In response to that other thread, I thought I'd ask people this: What kind of quirky, non-evidence-based beliefs do you not believe in?
To keep people's posts from getting too bloated, let's narrow it down to a top 5 list per person. :) So, what are the top 5 of these beliefs that you find too absurd to take seriously?
1. The idea of the creator god is ridiculous. 2. The eternal heaven and hell idea is also a joke. 3 . The eternal soul idea is a joke too. 4.Religious dogmas and blind belief are poison. 5. At the moment I find the single big bang theory or the universe popping out from nothing ridiculous.
1. Any sort of god
2. Anything to do with Scientology
3. Heaven and Hell (either way lies insanity)
4. The idea that religious people have that video games, books, and movies will cause their children to behave as "sinners" I.e people who don't follow strict religious dogma
5. Forced Prayer and conversion
I can't give a entire list but I am not prone to fatalism or paranoia. I have trouble taking conspiracy theories seriously. I don't believe in "end of days", golden ages, prophesies, extraterrestrials...
Quote from: "GrinningYMIR"2. Anything to do with Scientology
Scientology really annoys me. I feel like heads of the Catholic, Protestant and Jewish religions, for better or worse, honestly believe in their faiths but the leaders of the Scientology "church" have manufactured this ridiculous pyramid scheme with the sole intent of ripping people off. Their litigious attacks on anyone who disagrees with them is reprehensible.
1. God
2. Ancient Aliens
3. Honest Republicans
4. Responsible Gun Owners
5. The criminal justice system
Quote. 1. The idea of the creator god is ridiculous. 2. The eternal heaven and hell idea is also a joke. 3 . The eternal soul idea is a joke too. 4.Religious dogmas and blind belief are poison. 5. At the moment I find the single big bang theory or the universe popping out from nothing ridiculous.
I'll second this, and add anything do to magical thinking and extra terrestrials visiting earth or helping mankind in any way. Solitary
I'm a nihilist
1)I don't believe in the existence of God or any other supernatural being
2)I don't believe in social values or morality.I believe they were created by humans but I do respect them because without any moral code, humanity would die out
3)I don't believe there is a meaning in life. Each person should find their own reason to live but nothing is absolute
4)I don't believe in the afterlife or in reincarnation
5) I don't believe in anything that can't be explained by science
Many people view nihilism as something depressing but I don't see it that way. To me it means spiritual freedom :)
Quote3)I don't believe there is a meaning in life. Each person should find their own reason to live but nothing is absolute
This is more existentialist then Nihilist, by the way.
Here's my list:
1.Religion
2. Violent video games destroy children's morality.
3. Homeopathic medicine
4. Astrology
5. Ghosts.
Quote from: "Hijiri Byakuren"In response to that other thread, I thought I'd ask people this: What kind of quirky, non-evidence-based beliefs do you not believe in?
To keep people's posts from getting too bloated, let's narrow it down to a top 5 list per person. :) So, what are the top 5 of these beliefs that you find too absurd to take seriously?
1) Don't believe in gods of any kind.
2) Don't believe in sayings like "what comes around goes around" or karma!
3) Don't believe in magic of any kind.
4) general don't believe in conspiracy theories unless well founded.
5) Don't believe in ghost or monsters like big foot or Lock Ness and things of that ilk.
I don't believe I'm not awesome.
I don't believe household clothing appliances *just* eat random socks. It's a conspiracy.
I don't believe two toothbrushes immediately following an H & E are entirely innocent.
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1. 9/11 "Truthers".
2. Moon landing was faked.
3. Alien encounters.
4. Miracles.
5. Ghosts.
Quote from: "Minimalist"1. God
2. Ancient Aliens
3. Honest Republicans
4. Responsible Gun Owners
5. The criminal justice system
Not only is this a noteworthy list. It is also arranged in descending order from most ridiculous to less ridiculous.
Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"I don't believe household clothing appliances *just* eat random socks. It's a conspiracy.
This is just preposterous. It's well documented that socks go missing.
Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"I don't believe household clothing appliances *just* eat random socks. It's a conspiracy.
I don't believe two toothbrushes immediately following an H & E are entirely innocent.
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Er..well:
- Religion and/or God
- Liberal democracy (though I like voting in elections and believe in equal rights)
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Quote from: "darsenfeld"Er..well:
- Religion and/or God
- Liberal democracy (though I like voting in elections and believe in equal rights)
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Does this mean you believe in a conservative government in which the supreme power is held by the people represented by a Conservative administration that has worked so good in the past? Equal rights for who? :roll: Solitary
No, liberal democracy doesn't work. And equal rights for all humans, period.
I don't believe in Beatles.
I don't believe in Beatles.
