Conservative atheist here. Not sure there are many on here but willing to give this page a try.
I'm sure you'll last long here...:roll:
When you can (after 10 posts), post a thread in the relevant section about the reasons you are homophobic.
Not sure if you're being sarcastic but hello.
I edited the post. I was being sarcastic.
Homophobic? Hope you come out of that.
I always support gay and lesbian rights, not only because it's right but because I felt like Atheists were in the same boat. Somehow or another they seem to have pulled ahead of us as it seems more acceptable in the U.S. to be homosexual than it is Atheist. :P
I'm the exact opposite and you will probably never meet anyone more left on the political spectrum. I mean if Marx were alive he would disown me. But I never judge.........outwardly anyway. Muahahaha.
Quote from: "The Skeletal Atheist"I'm sure you'll last long here...:roll:
When you can (after 10 posts), post a thread in the relevant section about the reasons you are homophobic.
Thanks for letting me know about the ten post thing. And I will.
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Quote from: "Moriarty"Homophobic? Hope you come out of that.
I always support gay and lesbian rights, not only because it's right but because I felt like Atheists were in the same boat. Somehow or another they seem to have pulled ahead of us as it seems more acceptable in the U.S. to be homosexual than it is Atheist. :P
I'm the exact opposite and you will probably never meet anyone more left on the political spectrum. I mean if Marx were alive he would disown me. But I never judge.........outwardly anyway. Muahahaha.
I just disagree with what they're doing and think it's wrong and unnatural. I'm not a religious asshole who wants any physical harm or death to come upon them.
:-D Welcome aboard HomophobicAtheist, I think, for now. At least you are honest, but being a conservative says it all, no explanations needed. Solitary
Quote from: "HomophobicAtheist"Quote from: "Moriarty"Homophobic? Hope you come out of that.
I always support gay and lesbian rights, not only because it's right but because I felt like Atheists were in the same boat. Somehow or another they seem to have pulled ahead of us as it seems more acceptable in the U.S. to be homosexual than it is Atheist. :P
I'm the exact opposite and you will probably never meet anyone more left on the political spectrum. I mean if Marx were alive he would disown me. But I never judge.........outwardly anyway. Muahahaha.
I just disagree with what they're doing and think it's wrong and unnatural. I'm not a religious asshole who wants any physical harm or death to come upon them.
A lot of religious folk think the same thing about Atheists. Just saying.
Quote from: "Moriarty"Quote from: "HomophobicAtheist"Quote from: "Moriarty"Homophobic? Hope you come out of that.
I always support gay and lesbian rights, not only because it's right but because I felt like Atheists were in the same boat. Somehow or another they seem to have pulled ahead of us as it seems more acceptable in the U.S. to be homosexual than it is Atheist. :P
I'm the exact opposite and you will probably never meet anyone more left on the political spectrum. I mean if Marx were alive he would disown me. But I never judge.........outwardly anyway. Muahahaha.
I just disagree with what they're doing and think it's wrong and unnatural. I'm not a religious asshole who wants any physical harm or death to come upon them.
A lot of religious folk think the same thing about Atheists. Just saying.
Religious people want a full scale genocide of gays and atheists.
Quote from: "HomophobicAtheist"Quote from: "Moriarty"Homophobic? Hope you come out of that.
I always support gay and lesbian rights, not only because it's right but because I felt like Atheists were in the same boat. Somehow or another they seem to have pulled ahead of us as it seems more acceptable in the U.S. to be homosexual than it is Atheist. :P
I'm the exact opposite and you will probably never meet anyone more left on the political spectrum. I mean if Marx were alive he would disown me. But I never judge.........outwardly anyway. Muahahaha.
I just disagree with what they're doing and think it's wrong and unnatural. I'm not a religious asshole who wants any physical harm or death to come upon them.
Lol the unnatural arguement. More than 1500 species of animals have been seen engaged in homosexuality, including long term courtship and relationships in animals capable of such. It's so unnatural that it occurs in nature!
As per wrong: why?
