Started by stromboli, July 21, 2014, 05:39:56 PM
QuoteIn his latest video, host of National Geographicâ€™s Brain Games and techno-poet, Jason Silva, explores the universeâ€™s tendency to self-organize. Biology, he says, seems to have agency and directionality toward greater complexity, and humans are the peak.â€œItâ€™s like human beings seem to be the cutting edge,â€ Silva says. â€œThe evolutionary pinnacle of self-awareness becoming aware of its becoming.â€I know Silva isnâ€™t saying evolution ends with humans in our current form. He thinks technology is driving evolution at an accelerating pace. And indeed, the videoâ€™s opening quote from Kevin Kelly is far from human-centric, â€œThe arc of complexity and open-ended creation in the last four billion years is nothing compared to what lies ahead.â€But the line about humans being the â€œevolutionary pinnacleâ€ reminded me of a trap weâ€™ve fallen into time and againâ€"the temptation to place ourselves at the center of all things. We once believed the cosmos revolved around the Earth. Now, we know the Earth is a vanishingly tiny fragment of metal and rock revolving around an average yellow star.The solar system is neither unique nor centrally located in the galaxy. Weâ€™re on the outskirts of the Milky Wayâ€"one of hundreds of billions of galaxies.If we now know our place in space isnâ€™t at all special, the same may be said of our place in time and on the evolutionary ladder. Humans are perhaps the first rung to develop consciousness (on Earth), but by no means will the process end with us.In a recent interview, Cambridgeâ€™s Martin Rees put human evolution in context as only a cosmologist can. Rees says most of us are probably aware that humans are the result of four billion years of evolutionâ€"but we tend to think weâ€™re the apex of the process.Most folks have little notion of what he calls the â€œfar future.â€ Astronomers, on the other hand, know that the sun is middle-aged and that the Earth has at least as much life ahead of it as it has behind. The universe itself may have an infinite future. Weâ€™re perhaps only halfway (or less) â€œin the emergence of ever greater complexity.â€â€œAny creatures who will be alive to witness the death of the sun wonâ€™t be humanâ€"they could be as different from us as we are from protozoa. Indeed future evolution is going to take place not on the Darwinian time scale, of natural selection, but on the technology time scale, because weâ€™re obtaining the capacity to modify the genome.â€Add accelerating evolutionary processes to cosmological deep time, and a future when intelligence has evolved beyond humans, indeed, a future far surpassing even our wildest guesses becomes an inevitabilityâ€"if our descendants can make it that far.
Quote from: SGOS on July 21, 2014, 08:14:46 PMIf I understand this right (and I probably don't) technology advances evolution? I'm not sure I buy that. Evolution does it's own thing, and I don't think man has any control over that. Perhaps technology changes the environment which may require new species to evolve to cope with said environment. Man has no real ability to grab the evolutionary "bull" by the horns and direct it's outcome. Evolution will take its own direction and come up with living things that can survive. Those living things may or may not have consciousness. I tend to think we are overly impressed with our consciousness. At least more impressed with it than evolution is. It's part of the ego centric apex belief noted in the article.Or so I surmise.
Quote from: Moralnihilist on July 21, 2014, 08:24:27 PMI don't know, prior to the new information age, people used to be in shape and knew how to take care of themselves. Now in the post information age, it seems that fat and stupid are a evolutionary advantage.
Quote from: stromboli on July 21, 2014, 05:39:56 PMGiven the free rein of intellect and science, our many-times-great-grand-children could well be immortal interplanetary beings capable of building worlds of their own; become the gods that humanity now so primitively worships.