Trump Still Favored in the Polls

Started by SGOS, September 22, 2015, 08:31:36 AM

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AllPurposeAtheist

An interesting take by Frank Rich of NY Magazine about the Trump fiasco and the last paragraph may just be spot on. .
QuoteEven if this drama does not play out to the convention, the Trump campaign has already made a difference. Far from being a threat to democracy or a freak show unworthy of serious coverage, it matters because it’s taking a much-needed wrecking ball to some of what has made our sterile politics and dysfunctional government as bankrupt as Trump’s Atlantic City casinos. If that’s entertainment, so be it. If Hillary Clinton’s campaign or the Republican Party is reduced to rubble along the way, we can live with it. Trump will not make America great again, but there’s at least a chance that the chaos he sows will clear the way for those who can.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/09/frank-rich-in-praise-of-donald-trump.html
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aitm

Even I like Trump for his bullshit. He is not afraid, (or too stupid) or (very savy) ro touch the very heard of many american who are fucking tired of being jacked off. This is Teddy Bear shit here, he is running the Rooster , and that mother fucker may very well surprise us all.


No, I don't like him or want his as president, but I like that he is full in and not stroking your underwear.
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AllPurposeAtheist

The funny part is so many people who think of themselves as liberal and progressive also make the same mysoginystic jokes and flip off people routinely. There is nothing unique to republicans in that respect. The thing I do like about the campaign is that it's flipping off the entire prepackaged "political event" aspect of elections.
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aitm

Trump is as much a "republican" as I am, he doesn't give a fuck about a political party, he cannot win as a democrat, given his history and the way he makes his money, and the pubs field is like someone shooting a shotgun in a candy shop and the shit that flies out the window is the choices. He has a very good chance of getting the primary. Seriously, this guy against the bitch? I like his chances. Nobody likes hillary.
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AllPurposeAtheist

Yeah ..the rest have about as much appeal as ..well,  they have no appeal. Even shit sandwiches have more appeal with or without bread.
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stromboli

Based on what I've read and followed, my opinion of Trump is that he is about 6 parts ego 3 parts BS and (maybe) 1 part brain. Beyond that I have no respect for him.

Shiranu

I don't see any point in respecting someone just because they are an asshole, and that is the only reason anyone likes Trump (besides the rare few who think he is a savvy businessman).

The guy is a spoiled man-child who was never told no and thinks far too much of himself. The only benefit is he has money... and what good is that much money if you are still a terrible human being?
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Hydra009

Quote from: aitm on September 25, 2015, 09:36:22 PM
Even I like Trump for his bullshit. He is not afraid, (or too stupid) or (very savy) ro touch the very heard of many american who are fucking tired of being jacked off. This is Teddy Bear shit here, he is running the Rooster , and that mother fucker may very well surprise us all.


No, I don't like him or want his as president, but I like that he is full in and not stroking your underwear.
Sometimes, I ask myself if Trump would appeal to voters if he had ten bucks in his bank account instead of millions.  The answer that I arrive at is no.

josephpalazzo

Quote from: Hydra009 on September 26, 2015, 03:44:33 AM
Sometimes, I ask myself if Trump would appeal to voters if he had ten bucks in his bank account instead of millions.  The answer that I arrive at is no.

That's what puts Trump in a different category. All other candidates are tied to their donors: as long as the donors pour in money, they can keep up with their campaign. Of course if they can't increase their numbers in the next polls, the money will dry up, and the candidate has no choice but to drop out. Not so with Trump. He is not tied to any donors since he uses his own money. If he drops out, it will be on his own decision, when he realizes he is going to lose money without a chance of winning, but it will his decision, not someone else.

stromboli

Quote from: josephpalazzo on September 26, 2015, 06:14:26 AM
That's what puts Trump in a different category. All other candidates are tied to their donors: as long as the donors pour in money, they can keep up with their campaign. Of course if they can't increase their numbers in the next polls, the money will dry up, and the candidate has no choice but to drop out. Not so with Trump. He is not tied to any donors since he uses his own money. If he drops out, it will be on his own decision, when he realizes he is going to lose money without a chance of winning, but it will his decision, not someone else.

^this. The question to me is at what point the loss of money in a useless campaign trumps (sorry) his egotistical desire for being in the spotlight and trying to be a political force. He is ego driven to a point, and his decisions down the road will show when common sense overrides the ego. How many millions he is willing to expend to build his brand, offset by money wasted for a losing cause. He will go until it is obviously pointless to go further, but will garner as much press and selling his brand as he can.

josephpalazzo

Latest poll:

NBC/WSJ poll on GOP race: Trump 21 (+2 since July) Carson 20 (+10) Rubio 11 (+6) Fiorina 11 (+11) Bush 7 (-7) Kasich 6 (+3) Cruz 5% (-4)

It's getting tighter. I guess Carson scored a big one with his "No Muslim should be president". What will the Don do?

Baruch

OK, given the trending ... Carson/Trump 2016 ;-)  Is Carson more acceptable because he isn't a lawyer, not a career politician, had a decent education, is Black and Conservative?  I personally have no problem with American Muslims ... but would you think an acceptable candidate in the 1944 presidential election would have been a Japanese-American?  And given that he is in politics, is his religion more than skin deep?  Huckabee/Santorum/Cruz are maybe more than skin deep.
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Shiranu

QuoteI personally have no problem with American Muslims ... but...

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/I'm_not_prejudiced,_but...

To use your analogy, I fail to see where we are at war with Islam, or indeed how one even could be. Like saying, "War on Drugs", it makes absolutely no sense.
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Baruch

War on X ... American policy has made no sense for 70 years now ... haven't you noticed?  Being post-WW II ... I have no problem with Japanese Americans either ... Shinto or Buddhist.  I try not to invent imaginary enemies, since the real ones keep me busy ;-)
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hrdlr110

Quote from: Shiranu on September 26, 2015, 03:37:26 AM
I don't see any point in respecting someone just because they are an asshole, and that is the only reason anyone likes Trump (besides the rare few who think he is a savvy businessman).

The guy is a spoiled man-child who was never told no and thinks far too much of himself. The only benefit is he has money... and what good is that much money if you are still a terrible human being?

You can run your campaign on a slogan of not being beholden to the corporates. However, he may be considered a corporate himself, so as usual, he's a tad hypocritical. Him being president sort eliminates the middle man! (Lobbyists)
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