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Started by randomvim, September 11, 2016, 03:14:56 AM

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Cavebear

Quote from: Mr.Obvious on January 12, 2019, 02:55:01 AM
Try again.

Belgium had not the strength to resist a German attack.  As someone said "Germany is too powerful for Europe, yet not powerful enough for the world".

Kissinger?
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

#406
Quote from: Cavebear on January 12, 2019, 03:00:20 AM
Belgium had not the strength to resist a German attack.  As someone said "Germany is too powerful for Europe, yet not powerful enough for the world".

Kissinger?

Yes they can, in 1914.  Are you Neville Chamberlain?

Kissinger is a traitorous scum.  He makes Darth Cheney look like a cub scout.

Mr Obvious was talking, awhile back, about Belgian collaboration in WW II.  I believe that, and communist subversion prior to Hitler's attack on the Soviet Union in 1941, were the primary reasons for the fall of the Francophone region to Hitler.  DeGaulle was the only patriot in France at the time.  King Macron I just cut a deal with Stazi Merkel ... to combine the French and German militaries.  Treason runs deep in Revolutionary France, revolution and counter-revolution.  Mr Obvious can't be happy with the Yellow Jackets.  Will he join The Resistance aka Communist resistance to Capitalism?  This time he has to ally himself with the new Franco-German Wehremacht.

Historians have tried to make out that the fall of Belgium and France in 1940 were completely due to the master race aspect of German nationalism.  This served the post war German recovery well.  The swiftness of the fall surprised everyone, including Hitler.  The prior Phony War was the false hope that Hitler would attack the Soviet Union first.  Stalin knew this, and made a pact with Hitler deliberately, to let the West bleed white.  He had wanted to make a pact with the West, but with the usual stupidity, was refused.  And Stalin was disappointed that the Western front didn't drag on for 4 years, like it did the first time.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on January 12, 2019, 08:17:28 AM
Yes they can, in 1914.  Are you Neville Chamberlain?

Kissinger is a traitorous scum.  He makes Darth Cheney look like a cub scout.

Mr Obvious was talking, awhile back, about Belgian collaboration in WW II.  I believe that, and communist subversion prior to Hitler's attack on the Soviet Union in 1941, were the primary reasons for the fall of the Francophone region to Hitler.  DeGaulle was the only patriot in France at the time.  King Macron I just cut a deal with Stazi Merkel ... to combine the French and German militaries.  Treason runs deep in Revolutionary France, revolution and counter-revolution.  Mr Obvious can't be happy with the Yellow Jackets.  Will he join The Resistance aka Communist resistance to Capitalism?  This time he has to ally himself with the new Franco-German Wehremacht.

Historians have tried to make out that the fall of Belgium and France in 1940 were completely due to the master race aspect of German nationalism.  This served the post war German recovery well.  The swiftness of the fall surprised everyone, including Hitler.  The prior Phony War was the false hope that Hitler would attack the Soviet Union first.  Stalin knew this, and made a pact with Hitler deliberately, to let the West bleed white.  He had wanted to make a pact with the West, but with the usual stupidity, was refused.  And Stalin was disappointed that the Western front didn't drag on for 4 years, like it did the first time.

Well, that depends on whom you think to whom you think Kissinger was traitorous.  He certainly understood Germany, and that was valuable to the US.  And it IS true that the French fell in WWII about as fast as a bad souffle.  I won't blame Belgium (small nation, big States, gets walked over from time to time).

But I think Germany is not now what it used to be.  It knows it won't be allowed to conquor anything.  Neither will France or Great Britain.  All they have is Europe among the US, China, and Russia.  So, perhaps peace will fall on that unhappy peninsula of Asia after all the centuries.

I think Germany and France and Britain have earned some peace. 

Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on January 12, 2019, 08:42:13 AM
Well, that depends on whom you think to whom you think Kissinger was traitorous.  He certainly understood Germany, and that was valuable to the US.  And it IS true that the French fell in WWII about as fast as a bad souffle.  I won't blame Belgium (small nation, big States, gets walked over from time to time).

But I think Germany is not now what it used to be.  It knows it won't be allowed to conquor anything.  Neither will France or Great Britain.  All they have is Europe among the US, China, and Russia.  So, perhaps peace will fall on that unhappy peninsula of Asia after all the centuries.

I think Germany and France and Britain have earned some peace.

Kissinger, in spite of serving in the US Army in WW II (refugee secular German Jew), operated a Machiavellian State Dept for President Nixon and since then has been the elder statesman for the Bilderburgers.  His favorite politicians are all Europeans of the Napoleonic period.  No Americans.  He was basically a German temporarily living in the US, who went back to his home country after making it big in the US.  He despises the average soldier, something I will never ever forgive.  He was one, once.  Traitor!
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

mosstoss

I am atheist because religion is an institution, a very highly organized domain that aims to control human action. It is oppressive, intolerant, and all-demanding. It does not instill awe (in existence); rather it feeds regurgitated answers to people who have not yet even begun to ask questions. It divides people; it feeds on and strengthens gender-, class-, caste-related differences.

Plu

I'm an atheist because I don't believe in any gods... what other reasons are there?

Halkenburg

#411
I learned about critical thinking and formal logic for the first time at the ripe age of 15 when I was studying math in high school. I started questioning my faith soon after that and it didn't take long for me to reach the conclusion that I can't substantiate the things I had believed in all my life until that point.

Baruch

#412
Quote from: Halkenburg on January 27, 2019, 04:55:14 AM
I learned about critical thinking and formal logic for the first time at the ripe age of 15 when I was studying math in college. I started questioning my faith soon after that and it didn't take long for me to reach the conclusion that I can't substantiate the things I had believed in all my life until that point.

German universities have English outreach.  I have studied some of their quantum communication theory a few years ago.  Hakurei Reimu (pen name) is a statistician who posts here, but he doesn't have a teaching attitude.  If I have some math questions, are you open to assisting?  For example ...

http://www.didaktik.physik.uni-erlangen.de/quantumlab/english/index.html ... and also ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V49i_LM8B0E

I have a side interest in abstract algebraic logic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_algebraic_logic

If interested, we can adjourn this to the math section of course.

On the agnosticism/atheism ... well, many here have epistemological objections to theism.  Coming from psychology, I do not.  Empiricist vs rationalist divide ... Apollonian vs Dionysian (per Nietzsche).

We tried to get a Godel-Escher-Bach discussion group going once also.  That might be more your speed.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Cavebear

Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Cavebear

Quote from: Plu on January 27, 2019, 04:11:39 AM
I'm an atheist because I don't believe in any gods... what other reasons are there?

It is possible I may have misunderstood your previous posts...
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Plu

Quote from: Cavebear on January 30, 2019, 08:21:43 AM
It is possible I may have misunderstood your previous posts...

That's certainly a possibility. Did you think I was some form of theist?

Cavebear

Quote from: Plu on January 30, 2019, 08:24:33 AM
That's certainly a possibility. Did you think I was some form of theist?

Yeah...  Some are tricky.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Plu

Yeah. Some of them are just like normal people :wink:

Not usually the ones that show up here, though.

Blackleaf

Quote from: Plu on January 30, 2019, 10:35:46 AM
Yeah. Some of them are just like normal people :wink:

Not usually the ones that show up here, though.

Yeah. We seem to get all the crazy ones. Makes sense, though. Why would a Christian go to a a site called "Atheist Forums" unless they were looking for a fight?
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville

Unbeliever

It even seems that some of them actually think they can convert us to whatever form of theism they adhere to! Those can be fun - for a while.
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman