Humanities Section => Political/Government General Discussion => Topic started by: Solitary on August 10, 2014, 11:29:48 AM

Title: Who Are The Secret Societies That Control Our Lives?
Post by: Solitary on August 10, 2014, 11:29:48 AM Do secret societies control everything?  Yes they do, but it isn't who you think it is. Even paranoids have enemies.


The Straight Dope columns I find particularly interesting are the ones about secret societies: the Illuminati, the Bilderbergs, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Masons, etc. I'm not sure whether I should beat 'em, join 'em, or continue to relegate them to the land of paranoid delusions. Can you give me the Straight Dope?

â€" John La Duke

Cecil replies:

You’re missing the big picture, John. Sure, I could riff on the Illuminati, Skull and Bones, or the League of Hyrax â€" or I could tell you about the more insidious secretive societies that hide in plain sight. These organizations are far more dangerous than a bunch of balding ex-frat brothers sitting around naked in the woods plotting world domination. They work right out in the open, knowing the average person can’t fathom how deep the swamp really is.

Let’s start with the many secretive entities on the federal payroll, perhaps the most infamous being the National Security Agency. Every day NSA robosnoops intercept at least 1.7 billion e-mails, phone calls, and other electronic communications, looking for … well, we don’t know exactly, because no one is talking. We also don’t know the size of the NSA’s budget; its share of the $53 billion U.S. intelligence kitty is classified.

But evidently they get a good chunk. In October a heavily fortified top-secret NSA data center costing $1.5 billion will go into operation in Utah. Projected by some to consume $40 million in electricity per year, this mega installation has enough capacity to store hundreds of times the amount of data created in all human history. The idea is to protect us against terrorism and such. But who can say when some midlevel bureaucrats may take it into their heads to investigate the Tea Party, the Socialist Workers, or you?

Closely linked to the NSA is the vast anti-terrorism and homeland security apparatus erected after 9/11. A 2010 Washington Post investigation found 1,271 government organizations and 1,931 private companies were toiling away at numerous obscure security initiatives. Thirty-three buildings totaling 17 million square feet had been constructed in the D.C. area to house all those worker bees. What are they up to? Even the people at the top of the intelligence food chain don’t really know.

Another secretive agency is the Federal Reserve, which controls U.S. banking and monetary policy. The Fed’s deliberations are closed to the public, and its bylaws and codes of ethics are also secret. The idea is to prevent the intrusion of politics, but stuff happens. A recent General Accounting Office report noted that a New York Fed director had bought Goldman Sachs stock while the firm was receiving $12.9 billion via a bailout the Fed had engineered.

Finally, the most insidious secretive society of all â€" lobbyists. They don’t work for the government; typically they’re former government employees who put their insiders’ contacts and knowledge at the service of whatever private interest is willing to pay their steep rates. How steep? For a crude idea, divide the estimated $3.3 billion 2012 lobbying tab by the 12,400 known lobbyists, for an average of $266,000 per lobbyist. Acquiring votes ain’t cheap.

Who pays that kind of money? The National Rifle Association at $3 million is a piker compared to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, number one at $136 million. The rest of the top five might seem noncontroversial â€" the National Association of Realtors, Blue Cross/Blue Shield, General Electric, and the American Hospital Association. But think: what businesses are these people are in?

Still, we need to look at the even bigger picture. An enduring belief among progressives, clung to more fervently than ever in the age of WikiLeaks, is that greater transparency = better world. This is inarguably true of information. Your columnist and his henchpersons luxuriate in the ability to jack into open databases and download everything from federal homicide investigations by criminal code subsection to Chicago Transit Authority daily rail ridership by stop.

But transparency of decision-making is something else. In a TED talk from February, Harvard professor and political activist Larry Lessig observes that U.S. elections are a two-stage process: in stage one, the people with big bucks decide who the rest of us will get to vote for in stage two, namely the official elections.

In the manner of all TED lecturers, Lessig offers no useful guidance on how this process might be reformed, and at a fundamental level it can’t be. We live in a world of infinite possibilities; the body politic is equipped to choose among two or three. Reducing the pile from the former state to the latter is inevitably accomplished behind closed doors by a jostling mess of lobbyists, operatives, moneyed interests, do-gooders, harried bureaucrats, politicians of varying intelligence, integrity, and guts, and other interested parties.

I’ve participated in this shadowy process myself. Occasionally afterward I go to the public meeting at which the matter is nominally decided, or more often ratified (I live in Chicago, OK?), and I think: most of the people in this room have no clue.
:eek: Solitary
Title: Re: Who Are The Secret Societies That Control Our Lives?
Post by: stromboli on August 13, 2014, 10:15:17 AM
Quote"The world is being run by a sub variant of the human race that was once telepathic and benign. They were called the Demoluscan Dudascans, which was eventually shortened to "Dem Dudes." They numbered in the hundreds of thousands, and were almost immortal. Because of their telepathy were able to direct and control events easily. But over time they became corrupt and started fighting among themselves, causing wars to remove their opponents- since they were incapable of hiding from each other.

They now number in the thousands and have lost their telepathic abilities. They are not sure who is left and who is an enemy, so confusion reigns among them. But they are still very powerful, and move politically in ways they think will keep them in power. Thus chaos reigns in our world, and always will"

Quoted From the secret diary of Captain Hurley Asgradian, secret seeker of true events and shit
Title: Re: Who Are The Secret Societies That Control Our Lives?
Post by: Desdinova on August 13, 2014, 02:02:30 PM
My money is on the reptilian shapeshifters. Scary stuff.  Ooooooooooo!
Title: Re: Who Are The Secret Societies That Control Our Lives?
Post by: Solitary on August 13, 2014, 08:50:43 PM
Title: Re: Who Are The Secret Societies That Control Our Lives?
Post by: Berati on August 13, 2014, 10:50:23 PM
It's the Queen, the Vatican,the Gettys, the Rothschilds, aaannnndd Colonel Sanders before he went tits up.
Title: Re: Who Are The Secret Societies That Control Our Lives?
Post by: doorknob on August 16, 2014, 09:53:35 AM
IOW the government is corrupt?

Title: Re: Who Are The Secret Societies That Control Our Lives?
Post by: SGOS on August 16, 2014, 09:36:37 PM
I don't worry too much about who might be controlling our lives, but whoever it is that is controlling my mind is starting to scare me.  LOL
Title: Re: Who Are The Secret Societies That Control Our Lives?
Post by: Dreamer on August 17, 2014, 12:53:20 AM
I am.
Title: Re: Who Are The Secret Societies That Control Our Lives?
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on August 17, 2014, 07:34:39 AM
Send them this: