variety). They show me that atheism makes more sense every day.
I don't have any strong views either for or against the aforementioned, but i have some disagreements.
Quote from: pr126 on August 14, 2017, 02:01:43 AM
Cavebear wrote:
To a Muslim, his religion is his identity. Without it he is nothing.
I often use different names on forums, but i chose to use this one because i wanted users i interact with to understand to some degree where i come from. Labels are rather important, and being a shia muslim on an atheist forum, it is even mores important for me to specify what i believe. On islamic forums, i go by many other names.
But you are right, my religion is my world view, and forms an intrinsic part of my identity. This is not to say i do not have goals, dreams, wishes, and other values like you do -only Islam gives me an objective purpose.
Quote from: A Shia Muslim on August 14, 2017, 07:29:41 AM
I often use different names on forums, but i chose to use this one because i wanted users i interact with to understand to some degree where i come from. Labels are rather important, and being a shia muslim on an atheist forum, it is even mores important for me to specify what i believe.
What you believe....................I don't have any beliefs. I have reasons for what I think is correct. I have no reason to think that your god is not a fiction (all gods are fiction--just like Bugs Bunny is a fiction.), why do you think your god is not a fiction, but real?
Quote from: Cavebear on August 14, 2017, 01:33:14 AM
I love the name. "A Shia Muslim". No actual name or handle other than that. No apparent person behind the handle. Just a religion... No nothing other than a belief...
So sad...
I love these strange theists (of any kind or variety). They show me that atheism makes more sense every day.
Well, we managed to go about half a page without trying to scare away the new guy.
wa asalam alaykum wa rahmat allah wa barakatuhu. Ahalan wa sahlan. Ya ahlan wa sahlan. il mah’l nawar.fain inta yabani . ahlan ahlan. Vah vah masha allah.
this place is great . Mainly wonderful Kafirs. You will like it/ I love them . planning one day perhaps to have them all for dinner
so everytime I call your name I have to say shia Muslim. Do I get paid for commercial? j/k .
I read little bit of nahj al balagha ….great stuff . wasf al taous, I enjoyed reading . dangerous book to have in some parts of the world . so I gave it away. Don’t remember a lot now.
I like the Iranian shia . food is awesome. Pistachio.do not go near them . You can’t stop eating them once you start. Vah vah masha allah .
Arab here who harbors no animosity towards Iranians or shia in general and never have.
Barouch is Jewish . great guy. Erudite . old man . cool to pick on. I’d like to see some of that middle east conflict shared love traded here .
I didn’t see any Christians here . haven’t been here for long though. No Hindus etc. I wonder why?
Some of the people here I think but not sure eat bacon drink Alcohol too. one of them confessed .
Atheists do not wear Hijab. Only one I knew robbed a bank. But as matter of norm they don’t
Oh I’m Catholic . don't get any ideas though please. frankly we have already many Catholics.so please do me a favor, okay. We have enough. shamanism. Not many of them left you see. I’m just saying you know .
Two used “us†here . they said “usâ€. So you fit the bill board. Welcome. alaween
Blackleaf wroteQuoteWell, we managed to go about half a page without trying to scare away the new guy.
Well, they [theist] do make the forum more interesting for a short while.
Until they run away or get banned. Mostly get banned.
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 15, 2017, 03:47:06 AMI didn’t see any Christians here . haven’t been here for long though. No Hindus etc. I wonder why? ...
Oh I’m Catholic . don't get any ideas though please. frankly we have already many Catholics.
Are you saying that Catholics aren't Christians?
Keep a safe distance from pr126. He has Muslims hiding under his bed and feminists lurking in his closet.
Quote from: A Shia Muslim on August 13, 2017, 09:17:48 AM
Hello to all!
I am a shia muslim, hoping to engage in discussion encompassing a variety of different topics pertaining to religion on this board.
Welcome. Although we don't really do religion here.
Quote from: Blackleaf on August 14, 2017, 10:00:39 AM
Well, we managed to go about half a page without trying to scare away the new guy.
I'll have to try harder... ;)
Quote from: Cavebear on August 17, 2017, 06:13:52 AM
I'll have to try harder... ;)
All you really want, is a scratch behind your ears, bruin.
@blackkleaf . How are you ? good ? everything okay? Grey cells okay. , firing normal? j/k
the answer to your question has already been decided .no one objected . so Shia/Muslim and Catholic/Christian and Barouch /shamanism. Fiqh versus deposit of faith .
How about you ? Do you say Catholics are Christians or not Christian?
Simple yes or no please.
you've the right to retain counsel. May I recommend Barouch. think of a life time where the State takes care of you, no worry about shelter, food, health care. very calm serene emviroment to think all you want. to ponder. to ask . to question.
