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Title: The Bibile on the History Channel
Post by: Alaric I on March 03, 2013, 06:05:46 PM
Who will be watching?  I don't have the opportunity to wtch it as it airs so I will have to download it later, just want to check out what it's about.  It has all my Christian friends stoked.
Title: Re: The Bibile on the History Channel
Post by: Valigarmander on March 03, 2013, 06:46:57 PM
No need. I already read the book, and it wasn't very good.
Title: Re: The Bibile on the History Channel
Post by: The Dude on March 03, 2013, 06:49:27 PM
Quote from: "Valigarmander"No need. I already read the book, and it wasn't very good.
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Post by: mnmelt on March 03, 2013, 06:54:30 PM
So long as its not on the science channel I could care less.. :rollin:
Title: Re: The Bibile on the History Channel
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on March 03, 2013, 06:58:32 PM
Personally I'd rather watch toilet paper blow in the very slight breeze in a mens room bathroom stall as I fart attempting to shit...much more enlightening.. :-k
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Post by: PopeyesPappy on March 03, 2013, 07:01:27 PM
I'll have the History Channel on the TV but will be working on a proposal for a contract mod so I won't be paying much attention. I do want to know when it goes off though because I want to watch The Vikings when it comes on at 9.
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Post by: sasuke on March 03, 2013, 07:06:50 PM
As Minimalist from the Archives put it:
QuoteI've given up on the History Channel....in much the same way as they have given up on History.
Title: Re: The Bibile on the History Channel
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on March 03, 2013, 07:13:26 PM
Does it come on before, during or after the riveting historical docudrama about noodling?
Title: Re: The Bibile on the History Channel
Post by: Alaric I on March 03, 2013, 07:35:35 PM
Quote from: "AllPurposeAtheist"Does it come on before, during or after the riveting historical docudrama about noodling?

No clue, but I am interested to see what they say on it. As a lot of christians are looking foward to it to help assert their beliefs, I want to see if it contradicts them in any way.  I can see the blogs now if it does. "The History channel totally got the facts wrong on that one."
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Post by: PopeyesPappy on March 03, 2013, 08:03:14 PM
Noah has a Scottish accent...
Title: Re: The Bibile on the History Channel
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on March 03, 2013, 08:08:06 PM
I wonder if the history channel will say it was Satan who made the sinkhole in Florida swallow that poor guy and GOD saved the rest of the state from the pit of hell..
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Post by: Thumpalumpacus on March 03, 2013, 08:28:36 PM
Their Bible programs are ahistorical bullshit.  For learning, I much prefer their UFO Files show.
Title: Re: The Bibile on the History Channel
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on March 03, 2013, 09:56:23 PM
I might as well tell you all I live with a bunch of dumbasses. They're all packed into a small TV area watching the BuyBull sponsored by ChristianFuckbuddies...errr christianmingle.com.. :roll:
Title: Re: The Bibile on the History Channel
Post by: Aroura33 on March 03, 2013, 09:56:37 PM
Considering is is pretty much written by and financed by Mark Burnett (JESUSFFREAK), I'm sure it will be a exactly what Christians want to see and hear, not anything controversial from the actual bible.  

And yeah, the History channel is just total BS now. "History"...hahafuckingha.
Title: Re: The Bibile on the History Channel
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on March 03, 2013, 10:14:24 PM
Quote from: "Aroura33"Considering is is pretty much written by and financed by Mark Burnett (JESUSFFREAK), I'm sure it will be a exactly what Christians want to see and hear, not anything controversial from the actual bible.  

And yeah, the History channel is just total BS now. "History"...hahafuckingha.
Oh nowwww... The entire Middle East was populated with nothing but white guys back then.. Don't be so cynical.
Title: Re: The Bibile on the History Channel
Post by: mykcob4 on March 03, 2013, 11:07:32 PM
Quote from: "Alaric I"Who will be watching?  I don't have the opportunity to wtch it as it airs so I will have to download it later, just want to check out what it's about.  It has all my Christian friends stoked.
And that is exactly what it is suppose to do....stoke the believers. Take any one of those folklore myths and apply good science and anthropology studies to it and they just don't add up. It is propagamda rolled into a form of entertainment and called of all things "HISTORY!"
It makes me sick that people take the best learning tool ever invented (the television) and put utter rubbish like 'The Bible' on it.
'The History Channel' should be forced to change it's moniker to the 'Lying Propaganda Channel', oh, right, that is reserved for FOX!
Title: Re: The Bibile on the History Channel
Post by: Aroura33 on March 03, 2013, 11:50:59 PM
Ok, I'm watching it while doing some chores, and so far it totally whitewashing the bad parts of course.  Lot didn't offer his 2 virgin daughters to the crowd of rapists.  And the angels totally did dual wielding Kuing Fu to those bad dudes in Sodom!!  then, Lots daughters of course do not sleep with Lot after they escape.