"Lol" at homosexuality being genetic and something you're born with.The fact that sexual orientation is not constant for many individuals, but can change over time suggests that at least part of sexual orientation is actually sexual preference. Attempts to find a "gay gene" have never identified any gene or gene product that is actually associated with homosexual orientation, with studies failing to confirm early suggestions of linkage of homosexuality. Are you going to bring up the hormone or finger length theory now? Both of which have been debunked over time.Logically speaking, if everyone's sexuality was expressed heterosexually, then humanity will survive and perpetuate our own kind for generations to come. But simply put, if everyone's sexuality was expressed homosexuality, we would go extinct. Therefore homosexuality is counter productive to the survival of the human race. Children need the stability of the traditional family. Children need a a mother and a father for healthy development. Not 2 fathers with one playing each gender role. Since homosexuality is learned it's more than likely two gay parents will force their children into it. Gay people only remain faithful to their partner around 20% of the time. Does that Sound healthy? Giving a foster child homosexual parents is a form of domestic abuse. Gays want to change the definition of marriage into their own and the media just loves it and glamorizes it. They have started their own "agenda" per say and undermines true marriage. Gay marriage is not a right and not allowing them to marry is NOT discrimination. Equal protection under the law was never meant to protect the enjoyment of what is immoral or harmful.Anal sex and lesbian sex is a misuse of what sexual relations were primarily intended to produce, children and intimacy solely between a man and a woman.Same sex couples should not be rewarded with the benefits of marriage, because immoral behavior should not be rewarded. It is not a matter of rights or fairness, if the act is immoral, why should that be praised or rewarded? There is so much more I could go on and on about but since you are most likely not going to read all of this it's really not worth any more of my time nor your time.
Quote from: "HomophobicAtheist""Lol" at homosexuality being genetic and something you're born with.The fact that sexual orientation is not constant for many individuals, but can change over time suggests that at least part of sexual orientation is actually sexual preference.
Define "many"
Quote from: "HomophobicAtheist"Attempts to find a "gay gene" have never identified any gene or gene product that is actually associated with homosexual orientation, with studies failing to confirm early suggestions of linkage of homosexuality. Are you going to bring up the hormone or finger length theory now? Both of which have been debunked over time.
citation needed
Quote from: "HomophobicAtheist"Logically speaking, if everyone's sexuality was expressed heterosexually, then humanity will survive and perpetuate our own kind for generations to come. But simply put, if everyone's sexuality was expressed homosexuality, we would go extinct.
If everyone decided to move to the city and work in cubicles we would go extinct even faster. If people get married and don't have kind (or don't get married and don't have kinds) you have the same "problem" as gays not having kids.
Quote from: "HomophobicAtheist"Children need the stability of the traditional family. Children need a a mother and a father for healthy development. Not 2 fathers with one playing each gender role.
citation needed
Quote from: "HomophobicAtheist"Since homosexuality is learned
citation needed
Quote from: "HomophobicAtheist"it's more than likely two gay parents will force their children into it.
Who forced the first gays into it?
Quote from: "HomophobicAtheist"Gay people only remain faithful to their partner around 20% of the time. Does that Sound healthy? Giving a foster child homosexual parents is a form of domestic abuse. Gays want to change the definition of marriage into their own and the media just loves it and glamorizes it. They have started their own "agenda" per say and undermines true marriage.
What exactly is "true marriage"? 14 year olds being married off to a 30 something for business and political gain? Multiple wives?
Quote from: "HomophobicAtheist"Gay marriage is not a right and not allowing them to marry is NOT discrimination.
How is denying someone what the supreme court has called a fundamental right not discrimination?
Quote from: "HomophobicAtheist"Equal protection under the law was never meant to protect the enjoyment of what is immoral or harmful.
Where did you make the case for immoral? Who gets to decide what's immoral or harmful? Is teaching evolution--the fundies think so. Interracial marriage--people used to say it was and it was once outlawed.
Quote from: "HomophobicAtheist"Anal sex and lesbian sex is a misuse of what sexual relations were primarily intended to produce, children and intimacy solely between a man and a woman.
"solely between a man and a woman" you clearly are not well versed in the history of sex. You think straights don't have anal or oral sex?
Quote from: "HomophobicAtheist"Same sex couples should not be rewarded with the benefits of marriage, because immoral behavior should not be rewarded. It is not a matter of rights or fairness, if the act is immoral, why should that be praised or rewarded?
You've still not made a case for immorality of gay [marriage]
Quote from: "HomophobicAtheist"There is so much more I could go on and on about but since you are most likely not going to read all of this it's really not worth any more of my time nor your time.
