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Started by PickelledEggs, August 26, 2014, 06:28:36 PM

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Mr.Obvious

The new atla netflix teaser trailer actually looks pretty nice.

Let us hope it can bring the Balance.
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Blackleaf

Quote from: Mr.Obvious on November 10, 2023, 05:03:50 AMThe new atla netflix teaser trailer actually looks pretty nice.

Let us hope it can bring the Balance.

The creators of the original show were brought into the project, but they quickly realized they were just there to give the show the appearance of legitimacy. Their input was ignored, and so they left. I doubt this show will be any good.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

drunkenshoe

I've been watching Mandalorian. I liked it.
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Mr.Obvious

Quote from: Blackleaf on November 10, 2023, 12:20:55 PMThe creators of the original show were brought into the project, but they quickly realized they were just there to give the show the appearance of legitimacy. Their input was ignored, and so they left. I doubt this show will be any good.

Well, I know, but they weren´t the only people involved in making the original. They are not the end all of the discussion.

Now look: it may yet flop big. Very good chance of that.
But... sofar, on the very limited data, it looks pretty damn nice.
If one piece can do it, it must technically be possible.
Will it be better than the original? Probably not. Am I going to give it a chance. Probably yes.
"If we have to go down, we go down together!"
- Your mum, last night, requesting 69.

Atheist Mantis does not pray.

Blackleaf

Quote from: Mr.Obvious on November 10, 2023, 03:24:00 PMWell, I know, but they weren´t the only people involved in making the original. They are not the end all of the discussion.

Now look: it may yet flop big. Very good chance of that.
But... sofar, on the very limited data, it looks pretty damn nice.
If one piece can do it, it must technically be possible.
Will it be better than the original? Probably not. Am I going to give it a chance. Probably yes.

Wasn't the author of One Piece heavily involved in the creation of the live action show?
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Mr.Obvious

Quote from: Blackleaf on November 10, 2023, 03:27:03 PMWasn't the author of One Piece heavily involved in the creation of the live action show?

Yeah, but again, they aren´t the end all of things.

"If we have to go down, we go down together!"
- Your mum, last night, requesting 69.

Atheist Mantis does not pray.

Hydra009

Well, Loki season 2 was certainly something.  Not quite sure what, but definitely something.  They certainly have the timey wimey stuff on lock, though the plot is such a tangled mess that I'm not quite sure if it'll ever become perfectly linear again.

Blackleaf

Quote from: Mr.Obvious on November 10, 2023, 03:38:29 PMYeah, but again, they aren´t the end all of things.



Maybe the involvement of the original authors isn't required for a good remake, but it's definitely a bad sign when those authors are there, and they end up leaving because all of their input is ignored. If the people making the show were actual fans, they wouldn't be using the original creators as figureheads.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

the_antithesis

So, I just finished re-watching Space Academy


A show from the mid-seventies that I haven't seen in forty years. It was kind of fun seeing what scenes jogged an ancient memory, but overall the show is dog shit, but kind of interesting dog shit. It has rather impressive effects for a mid-70's children's show, but it's still obviously low budget.

Space Academy stars Jonathan Harris (Lost In Space's Dr Smith) as Commander Gampu. I think somewhere I'd read that his character was originally going to be "grandpa" and a patriarch of a spacefaring family before the concept changed.

The only other noteworthy actor that I'll cover here is Pamelyn Ferdin as Laura. She has a voice that's like a white hot poker right through my skull, but familiar. Where had I heard that voice before? Then I remembered, the episode of the Brady Bunch where Jan gets the brown wig. Jesus christ, how did I remember that? She was also the voice of Lucy in several Peanuts specials.

The shows are kinda like Star Trek where they start in a typical day and then they encounter something and then have to solve the problem. It is low budget. They have, like four sets? I think? The bridge with hallway, the planet soundstage, maybe one or two more which is probably the bridge redressed. One episode had aliens that were flashlight spots on the wall. Another tried to pass off smoke from a smoke machine as some kind of alien force. The show is heavily plotted as solutions seem to come out of nowhere for no reason. It's written for children, but it still doesn't gel. In one episode, character made note of the lessons they learned, and they got none of that shit from the plot.

