Started by no-excuses, June 07, 2014, 01:09:22 AM
Quote from: GalacticBusDriver on June 07, 2014, 01:13:49 AMNo idea if it's right or wrong. Not available in my country.
Quote from: Hydra009 on June 07, 2014, 01:26:11 AMIf the times match up
Quote from: GalacticBusDriver on June 07, 2014, 01:34:55 AMSorry, the segment seems to be edited and makes it appear that the editor is either cherry picking or quote-mining so I still can't say if the entirety of what Dawkins says is right or wrong.I do personally believe that teaching a child, especially a young child, a religion that condemns people to a place like hell is child abuse.
Quote from: drunkenshoe on June 08, 2014, 04:56:28 PMYeah this is a good one no-excuses. I had exactly the same discussion long time ago with a few 'educated' muslims (I live in Turkiye) and I was told the same bullshit. "Quran doesn't says that." And it gets worse. Apart from the fact that people actually do not read their holly book, there are also different 'teachings' based on different 'prints' (seriously) -I don't call them translations, I don't care they are accepted as- with exactly two kinds of politically correct bullshit where I live. (Probably more) This is some sort of marketing I suppose. Because there are many people here raised being too exposed to Western culture and although they are muslims (praying, fastening) they are aware it is pretty much ridiculous to people and they are fed with the translation bullshit story (you probably know how often that is used for manipulation), but if you coincide a certain sub culture it changes. There is this, how it is impossible to translate quran perfectly as it is meant, because humans cannot really comprehend god's word? (I am sure you are familiar with that too?) It's fucking hillarious. I wish I knew about the scripture more though. I even got "Where did you see in Quran that it says it is actually against evolution? Backwards translations and application doesn't prove anything." (This really happened) Lol.