1) christ-insanity
2) mormonism lol
3) jehovah witnessity lol
4) Islam
5) Nothing manifesting itself into everything lol
Quote from: "Jason78"Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"I don't believe household clothing appliances *just* eat random socks. It's a conspiracy.
This is just preposterous. It's well documented that socks go missing.
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I figure deities are a given on this site, so I won't include them in my list.
1. The Afterlife - Death wouldn't actually be death. There is no evidence to conclude that there is some kind of force inside our brains that allows our conscious to exist beyond death. I guess you can lump souls in with this one.
2. Absolute Peace - Human nature will never allow this. As long as there are scarce resources, there will be war.
3. Fate - Nothing happens for a reason. Everything that happens comes down to chance. The universe is organized chaos.
4. Institutionalized Justice - Everyone's concept of what justice should be is different, so it's unfair to have a one-size-fits-all justice system based on the beliefs of few. I guess I have anarchist views?
5. Power - Something only has power because people believe it does. For instance, if Romans (this also extends to the Roman military) didn't believe Constantine had power as emperor, he would have been a nobody. You can also apply this to currency. Currencies have no value in and of themselves; they only have a certain value because people believe they have value.
Quote from: "Solitary"Quote from: "darsenfeld"Er..well:
- Religion and/or God
- Liberal democracy (though I like voting in elections and believe in equal rights)
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Does this mean you believe in a conservative government in which the supreme power is held by the people represented by a Conservative administration that has worked so good in the past? Equal rights for who? :roll: Solitary
er.. US conservatives are mentally ill... And? Are you one of them?
Also:
- 12 Years a slave made me think (I won't see it, I hate negative imagery). There was little wrong in slavery, as it was cruel, humans are cruel, and yes early modern Europeans valued universal compassion, eh? I don't believe slavery was wrong...
- In honour of International Women's Day, I don't believe in gender discrimination anywhere. If anything, as it's a UN-sponsored occasion, all UN member states should sign an agreement in which they agree to outlaw gender discrimination.
- That the USA is the greatest country ever. Compared to other major powers in history, it's effect on global civlisation is slight (well yeah, the Greeks gave us philosophy, the Romans gave us infrastructure, legal systems, language, etc..) but America hasn't spread its language, technology or culture to any other country, bar ICT perhaps or Nicki Minaj and KFC...
Quote from: "darsenfeld"- That the USA is the greatest country ever. Compared to other major powers in history, it's effect on global civlisation is slight (well yeah, the Greeks gave us philosophy, the Romans gave us infrastructure, legal systems, language, etc..) but America hasn't spread its language, technology or culture to any other country, bar ICT perhaps or Nicki Minaj and KFC...
Agree with the first part. The United States has it's ups and downs just as every country does (finally seeing that now that I'm living in another country). The United States is better in terms of convenience, but European countries seem happier and enjoy life more.
Don't agree with the second part. America has the biggest influence of any country on Earth right now. Hollywood (and you can extend this to the American entertainment industry in general), major international corporations, military, international policy, and some inventions such as the computer, the Internet, Windows, Mac OS, the airplane, the artificial heart, television, the refrigerator, and even zippers. That's culture and technology. And yes, I agree that the USA isn't really spreading English, but it is maintaining its status as the lingua franca of the world. If the USSR had won the Cold War, Russian may have eventually become the dominant language of the world.
Whether American government will profoundly influence the way future governments are established just as the Greeks and the Romans have is yet to be seen and we won't be able to make an accurate conclusion for another 500-1000 years.
Also you appear to have a very Euro-centric view on the world. What about the contributions of the people of Mesopotamia, the Egyptians, the Indians, and the Chinese?
Quote from: "Jason78"Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"I don't believe household clothing appliances *just* eat random socks. It's a conspiracy.
This is just preposterous. It's well documented that socks go missing.
If you'd talk to Susskind, it might be a wormhole connected to a black hole. Either that, or it's Polchinski's firewall. In any event, your socks are done.
Quote from: "Rex Rgis Verum"Quote from: "darsenfeld"- That the USA is the greatest country ever. Compared to other major powers in history, it's effect on global civlisation is slight (well yeah, the Greeks gave us philosophy, the Romans gave us infrastructure, legal systems, language, etc..) but America hasn't spread its language, technology or culture to any other country, bar ICT perhaps or Nicki Minaj and KFC...
Agree with the first part. The United States has it's ups and downs just as every country does (finally seeing that now that I'm living in another country). The United States is better in terms of convenience, but European countries seem happier and enjoy life more.
Don't agree with the second part. America has the biggest influence of any country on Earth right now. Hollywood (and you can extend this to the American entertainment industry in general), major international corporations, military, international policy, and some inventions such as the computer, the Internet, Windows, Mac OS, the airplane, the artificial heart, television, the refrigerator, and even zippers. That's culture and technology. And yes, I agree that the USA isn't really spreading English, but it is maintaining its status as the lingua franca of the world. If the USSR had won the Cold War, Russian may have eventually become the dominant language of the world.