You were wrong with the first half of that sentence, but you are correct that reading it was a wast of time
Quote from: "HomophobicAtheist"Quote from: "Moriarty"Homophobic? Hope you come out of that.
I always support gay and lesbian rights, not only because it's right but because I felt like Atheists were in the same boat. Somehow or another they seem to have pulled ahead of us as it seems more acceptable in the U.S. to be homosexual than it is Atheist. :P
I'm the exact opposite and you will probably never meet anyone more left on the political spectrum. I mean if Marx were alive he would disown me. But I never judge.........outwardly anyway. Muahahaha.
I just disagree with what they're doing and think it's wrong and unnatural. I'm not a religious asshole who wants any physical harm or death to come upon them.
I seriously thought your username was sarcastic or ironic...
Well, anyway. Welcome
I'll believe that homosexuality is a choice when you fuck a guy in the ass and enjoy it. Until then, you are both wrong and an asshole.
But welcome anyway.
Do you know any gays? I have a couple of gay acquaintances. One used to be a close friend. He and his brother were both extremely effeminate, and it was no surprise when they came both came out as gay. I could never deny him the right to have sex with whomever will consent to, or to marry if he wants to.
Gay marriage is as good for humanity as any other sexual monogamy: it minimizes the spread of disease.
I also know a child who is being raised by a gay couple. He is my nephew's best friend. I hate to think that a supposedly rational atheist is going to think his parents have anything but love for him, or would do anything to separate them.
As for gay sex itself? Well I'm not gay, so of course two guys kissing is gross to me, and the rest only gets worse. But here's my reasoning. Old-people-sex and fat-people-sex is just as gross. Sex isn't always pretty. At least not to me. But I can't define what someone else's turn-ons are for them.
Let me leave you with a poem that was inspired by the governor of Indiana when I heard him giving his "I support traditional marriage" position.
I Like Pizza
Solomon Zorn
I like pizza
Most people do
I'm glad there's
Plenty of pizza
I don't like liver
Some people do
There are a lot of
Liver-eaters out there
I don't feel a need
To outlaw liver-eating
Just because
It disgusts me
How does their
Eating liver
Possibly affect my
Eating pizza
I'll still be free
To eat pizza
Even if the liver-eaters
Are liberated
Quote from: "HomophobicAtheist""Lol" at homosexuality being genetic and something you're born with.The fact that sexual orientation is not constant for many individuals, but can change over time suggests that at least part of sexual orientation is actually sexual preference. Attempts to find a "gay gene" have never identified any gene or gene product that is actually associated with homosexual orientation, with studies failing to confirm early suggestions of linkage of homosexuality. Are you going to bring up the hormone or finger length theory now? Both of which have been debunked over time.Logically speaking, if everyone's sexuality was expressed heterosexually, then humanity will survive and perpetuate our own kind for generations to come. But simply put, if everyone's sexuality was expressed homosexuality, we would go extinct. Therefore homosexuality is counter productive to the survival of the human race. Children need the stability of the traditional family. Children need a a mother and a father for healthy development. Not 2 fathers with one playing each gender role. Since homosexuality is learned it's more than likely two gay parents will force their children into it. Gay people only remain faithful to their partner around 20% of the time. Does that Sound healthy? Giving a foster child homosexual parents is a form of domestic abuse. Gays want to change the definition of marriage into their own and the media just loves it and glamorizes it. They have started their own "agenda" per say and undermines true marriage. Gay marriage is not a right and not allowing them to marry is NOT discrimination. Equal protection under the law was never meant to protect the enjoyment of what is immoral or harmful.Anal sex and lesbian sex is a misuse of what sexual relations were primarily intended to produce, children and intimacy solely between a man and a woman.Same sex couples should not be rewarded with the benefits of marriage, because immoral behavior should not be rewarded. It is not a matter of rights or fairness, if the act is immoral, why should that be praised or rewarded? There is so much more I could go on and on about but since you are most likely not going to read all of this it's really not worth any more of my time nor your time.
Whether or not homosexuality is "productive" is entirely irrelevant to the fact that it is a verifiably natural occurrence that has not, in millions of years of evolution, gone away. And yes, it has been going on for millions of years, or we would not see it across the whole damned animal kingdom like we've seen.
