From a real call I had this morning, caller reading back something to me to make sure he had it spelled correctly: "Okay, that's D as in David, L as in... uh... something that starts with L."
That's right up there with the time I gave someone the phonetic spelling "That's K as in Knife... uh. May I try that again?"
Opportunity missed. L as in Leroy.
M as in Mancy :P
Fauxnetically.
How'd I do?
A Alpha
B Bravo
C Charlie
D Delta
E Echo
F Foxtrot
G Golf
H Hotel
I India
J Juliet
K Kilo
L Lima
M Mike
N November
O Oscar
P Papa
Q Quebec
R Romeo
S Sierra
T Tango
U Uniform
V Victor
W Whiskey
X X-ray
Y Yankee
Z Zulu
Is what they taught me almost 40 years ago.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on March 02, 2017, 03:58:02 PM
A Alpha
B Bravo
C Charlie
D Delta
E Echo
F Foxtrot
G Golf
H Hotel
I India
J Juliet
K Kilo
L Lima
M Mike
N November
O Oscar
P Papa
Q Quebec
R Romeo
S Sierra
T Tango
U Uniform
V Victor
W Whiskey
X X-ray
Y Yankee
Z Zulu
Is what they taught me almost 40 years ago.
Boot camp, 1969. Eighty recruits chanting that at least once every evening before lights out.
Speaking of spelling on the phone...
https://youtu.be/hUJLczoyVlI?t=620
If it doesn't start there directly, it starts at 10:20.
Okay, "L as in something that starts with L" has been dethroned.
One of our callers just did "H as in whore".
Quote from: trdsf on March 10, 2017, 12:44:59 PM
Okay, "L as in something that starts with L" has been dethroned.
One of our callers just did "H as in whore".
At one point in my career, I had to spell codes to people on the phone. I kept the standard list taped to the wall. But others didn't and some times gave interesting versions back. I always crack up recalling getting "N for Pneumonia".
But reading "whore"" also reminds of 2 funny mistakes by friends and one of my own. One friend referred to "whore-frost on the soil and I only caught the error when he attempted to explain the origin. Another thought the plant cowslips was "cow's lips" not "cow slips". I myself, as an early reader, thought Ulysses's wife was pronounced "Penelope" like "envelope". Seemed sensible... LOL!
A as in Au Pair
C as in Cnidarian
G as in Gjetost
H as in Hour
J as in Jarlsberg
K as in Knight
P an in Pneumonia
S as in Szczecin
W as in Wrong
X as in Xi'an
Parenthetically is one way to not spell phonetically.
Quote from: Atheon on March 19, 2017, 02:52:02 PMJ as in Jarlsberg
I actually do pronounce it Jarles-berg. Is the J silent? If so, I've been doing it wrong all my life.
Route = root or rout?
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 20, 2017, 12:21:57 AM
I actually do pronounce it Jarles-berg. Is the J silent? If so, I've been doing it wrong all my life.
The J is pronounced like a Y instead of like a J.
Quote from: Atheon on March 20, 2017, 12:35:54 AM
The J is pronounced like a Y instead of like a J.
Jes, it is.
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on March 02, 2017, 03:58:02 PM
A Alpha
B Bravo
C Charlie
D Delta
E Echo
F Foxtrot
G Golf
H Hotel
I India
J Juliet
K Kilo
L Lima
M Mike
N November
O Oscar
P Papa
Q Quebec
R Romeo
S Sierra
T Tango
U Uniform
V Victor
W Whiskey
X X-ray
Y Yankee
Z Zulu
Is what they taught me almost 40 years ago.
When I learned it was:
Able
Baker
Charlie
Dog
Easy
Fox
etc, etc, etc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Army/Navy_Phonetic_Alphabet
That was before 1956. My Boy Scout Leader was a former radioman in the Army, and made us learn the Morse Code and march around the school playground. It was actually kind of fun. I might have been a good soldier. Well, a good marcher, anyway.
Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on March 19, 2017, 03:36:59 PM
Parenthetically is one way to not spell phonetically.
()tically
Quote from: Atheon on March 20, 2017, 12:35:54 AM
The J is pronounced like a Y instead of like a J.
Surelj you yest.
P-w-n E-t-h-i-c-a-l-l-y
Next you guys will tell me pecan isn't pronounced "pee-kahn", aunt doesn't rhyme with want, creek doesn't rhyme with week, and caramel doesn't have 3 syllables.
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 20, 2017, 12:35:18 PM
Next you guys will tell me pecan isn't pronounced "pee-kahn", aunt doesn't rhyme with want, creek doesn't rhyme with week, and caramel doesn't have 3 syllables.
The second and third, yeah, they don't. I've always pronounced them 'ant' and 'crick'.
But is is car-a-mel, or care-a-mel?
care-a-mel
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 20, 2017, 04:39:35 PM
care-a-mel
Huh.
I've always done car-(uh)-mel -- barely more than two syllables but not quite three.
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Z as in ceasarian"? LOL!