Overall, it's pretty cringeworthy. Sadly, it only lasted 15 episodes. The real mystery is why when Harry Potter was big and every imaginable school setting was being greenlit that Space Academy wasn't rebooted? Guess no one else remembers this shit.

But this isn't the end of the Space Academy. Oh, no. There is a spin-off that I'm rewatching now...

Mr.Obvious

Quote from: Blackleaf on November 11, 2023, 12:27:18 AMMaybe the involvement of the original authors isn't required for a good remake, but it's definitely a bad sign when those authors are there, and they end up leaving because all of their input is ignored. If the people making the show were actual fans, they wouldn't be using the original creators as figureheads.

True, and that is by and large not a good good thing.

But i´ve watched the teater. Don´t know if you have or not. And for now, it does look good.

I reserve all rights to later hate it and want to kill it with fire.
But on this first step, they have not faltered.
"If we have to go down, we go down together!"
- Your mum, last night, requesting 69.

Atheist Mantis does not pray.

Hydra009

Aw Jeez, the latest episode of Rick and Morty was one of the most action-packed of the whole series!


Mr.Obvious

We are rewatching stranger things. Slowly. In part for freshening up by the time the final season finally gets released

Just finishing up season 1 right now. Love the show.


One thing that never bothered me, but perhaps it should have, is something regarding the demogorgon.

Spoiler warning

[Spoiler]
The demogorgon seems impervious to bulletfire. Yet hitting it with a spiked bat in season 1 or cutting it with a sword in season 4 can inflict massive damage.
It hardly flinches from handguns or half a dozen smg's or ak 47s going full throttle.
Yet when they take it on with a melee weapon, it clearly hurts the beast.
In season 4, this seems to due to it being weakened by fire beforehand: perhaps burning away some protective substance on its skin or something
But in season 1, bullets still do jack shit after the demogorgon gets set ablaze by jonathan.

I've heard people call bullshit on this. And depending hoW the showmakers tackle it in the final season, the critics may be right.

But my headcanon has always been this:
The demogorgon comes from a different dimension. One where obviously the laws of physics are slightly different to ours. See no further than number one's first journey into the proto-upside down.
In this place, higher velocity impact does not lead to higher damage, due to this 'upside down physics'.
The monster either isn't weak to the high impact damage due to this, AND/OR it warps the physics in our world as it traverses into our world.
We see how the upside down infects and alters our dimension, in season 2, after all.

I dunno. It makes sense in my head.
But i never have seen someone make the argument.
And i love the show, so the less i or anyone else gets stuck on what could otherwise be a plothole, the better.

I just hope they don't ruin my heacanon in the final season.
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"If we have to go down, we go down together!"
- Your mum, last night, requesting 69.

Atheist Mantis does not pray.

Gawdzilla Sama

Monarch, Legacy of Monsters, epi. 1. Seems to have potential. Up to Epi. 4 on Apple +. 

Spoilers: https://www.cbr.com/monarch-legacy-of-monsters-mcu-tv-blueprint/
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Hydra009


Hydra009

#1559

I really really want to like this, but it's a bit late for comeback.  15 5 years too late.  I'm not super happy about the setting, either.

Supposedly, while most people are struggling to survive on a tribal level in shanty towns or prisons or basically medieval hilltop communities - there's an enormous community near the Great Lakes and miraculously, still with modern amenities.  Imho, it's far too clean and modern for the setting, which is gritty to the point of being quite literally centered on Grime.  The internal logic doesn't make much sense, either.  For example, how tf do you get a combat helicopter supplied and airborne and engaging targets with rocket pods in a setting where they obviously can no longer be supplied or maintained?  Bear in mind that in this setting, people are using horses because cars no longer function because gas is too scarce and/or the gasoline has gone bad (this is a real thing), farming their own food, sewing their own clothes, and making their own bullets, which aren't very good (guns have largely been supplanted by arrows or knives or good ol' fashioned spears and clubs)

This unbelievably modern community transparently exists only as a quick-and-dirty way to wrap up the series and it will likely serve the same function for the TV audience.  Imho, it should have been Grimes' community gradually reclaiming and rebuilding, but that would realistically take a long, long time.

I'll probably check it out, but I'll be amazed if they can pull this off in a believable, satisfying way.