The fact that it's been around for so long would seem to call into question just how "unproductive" homosexuality really is. I somehow doubt that a vestigial trait would be so far-reaching as to pre-date the synapsid-diapsid split.
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"Homosexuality is non-productive" my ass. There are too many people on this planet as it is. Sooner rather than later, there won't be enough resources on the planet to accommodate all the people. There's barely enough now in a lot of countries and even a lot of areas of the US. I say let people be gay and slow the exponentially growing population. At least that way overpopulation is lightened up a bit. It's not like every time you fuck, it's in order to make a baby anyway.
Homosexuality will save the entire human population.
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lol I'm glad someone caught that.
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I read the whole thing and got timed out on my response, and it's not worth replying twice to. Please pick the misconception you're most sure of and argue that instead of a long list of them. Welcome, btw.
Quote from: "Mister Agenda"I read the whole thing and got timed out on my response, and it's not worth replying twice to. Please pick the misconception you're most sure of and argue that instead of a long list of them. Welcome, btw.
Just hit the back button next time, get your reply back usually. Works for me anyway.
Homosexuality is apparent in many species, but homophobia is apparent in only one. I guess the OP just found his place in the tree of life. Interesting that in his user name he seems make his homophobia his main pitch.... doesn't sound promising... :roll:
wow, too much stupid to re-post it. Simply my friend, gays are the consequence of a multi sexual being. You of course will stumble back in an almost drunken stuper and declare that multi-sexualuality is nonsense. However. 1.5 to 2% of the entire human population are born with both sexual organs to a varying degree. This would suggest to reasonable and intelligent people that there is a physical androgyny among humans, and if one is capable of thinking to logical conclusions, one would also assume that alongside physical would be psychological androgyny. It's really not that hard.
btw. your name is kind of long.
whenever I address you, I'm just going to type "homo" because I'm lazy
Quote from: "HomophobicAtheist"I just disagree with what they're doing and think it's wrong and unnatural. I'm not a religious asshole who wants any physical harm or death to come upon them.
You're using a machine built out of silicon and plastic to send messages all around the world, yet you think homosexuality is wrong and unnatural?
I imagine you live a purely natural lifestyle where you live naked in a tree eating nuts and berries.
One thing: even if homosexuality was a choice (it's not) why would it matter to the morality of it all? As long as it's consenting adults I don't see the harm in it.
People dye their hair all the time, a clear choice, but I don't see anyone ranting against it.
No one tries to ban hair dying.
No one tries to ban socks with flip flops even though that is demonstrably terrible.
Just because something isn't natural or is a choice doesn't mean it's bad. You have to demonstrate that it in and of itself is harmful to say it's morally bad.
Quote from: "HomophobicAtheist"Conservative atheist here. Not sure there are many on here but willing to give this page a try.
What a bunch of BS. You're homophobic why? What good reason to you as an atheist have to judge anything?
Irish.
Quote from: "irish"Quote from: "HomophobicAtheist"Conservative atheist here. Not sure there are many on here but willing to give this page a try.
What a bunch of BS. You're homophobic why? What good reason to you as an atheist have to judge anything?
Irish.
"You're about as useful as a poopy flavored lollipop."--Patches
Quote from: "irish"Quote from: "HomophobicAtheist"Conservative atheist here. Not sure there are many on here but willing to give this page a try.
What a bunch of BS. You're homophobic why? What good reason to you as an atheist have to judge anything?
Irish.
I have to thank you then laugh at the lack of self awareness.
Walks in, sees the disco ball smashed to bits on the floor. Obviously no love lost here...
You do realize you're making a big deal out of the adult version of cooties, right? You don't like gays because it makes you feel "icky."
People will be different from you. It's a fact of life. We can't all be homogeneous. Variation is the driving force of life, and always has been.
And no, nature does not always use the "parent begets children" method of ensuring gene transfer. For example, ants work together to ensure the queen survives long enough to reproduce even though all the workers will never get a chance. Why? Because the queen shares some of the same genes as the workers. Gays are about as useful as menopausal women in the group. They typically don't reproduce or do so sparingly, but are invaluable to helping the next generation of a group of relatives who share many of the same genes. When resources are rare, then quantity of offspring is counter effective to quality of offspring. This is just one manner in which gays could have evolved with a natural purpose. Remember, evolution is usually from the perspective of the gene, not so much the individual or the species.