Foundation for Spelling Success
To develop a foundation for spelling success and strengthen spelling skills the student needs to:
Develop Phonemic Awareness: Phonemic awareness (PA) is critical to spelling development. The child needs to be able to recognize and distinguish the sounds within spoken words in order to then translate these sounds back to print. If the child has a phonemic weakness, you need to help that child strengthen their phonemic awareness with PA training. The great news is that research proves PA training has “strong and significant effects on reading and spelling development†(National Reading Panel) See Phonemic Awareness Explained.
Understand phonemic nature of spelling: The student needs to understand written English is based on a phonemic code. In other words printed black squiggles represent sounds in the word.
Learn the phonemic code: The student needs to learn the complete phonemic code. The English phonemic code is complex and the student needs to learn the complete code in order to handle these complexities. The student needs to learn the code systematically beginning with the basic code and then adding the complexities with vowel combinations, r-controlled combinations and other intricacies. Although there is code overlap (more than one way to write a sound), irregular and unexpected spellings, English is based on this phonemic code.
Approach the process of spelling phonemically: The student needs to base their spelling on converting the sounds in the spoken word into print. They need to write the phonemic code for the sounds in the word. Spelling needs to be approached as recoding sound to print. Once again phonemic awareness is a critical skill. The child must have the phonemic awareness to recognize and distinguish the sounds within words. If your child has a phonemic weakness, you need to help the child strengthen their phonemic awareness.
Acquire knowledge of spelling patterns and learn helpful guidelines: The student needs to learn and practice the common spelling patterns that are used in English. There are also guidelines that can help us learn correct spelling. While there are exceptions and irregularities most words follow common patterns. There are also a number of helpful guidelines to aid us in accurate spelling. Children are better able to achieve spelling success when they learn and practice these common patterns and helpful guidelines.
Learn/memorize specific and ‘tricky’ spellings: For accurate spelling the student does need to learn the correct spelling for common words and begin memorizing the specific spelling pattern used for particular words. Accurate spelling can be tricky and does require remembering which spelling pattern is used within certain words.
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Quote from: admissioninfo on April 21, 2017, 03:55:34 AM
Foundation for Spelling Success
To develop a foundation for spelling success and strengthen spelling skills the student needs to:
Develop Phonemic Awareness: Phonemic awareness (PA) is critical to spelling development. The child needs to be able to recognize and distinguish the sounds within spoken words in order to then translate these sounds back to print. If the child has a phonemic weakness, you need to help that child strengthen their phonemic awareness with PA training. The great news is that research proves PA training has “strong and significant effects on reading and spelling development†(National Reading Panel) See Phonemic Awareness Explained.
Understand phonemic nature of spelling: The student needs to understand written English is based on a phonemic code. In other words printed black squiggles represent sounds in the word.
Learn the phonemic code: The student needs to learn the complete phonemic code. The English phonemic code is complex and the student needs to learn the complete code in order to handle these complexities. The student needs to learn the code systematically beginning with the basic code and then adding the complexities with vowel combinations, r-controlled combinations and other intricacies. Although there is code overlap (more than one way to write a sound), irregular and unexpected spellings, English is based on this phonemic code.
Approach the process of spelling phonemically: The student needs to base their spelling on converting the sounds in the spoken word into print. They need to write the phonemic code for the sounds in the word. Spelling needs to be approached as recoding sound to print. Once again phonemic awareness is a critical skill. The child must have the phonemic awareness to recognize and distinguish the sounds within words. If your child has a phonemic weakness, you need to help the child strengthen their phonemic awareness.
Acquire knowledge of spelling patterns and learn helpful guidelines: The student needs to learn and practice the common spelling patterns that are used in English. There are also guidelines that can help us learn correct spelling. While there are exceptions and irregularities most words follow common patterns. There are also a number of helpful guidelines to aid us in accurate spelling. Children are better able to achieve spelling success when they learn and practice these common patterns and helpful guidelines.
Learn/memorize specific and ‘tricky’ spellings: For accurate spelling the student does need to learn the correct spelling for common words and begin memorizing the specific spelling pattern used for particular words. Accurate spelling can be tricky and does require remembering which spelling pattern is used within certain words.
A superb disproof of the theory of phonetics!
I always say it ca ramm ul to throw people off
And there is the old "ghoti" equals "fish" (gh as in "rough", o as in "women" and ti as in "motion") ...
Shouldn't "phonemic" be spelled "fonemik"?
Quote from: Cavebear on May 12, 2017, 01:25:53 AM
Shouldn't "phonemic" be spelled "fonemik"?
That was exactly the kind of spelling reform that Teddy Roosevelt championed.
Personally, I'd rather see a shift to the Shavian alphabet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavian_alphabet), where each letter has one and only one sound so there's no question about how something is pronounced.
Quote from: trdsf on May 16, 2017, 12:57:37 PM
That was exactly the kind of spelling reform that Teddy Roosevelt championed.
Personally, I'd rather see a shift to the Shavian alphabet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavian_alphabet), where each letter has one and only one sound so there's no question about how something is pronounced.
I no what u meen! I've sene scrabel players tri that.