"To see a World in a Grain of Sand. And a Heaven in a Wild Flower. Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand. And Eternity in an hour." ... William Blake
The eternal present and where I sit, is sufficient grace.
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 18, 2017, 03:37:21 AM@blackkleaf . How are you ? good ? everything okay? Grey cells okay. , firing normal? j/k
If by grey cells you mean grey matter, that's more on the receiving end of electrochemical communications. White matter has the myelinated axons, which release chemicals in the brain for dendrites to recieve. So it'd be more appropriate to ask if my white matter was firing.
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 18, 2017, 03:37:21 AM
@blackkleaf . How are you ? good ? everything okay? Grey cells okay. , firing normal? j/k
the answer to your question has already been decided .no one objected . so Shia/Muslim and Catholic/Christian and Barouch /shamanism. Fiqh versus deposit of faith .
How about you ? Do you say Catholics are Christians or not Christian?
Simple yes or no please.
you've the right to retain counsel. May I recommend Barouch. think of a life time where the State takes care of you, no worry about shelter, food, health care. very calm serene emviroment to think all you want. to ponder. to ask . to question.
I have to love crazies. They light up my life like idiot sticks in the light. Where DO these people come from anyway? They seem to be actually attacking in the form of many new members. And let's be aware of that!
Ibn Khaldun claims to be a Catholic. Much too often.
I don't believe it. A fruit cake for sure.
Quote from: pr126 on August 20, 2017, 04:13:14 AM
Ibn Khaldun claims to be a Catholic. Much too often.
I don't believe it. A fruit cake for sure.
Agree. He seems to be whatever he thinks will work for an argument.
And I can't resist this, but "like Trump", LOL!
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 15, 2017, 03:47:06 AM
wa asalam alaykum wa rahmat allah wa barakatuhu. Ahalan wa sahlan. Ya ahlan wa sahlan. il mah’l nawar.fain inta yabani . ahlan ahlan. Vah vah masha allah.
Blimey! What the devil is that?
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 15, 2017, 03:47:06 AMArab here who harbors no animosity towards Iranians or shia in general and never have.
What a shame. Most un-Arabic. I was hoping to see scimitars flashing in the sun.
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 15, 2017, 03:47:06 AM
I didn’t see any Christians here . haven’t been here for long though. No Hindus etc. I wonder why?
I'm a Christian and what's more, I'm an acolyte.
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 15, 2017, 03:47:06 AM
Some of the people here I think but not sure eat bacon drink Alcohol too. one of them confessed .
A Muslim doing Haram things? Stone him!!! Or cut off his right hand and his left leg!!! Or give him 100 lashes. Or any of the above.
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 15, 2017, 03:47:06 AM
Atheists do not wear Hijab. Only one I knew robbed a bank. But as matter of norm they don’t
Only one? That's great and speaks volumes of atheistic morality. I can think of thousands of Muslim gang rapists and Hindu plunderers and Christian cheats. But it's true and you have to give it to these godless people. Statistically, they are more morally upright.
I was going to give you a warm welcome but I have just joined myself ten minutes ago. So here's a welcome to you, a believer in the flying winged horse and to me with my tradition of a virgin birth.
Cheers,
St Truth
Quote from: St Truth on September 22, 2017, 10:13:04 PM
Blimey! What the devil is that?
That's just Ibn, speaking in tongues.
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 22, 2017, 10:48:08 PM
That's just Ibn, speaking in tongues.
Actually, I prefer Arabic words to speaking in tongues. Arabic words sound so deliciously foreign. My dad took me to Jakarta earlier this year when he had work. I almost ran for cover when I heard Allah u Akhbar screamed loudly over a hailer. I thought it was a terrorist attack but it was apparently a normal thing all over Jakarta. If not for the association of the Arabic prayer with death, decapitation and suicide bombers, it can actually be quite a fun thing. Reminds me of one of those roller coasters in Disneyland where you pass by strange lands.
Quote from: St Truth on September 22, 2017, 10:56:32 PM
Actually, I prefer Arabic words to speaking in tongues. Arabic words sound so deliciously foreign. My dad took me to Jakarta earlier this year when he had work. I almost ran for cover when I heard Allah u Akhbar screamed loudly over a hailer. I thought it was a terrorist attack but it was apparently a normal thing all over Jakarta. If not for the association of the Arabic prayer with death, decapitation and suicide bombers, it can actually be quite a fun thing. Reminds me of one of those roller coasters in Disneyland where you pass by strange lands.
Glad you had a young adventure. Look where it can lead. Young Obama was in Jakarta once ;-)
My main problem with the modern muezzin is they have crappy audio equipment, far better to have an actual trained human doing it.
