Started by Hijiri Byakuren, July 24, 2016, 11:14:31 PM
Quote from: doorknob on September 06, 2016, 01:21:16 PMno discussion is pointless. If you don't like our discussion then don't bother reading it. Stop trying to shut people up.
Quote from: Nonsensei on September 06, 2016, 05:52:18 AMAs usual on these forums and everywhere else, the discussion is long on causes, reasons, motivations, agendas, and so forth.And glaringly short on solutions, suggested courses of action, plans for the future, ideas to repair damage.I get the feeling that it's because there is no practical solution to be had. That the only thing that can truly correct racial tension is time and education. That the controversy of this issue is a manifestation of our powerlessness to summon Martin Luther King Jr.'s dream before it is damn well good and ready to arrive, and that until it does the topic has no practical use as anything other than a political club used to beat opponents into submission.For example, we can agree that cops too readily shoot black people. What's the solution to that? Prosecution? That only ensures that cops who shoot black people without cause go to jail. It does nothing to prevent other racist cops from continuing to have a hair trigger around black suspects. New training? Forgive me if I put less than absolute faith in the ability of training to erase racial bias in a police officer.Many if not all of the racial issues in this country have the same problem: no solution. No magic button to push that ends racism. You might say changes can be made and laws passed that enable the social progress necessary to eliminate racism from our society, but laws and changes like that HAVE been implemented in the past yet, according to the "black community" racism is still as healthy as ever.So, is this discussion pointless? Is there even anything to be done here or are we just exchanging one-ups?
Quote from: Nonsensei on September 06, 2016, 02:58:22 PMITP guy tries to get me to stop trying to shut people up by essentially telling me to shut up. Three claps for you sir.But I'm not trying to shut people up. I'm proposing a suggestion that these issues have no Acton able solution. Can I assume that, since you retreated from the main point of my post and decided to give me snark over some insignificant phrase, that you either agree with me or can't figure out how to argue against it?