Whether American government will profoundly influence the way future governments are established just as the Greeks and the Romans have is yet to be seen and we won't be able to make an accurate conclusion for another 500-1000 years.
Also you appear to have a very Euro-centric view on the world. What about the contributions of the people of Mesopotamia, the Egyptians, the Indians, and the Chinese?
I mentioned ICT and you mentioned it again?
And those were some examples...it's you can absolutely know the intent of others, even though number systems, gunpowder and the firearm, and algorithms, were not Western inventions....
Quote from: "darsenfeld"Quote from: "Solitary"Quote from: "darsenfeld"Er..well:
- Religion and/or God
- Liberal democracy (though I like voting in elections and believe in equal rights)
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Does this mean you believe in a conservative government in which the supreme power is held by the people represented by a Conservative administration that has worked so good in the past? Equal rights for who? :roll: Solitary
er.. US conservatives are mentally ill... And? Are you one of them?
WTF! I was being sarcastic to your Liberal Democracy doesn't work. I'm starting to think you are a troll. Where's Eve the best troll we ever had? :rolleyes: Solitary
It does work? Kindly state how?
Since you asked: A liberal democracy is a form of representative democracy with free and fair form of elections procedure and competitive political process. The most interesting feature of liberal democracy is that all adult citizens is given the right to vote regardless of race, gender or property ownership. A liberal democracy may take various constitutional forms such as constitutional republic, or federal republic, or constitutional monarchy, or presidential system, or parliamentary system, or a hybrid semi-presidential system.
For example, the countries such as United States, India, Germany or Brazil takes the form of a constitutional republic or sometimes the form of a federal republic. The countries such as United Kingdom, Japan, Canada or Spain take the form of a constitutional monarchy. A liberal democracy is also called as a bourgeois democracy or constitutional democracy.
All of this is to say that the democratic experiments represented by nations like the U.S. and others don't necessarily serve as true examples of democracies. Those that do are still too young to act as any real proof of whether a true democracy works. But what about theoretically?
Today liberal democracy can be found in almost all advanced capitalist societies and now extends, in one form or another, into parts of the former communist world and the developing world. An important question to ask in the light of this, is what is liberal democracy?
Liberal democracy is a form of representative and indirect democracy that operates through elections that in theory should allow all individuals within a sovereign nation state the right to choose who is to rule on their behalf. Liberal democracy came into existence with the emergence of the liberal state as well as law and order.
Its basis was upon the principle of limited government with checks and balances to ensure that individuals were protected from the state, such as an independent judiciary...
This is why it works in a true "liberal" democracy, and not in a "conservative" democracy. :roll:
The Republicans have forced sequestration on the country with their refusal to negotiate with President Obama or the Democrats. They know it will be devastating to the country, (their words not mine), and yet they did it anyway.
The Democrats had a bill in the Senate to end sequestration, which got 51 votes, but the Republicans filibustered it so it went nowhere. It would have been killed in the House anyway; just like almost every other bill that has passed the Senate.
President Obama put forth a proposal as well. A proposal that the Republicans fail to even acknowledge.
So it isn't just the House Republicans; it is the Senate Republicans; pretty much the entire party.
The Republicans are attempting to bring the country down piece by piece. Their hatred for the president overshadows their love of country. They want Obama and his administration to fail so badly, they are willing to bring down the country to do it.
The spending cuts in the sequester are going to damage our economy and the Defense Department. The Republicans know this and freely admit it. They are purposely causing this damage.
With these manufactured crises every couple of months, (debt ceiling, government shutdown, fiscal cliff etc.), the Republicans have effectively shut down the federal government. People around the world are seeing that a minority can hold the entire country hostage and stop democracy in its tracks.
We hold ourselves up as a model for the rest of the world. We promote ourselves as the best style of government. We attempt to "spread democracy" – as the Republicans call it – all around the world. Governments around the world can now say to their citizens: "See? Democracy doesn't work."
This damages our reputation, our standing in the world and the idea of democracy itself. This damage makes a little weaker on the world's stage. That in turn damages our national security and makes us less safe.
The weakening of America on the world's stage is also going to hinder our diplomats' ability to negotiate with other countries. This is damaging to our foreign policy.
We have a political party that has effectively turned our country into a one-party government. If the Republicans don't get exactly what they want, they will simply shut the government down like they have before.
The Republican Party is damaging our economy, defense, national security, foreign policy, and the very idea of democracy. How long are they going to be allowed to go on this way before we – the American people – rise up and tell them to stop?
Hopefully all of this damage won't be permanent.
Solitary
I do not believe in love.
I don't believe in playtypus, kangaroos, ice cream or tacos since they ain't in the babble.
