Started by Mike Cl, August 14, 2021, 08:20:12 PM
Quote from: drunkenshoe on November 14, 2021, 02:05:22 AMWhat do you think fascism is? Here is a definition. "A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism."That's the open policy of the republican party. Word for word. Openly. Namely. They have planned and prepared a policy to divide people by race, religion, nation, culture in a country, where the fucking domestic intelligence -a white institution often accused of systematic racism no less- kept telling that white supremacy is the number one threat in the country for over a decade.
Quote from: Shiranu on November 14, 2021, 02:17:32 AMYeah, that's the definition I was drawn to; it describes the Democrats to an extent as well, just not as violent and not as nationalist, but with the same end-goals; a dictatorship between two roughly identical parties that both work hand-in-hand to make sure there can be no alternative political options, an extreme capitalist society, and both fight against any substantial socialist ideology. And while not always belligerent, the racism of the Democratic party is not a concealed secret - in states with Dem majorities the policies are just as ruthlessly segregationist (sometimes even more so) as they were in the past; they just now use sneakier economic and gerrymandering tactics to not explicitly be racist.
Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on November 12, 2021, 09:17:49 PMThe GOP has been less active in saying "The Fascists are coming! The Fascists are coming!"
Quote from: drunkenshoe on November 14, 2021, 08:41:20 AMIn my opinion, that's a very wrong way to look at this. We've been through that. That's how everything collapsed here. There is no bottom of this. It's like reading the last of the 90s-first few years of 2000s where I live. I can't believe the change that way down to today. Remember what you have said before? Paraphrasing: "Except a few basic things, they are actually the same". Those few things turns the world upside down. You learn that life is actually very simple in a very difficult way.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on November 16, 2021, 12:22:43 AMOK. First I wrote a long post, but I think there are few differences in both situations. I'm still thinking about it. E: we completely agree on the system. Actually, I think it's never worked. What happened, which looked as if it worked was the change in the saddle period. It's just better, that's all. Nothing different than monarchy. Same category.
Quote from: Mike Cl on August 14, 2021, 08:20:12 PMâ€œTrump Is No Hitler, Butâ€¦â€: â€˜The Meaning Of Hitlerâ€™ Directors On Parallels Between The FÃ¼hrer And 45.https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-no-hitler-meaning-hitler-222659350.html.So far, trump is not close to being defeated. If his nazi rhetoric isn't gaining traction, it is not losing it. As the movie keeps saying--trump is no hitler. But he does use many of hitler's more successful ploys. What really gets me is that 40 years ago I would have told you that this could not (not ever, ever, ever) happen here. Was I ever blind! Not only is it in the US, it is an explosion around the world! I simply cannot grasp why that is so. Talk about jumping out of the frying pan into the fire!!! But I am glad the movie is being seen.
Quote from: FreethinkingSceptic on December 19, 2021, 01:32:02 AMGodwin's Law. Didn't get much else out of it. The "ploys" in question, even if you want to liken them to that of a "totalitarian" regime are in now way exclusive to Hitler, fascism, or any "right-wing" variety of "totalitarianism".
Quote from: Mike Cl on December 19, 2021, 09:13:01 AMMaybe you need to change your name to Nonthinking Sceptic.
Quote from: FreethinkingSceptic on December 19, 2021, 01:07:55 PMNah, I think you need to change your name to Mike Hunt though.