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Started by Sal1981, January 28, 2020, 09:04:46 PM

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Shiranu

#46
Quote from: Hydra009 on January 31, 2020, 05:54:02 PM
The number of cases jumped from just shy of 10,000 yesterday to 11,300 right now.  The numbers outside China seem to be similarly climbing.  A lot of new countries on the tally, which is really worrying.  I thought this could stay relatively contained, but it looks like it's going to be a global phenonemon.

Get plenty of sleep and wash your hands regularly, everyone!

Yeah, I'm pretty much fucked if it spreads. I face-to-face interact with several hundred people a day, 4-5 days a week, handling cash.

Tempted to stock up on water and canned soup because I know my luck, and when I inevitably get sick just quarantine myself in my house and try to stay hydrated and nourished enough.


Could be worse; in Australia they literally let a guy who was showing symptoms on a flight from Wuhan to Singapore to Melbourne leave the airport and travel around the city for two days before being diagnosed. Who knows how hard Melbourne might be hit from that.
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Shiranu

Also, this is what things like the Spanish Flu and Black Death are so, so, so, SO important to teach about instead of sweeping under the rug like we do; large scale diseases like this are incredibly historically prevalent and not at all shocking in the slightest if you know your history. I mean, only a hundred years ago between 50-100 million people died to the flu... now consider how much smaller the Earth's population was and how it wasn't nearly as interlinked as it is today.

The flu is always terrifying, but tuberculosis... that one is truly terrifying and the most likely to really fuck humanity up sooner rather than later.
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Baruch

Only now, is Australia planning on quarantining on Christmas Island.

Don't handle paper money, that is a major virus vector.  Insist on people using debit/credit card.  If they can "swipe" their own, let them.  If not, you can wear latex gloves to avoid touching their junk.

Like I said, turmeric and ginger soup is good for the respiratory system.
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Baruch

Quote from: Shiranu on January 31, 2020, 07:43:25 PM
Also, this is what things like the Spanish Flu and Black Death are so, so, so, SO important to teach about instead of sweeping under the rug like we do; large scale diseases like this are incredibly historically prevalent and not at all shocking in the slightest if you know your history. I mean, only a hundred years ago between 50-100 million people died to the flu... now consider how much smaller the Earth's population was and how it wasn't nearly as interlinked as it is today.

The flu is always terrifying, but tuberculosis... that one is truly terrifying and the most likely to really fuck humanity up sooner rather than later.

Living near the Navajo Reservation ... they get tuberculosis easy if they spend time in a dirt floor hogan, instead of a trailer.  Otherwise this is pretty uncommon in the US.
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Hydra009

Quote from: Shiranu on January 31, 2020, 07:18:07 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty much fucked if it spreads. I face-to-face interact with several hundred people a day, 4-5 days a week, handling cash.
Same.  My natural introversion would likely save me if not for the need to earn cash for basic expenses.  Instead, I'm just a node in a web of misery and destruction.  And the disease seems nasty, too.  😷

Shiranu

Quote from: Baruch on January 31, 2020, 07:47:10 PM
Living near the Navajo Reservation ... they get tuberculosis easy if they spend time in a dirt floor hogan, instead of a trailer.  Otherwise this is pretty uncommon in the US.

For now. But if it evolves, as it is prone to do... look out.
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Baruch

#52
Quote from: Shiranu on January 31, 2020, 08:17:27 PM
For now. But if it evolves, as it is prone to do... look out.

All things evolve.  And when that happens, some lucky person gets to be patient zero ;-(

Quarantine is now up to 63 million.  Greatest in history.  But China did it about 14 days too late ;-(  Megadeath will only happen if truck drivers get sick.  The modern city only has 3 days of food.  Any population is 4 meals away from chaos.
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Mermaid

Quote from: Baruch on January 31, 2020, 07:45:27 PM


Like I said, turmeric and ginger soup is good for the respiratory system.
How? Do you have any data?
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Mermaid

Quote from: Baruch on January 29, 2020, 07:28:09 PM
Soup made with turmeric and ginger kills respiratory problems.
That's bunk.
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Baruch

#55
Quote from: Mermaid on February 01, 2020, 10:27:34 AM
How? Do you have any data?

Health food market.  Raw tumeric and raw ginger.  Not the processed kind.  Put cabbage etc in, the tumeric and ginger flavors the chicken broth.  Don't overcook.

My daughter swears by it, who is health conscious and diets.  I helped make the last batch.  I have tried it, want some more anytime I cough.  A bit bitter to taste.

The tumeric gets on your hands, leaves yellow stains.  Could help by itself, if you act out in public, giving people the thought you are a plague victim ;-)

Daughter also recommends pickled ginger, but processing food destroys good molecules.  I suspect kimchee cabbage also kills germs (but not viruses).  Chili in general is good for you, particularly if you are in a hot 3rd world climate.

Bunk?  All reality is bunk ... because history is bunk (see Henry Ford).
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Baruch

Meanwhile ...

"NOT SATIRE: WIRED SUGGESTS JUST LETTING CORONAVIRUS RUN RAMPANT" ... really woke people realize that viruses and bacteria are oppressed by speciesists.  Many Future-ologists want a planet with a much smaller population.  That is not a conspiracy theory?
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Baruch

12 Monkeys - Researchers think they detect signs of genetic manipulation by humans in Wuhan coronavirus.  One insertion looks like it came from HIV!

The rate of exposure is one person who has it, and doesn't know yet, will infect 3 others before they are hospitalized.  Hospitalization is 25%, even if the fatality rate is about 3%.  The fatality rate is only that low, because of available medical assistance for the less hurt.  China building 3 new hospitals, instantly, to triage victims, about 100,000 beds.  Not first class accommodation like in US hospitals.  Like pictures of Spanish Flu.
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Baruch

One estimate had confirmed cases at 10,000 in China, but actual is 9 times larger, 90,000 because of Chinese new year travel.  A new epidemiological model thinks there will be 128 million infected by Feb 20.

"CNN Is Angry That Too Many White People Are Trying To Stop The Coronavirus Spreading" ... so is CNN working with Wired?
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Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
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Don't do that.

Baruch

Phillipines deported 500 Chinese citizens, over fears of pandemic.  Italy has 300,000 Chinese guest workers.
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Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.