1. Humanity
1-Religion.
2-A liberal with common sense.
3-Homosexuality being something you're born with.
4-Magic.
5-Conspiracy theories.
6-Karma.
7-Physic mediums.
8-Intuition.
9- Astrology.
Quote from: "HomophobicAtheist"1-Religion.
2-A liberal with common sense.
3-Homosexuality being something you're born with.
4-Magic.
5-Conspiracy theories.
6-Karma.
7-Physic mediums.
8-Intuition.
9- Astrology.
You went four over the limit, you are disqualified~
Quote from: "Solitary"Since you asked: A liberal democracy is a form of representative democracy with free and fair form of elections procedure and competitive political process. The most interesting feature of liberal democracy is that all adult citizens is given the right to vote regardless of race, gender or property ownership. A liberal democracy may take various constitutional forms such as constitutional republic, or federal republic, or constitutional monarchy, or presidential system, or parliamentary system, or a hybrid semi-presidential system.
For example, the countries such as United States, India, Germany or Brazil takes the form of a constitutional republic or sometimes the form of a federal republic. The countries such as United Kingdom, Japan, Canada or Spain take the form of a constitutional monarchy. A liberal democracy is also called as a bourgeois democracy or constitutional democracy.
All of this is to say that the democratic experiments represented by nations like the U.S. and others don't necessarily serve as true examples of democracies. Those that do are still too young to act as any real proof of whether a true democracy works. But what about theoretically?
Today liberal democracy can be found in almost all advanced capitalist societies and now extends, in one form or another, into parts of the former communist world and the developing world. An important question to ask in the light of this, is what is liberal democracy?
Liberal democracy is a form of representative and indirect democracy that operates through elections that in theory should allow all individuals within a sovereign nation state the right to choose who is to rule on their behalf. Liberal democracy came into existence with the emergence of the liberal state as well as law and order.
Its basis was upon the principle of limited government with checks and balances to ensure that individuals were protected from the state, such as an independent judiciary...
This is why it works in a true "liberal" democracy, and not in a "conservative" democracy. :roll:
The Republicans have forced sequestration on the country with their refusal to negotiate with President Obama or the Democrats. They know it will be devastating to the country, (their words not mine), and yet they did it anyway.
The Democrats had a bill in the Senate to end sequestration, which got 51 votes, but the Republicans filibustered it so it went nowhere. It would have been killed in the House anyway; just like almost every other bill that has passed the Senate.
President Obama put forth a proposal as well. A proposal that the Republicans fail to even acknowledge.
So it isn't just the House Republicans; it is the Senate Republicans; pretty much the entire party.
The Republicans are attempting to bring the country down piece by piece. Their hatred for the president overshadows their love of country. They want Obama and his administration to fail so badly, they are willing to bring down the country to do it.
The spending cuts in the sequester are going to damage our economy and the Defense Department. The Republicans know this and freely admit it. They are purposely causing this damage.
With these manufactured crises every couple of months, (debt ceiling, government shutdown, fiscal cliff etc.), the Republicans have effectively shut down the federal government. People around the world are seeing that a minority can hold the entire country hostage and stop democracy in its tracks.
We hold ourselves up as a model for the rest of the world. We promote ourselves as the best style of government. We attempt to "spread democracy" – as the Republicans call it – all around the world. Governments around the world can now say to their citizens: "See? Democracy doesn't work."
This damages our reputation, our standing in the world and the idea of democracy itself. This damage makes a little weaker on the world's stage. That in turn damages our national security and makes us less safe.
The weakening of America on the world's stage is also going to hinder our diplomats' ability to negotiate with other countries. This is damaging to our foreign policy.
We have a political party that has effectively turned our country into a one-party government. If the Republicans don't get exactly what they want, they will simply shut the government down like they have before.
The Republican Party is damaging our economy, defense, national security, foreign policy, and the very idea of democracy. How long are they going to be allowed to go on this way before we – the American people – rise up and tell them to stop?
Hopefully all of this damage won't be permanent.
Solitary
er.. it's for dopes.
though I like the freedom it brings.
Quote from: "Moriarty"1. Humanity
Fuck. I was going to say that :rollin:
Other than that, I don't believe in love. I never have. I never will.
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Edit: antithesis took that too... I cant win today :rollin:
Quote from: "PickelledEggs"Quote from: "Moriarty"1. Humanity
Fuck. I was going to say that :rollin:
Other than that, I don't believe in love. I never have. I never will.
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Edit: antithesis took that too... I cant win today :rollin:
You will believe in love someday. Going to sound completely feminine here but fuck it. That first look into your first child's eyes, you understand love. Other than that it's mostly bullshit.
Honestly, Mor. I just wanted to quote the song. I don't actually feel that way :lol:
Well you got me then~