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 22, 2017, 10:48:08 PM
That's just Ibn, speaking in tongues.
and you are lazy ...
Google Translate says ...
I salute you and God's mercy and blessings. welcome. welcome. No, no. Welcome Welcome. Vah Vah Mashi God.
I think it got the last sentence wrong, probably dialect.
Yeah, google translates reasonably well. I get blog comments from a friend in Brazil. Portuguese comes close but they differ. And Google doesn't offer Brazilian Portuguese. I have to make guesses sometimes. I am beginning to learn the subtle differences of some personal pronouns and some descriptives though.
Quote from: Baruch on September 23, 2017, 12:09:41 AM
Glad you had a young adventure. Look where it can lead. Young Obama was in Jakarta once ;-)
My main problem with the modern muezzin is they have crappy audio equipment, far better to have an actual trained human doing it.
Oh no. He lived there for some time. I merely visited Jakarta for a few days. Anyway, I'm not American.
Quote from: St Truth on September 23, 2017, 12:44:01 AM
Oh no. He lived there for some time. I merely visited Jakarta for a few days. Anyway, I'm not American.
So Obama was in Jakarta once. I spent some time in Quebec. Does that make me Canadian? Or French?
Quote from: Cavebear on September 23, 2017, 12:33:46 AM
Yeah, google translates reasonably well. I get blog comments from a friend in Brazil. Portuguese comes close but they differ. And Google doesn't offer Brazilian Portuguese. I have to make guesses sometimes. I am beginning to learn the subtle differences of some personal pronouns and some descriptives though.
I knew you had to have at least one redeeming quality ;-) Well, you already showed interest in Latin.
Quote from: Cavebear on September 23, 2017, 01:10:47 AM
So Obama was in Jakarta once. I spent some time in Quebec. Does that make me Canadian? Or French?
Still defending all the alien reptilian D politicians? I don't think you are a cave bear ... probably a wookie ;-) You know, that as a boy, he spent time being educated in Indonesia. Very unusual, even for a CIA black project.
Quote from: Baruch on September 23, 2017, 10:51:22 AM
Still defending all the alien reptilian D politicians? I don't think you are a cave bear ... probably a wookie ;-) You know, that as a boy, he spent time being educated in Indonesia. Very unusual, even for a CIA black project.
I am the most hairless Wookie you ever met...
V
Hmm, one rational guy educated briefly in Indonesia and success at Yale or Harvard whatever vs a ljingoistic unatic educated in NYC real estate. Gee let me think for a few nanoseconds. Yeah the smart guy...
Quote from: Cavebear on September 23, 2017, 11:05:55 AM
I am the most hairless Wookie you ever met...
V
Hmm, one rational guy educated briefly in Indonesia and success at Yale or Harvard whatever vs a ljingoistic unatic educated in NYC real estate. Gee let me think for a few nanoseconds. Yeah the smart guy...
Both are very capable grifters. One pretends to be smart but isn't, the other pretends to be a fool but isn't. You were fooled both times!
Quote from: Baruch on September 23, 2017, 11:19:43 AM
Both are very capable grifters. One pretends to be smart but isn't, the other pretends to be a fool but isn't. You were fooled both times!
Shrub and Trump, right?
Quote from: Baruch on September 23, 2017, 12:12:05 AM
and you are lazy ...
Google Translate says ...
I salute you and God's mercy and blessings. welcome. welcome. No, no. Welcome Welcome. Vah Vah Mashi God.
I think it got the last sentence wrong, probably dialect.
Pardon me, sir - you must have me confused with someone who gives a damn...
Quote from: Unbeliever on September 23, 2017, 12:53:57 PM
Pardon me, sir - you must have me confused with someone who gives a damn...
Funny for an atheist, to use that ... erm ... term ;-) So in Roman civil law, you favor maximum sentences for those convicted? That is what "damno" means.
Quote from: Baruch on September 23, 2017, 03:00:37 PM
Funny for an atheist, to use that ... erm ... term ;-) So in Roman civil law, you favor maximum sentences for those convicted? That is what "damno" means.
We atheists use the vernacular... Damn, Darn, Zounds, For Pete's Sake, Golly, Gosh, Gad, Gee, Gee-Whiz, Lordy, Holy, etc. Somehow, banging our thumb with a hammer and shouting "Madelyn O Hair" just doesn't get the point across the theists.
In spite of that, I tend to prefer scatilogical terms myself.
Dang!
Quote from: Blackleaf on August 14, 2017, 10:00:39 AM
Well, we managed to go about half a page without trying to scare away the new guy.
Just noticed this thread, I've been consumed by the getting kicked out of the Christian Forum thread, but I think Blackleaf my have spoke too soon.
It's an atheist forum. The theists are on their own here. And subject to questions and sarcasm...