$ 99 what a steal!

The sight of that turd and what he represents actually makes me a little sick with disgust.

First contact, das kapital world

Quote from: Hydra009 on December 16, 2022, 05:45:11 PM

First contact, das kapital world

It doesn't matter, since aliens don't exist.

Quote from: Hydra009 on December 17, 2022, 09:11:39 AM

2/3 + 2/3 + 2x(1/3) = 2
One diagonal slice across would do it.

Quote from: Unbeliever on December 17, 2022, 12:51:05 AMIt doesn't matter, since aliens don't exist.

They probably do. Space is pretty vast for us to be the only ones. Are aliens already here on Earth, spying on us, experimenting on us, and doing gods know what else? Nah. Will we find aliens sometime in the future, or will they find us? Maybe. We'll likely both be long gone before first contact is made.

Quote from: Blackleaf on December 17, 2022, 11:48:24 AMThey probably do. Space is pretty vast for us to be the only ones. Are aliens already here on Earth, spying on us, experimenting on us, and doing gods know what else? Nah. Will we find aliens sometime in the future, or will they find us? Maybe. We'll likely both be long gone before first contact is made.

I used to say that too. And instinctively it still feels not unlikely.

But i have come to realize that without knowing how likely or unlikely abiogenisis is to occur, given the right circumstances, it really can't  be said that it does seem likely that they exist. If all i have is intuition, i don't really have anything to go off of.

Lets say there are a million trillion inhabitable worlds out there. But what if the chance for abiogenesis is one in a billion trillion?
Onr single point of data, our own existence, does nothing to quantify the magnitude of that chance.

Quote from: Mr.Obvious on December 17, 2022, 12:48:18 PMI used to say that too. And instinctively it still feels not unlikely.

But i have come to realize that without knowing how likely or unlikely abiogenisis is to occur, given the right circumstances, it really can't  be said that it does seem likely that they exist. If all i have is intuition, i don't really have anything to go off of.

Lets say there are a million trillion inhabitable worlds out there. But what if the chance for abiogenesis is one in a billion trillion?
Onr single point of data, our own existence, does nothing to quantify the magnitude of that chance.

True. We can't quantify how common life is in the universe until we start finding more examples, however it seems more unlikely that Earth is the only planet with life on it. The Earth is estimated to be 4.5 billion years old. When was life thought to have first appeared on Earth? 4.2 billion years ago. That means there was only a period of about three hundred million years where Earth had no life on it. That might sound like a big number, but that's just a tiny sliver of Earth's history, when it was almost completely covered in magma. It's like the moment Earth had become just hospitable enough to not immediately kill it, life appeared. If life could appear so early in Earth's history, abiogenesis can't be so unlikely to happen that it hasn't happened before, even once, on another planet.

There's a lot we can't know yet. We can't know exactly how likely abiogenesis is to happen. We can't know how likely it is for life to become multicellular. We can't know how likely it is for an alien species to reach human-like intelligence. Especially since we're the only ones to arise in all of Earth's history. But if the chance of life is any bigger than zero, I'm certain there is life on at least one of the planets in the two trillion galaxies in the observable universe.

I read that as "Free speech abortion."