Very true to the bible and realistic so far /NOT.  :Hangman:

I'm sure all the Christians watching this will think this is totally accurate, since most of them don't seem to know about the crazy shit in there, or if they do they edit it out in their heads, just like this stupid show is editing it out.
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Post by: stromboli on March 04, 2013, 02:11:07 AM
The fact that it is showing on the history channel is repugnant. It is not history in any way and should not be construed as such.
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Post by: The Skeletal Atheist on March 04, 2013, 02:27:45 AM
The History Channel (as well as the Discovery Channel and other such channels), for the most part, is a fucking joke now.

That being said, I may watch this. My only reason is for the entertainment value though. History Channel programs focusing on religion have good entertainment value as long as you maintain suspension of disbelief. It's almost like watching a program on ancient Greek or Roman mythology.
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Post by: GurrenLagann on March 04, 2013, 02:56:32 AM
I haven't tried sitting through a whole History Channel program since I watched a few episodes of Ancient Aliens awhile back.... a whopping series of arguments from ignorance from a guy with the craziest hairstyle. xD

I can only imagine this to be at best silly. "And here we have proof that Noah's Ark COULD have held all of Earth's land species!!11"
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Post by: Zatoichi on March 04, 2013, 03:43:28 AM
(//https://tomverenna.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/giorgio_tsoukalos_aliens.png)

Giorgio Tsoukalos...

That douchebag is just on there trying to sell more copies of his stupid magazine... and apparently trolling for a hairspray spokes-model deal!
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Post by: ApostateLois on March 05, 2013, 12:17:38 PM
This just proves that the History Channel has NOTHING to do with history anymore. They used to do good shows involving actual historical events that had evidence to back them up. Now, more often than not, they have programs about aliens, ghosts, ESP,  biblical myths, and other crap that should be getting no air time at all, except on the comedy networks. Better yet, there should be a Mythology, Folklore, and Crankery Network just for bullshit like this, so that the History Channel won't have an excuse for showing it.

I'm looking at their TV schedule page now, and this is what is showing:

UFO Hunters. They have a whole series of these, including The NASA Files, Area 51 Revealed, and Alien Contact.

Ancient Aliens. Another series, with fascinating titles such as Aliens and Dinosaurs, The Mystery of Puma Punku, and Strange Abductions.

Monster Quest. Bigfoot, Chupacabra, the Loch Ness Monster, etc. More bullshit by, and for, people with no imagination.

Modern Marvels. This isn't history, it's current events; but it is at least interesting, with shows about tuna fishing, combat food technology, and America's "supersize culture." These are issues that have relevance to real human beings trying to live in the real world. That other shit I might watch for the lulz, but it doesn't belong on the History Channel.
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Post by: WitchSabrina on March 05, 2013, 12:52:16 PM
Quote from: "sasuke"As Minimalist from the Archives put it:
QuoteI've given up on the History Channel....in much the same way as they have given up on History.

here here !
Shouldn't the *HISTORY* channel be about....... I dunno........... history?
 :shock:  :shock:
Title: Re: The Bibile on the History Channel
Post by: WitchSabrina on March 05, 2013, 01:05:31 PM
Quote from: "Aroura33"Ok, I'm watching it while doing some chores, and so far it totally whitewashing the bad parts of course.  Lot didn't offer his 2 virgin daughters to the crowd of rapists.  And the angels totally did dual wielding Kuing Fu to those bad dudes in Sodom!!  then, Lots daughters of course do not sleep with Lot after they escape.

Very true to the bible and realistic so far /NOT.  :Hangman:

I'm sure all the Christians watching this will think this is totally accurate, since most of them don't seem to know about the crazy shit in there, or if they do they edit it out in their heads, just like this stupid show is editing it out.

There was an interview today on one of the morning-news stations........  something about how excited they were about adding all the special effects.   In the background (while making a fire in the fireplace/stove)  I began to laugh uncontrollably and my poor hubby said "What the fuck is wrong with you?"  to which  I answered "They're adding lots of special effects to the Bible story on the History channel....  Get it? Hollywood ADDED special effects??"   He just handed me my coffee, patted me on the head and laughed under his breath.

(//http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h321/SabrinaTheInkWitch/What-.gif)
Title: Re: The Bibile on the History Channel
Post by: WitchSabrina on March 05, 2013, 01:13:34 PM
looks much better IMHO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn8lrGYsbVc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn8lrGYsbVc)
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Post by: Farroc on March 05, 2013, 01:57:04 PM
As long as they don't fuck with PBS, I don't care.
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Post by: The Dude on March 05, 2013, 04:27:06 PM
I know a guy who works at HISTORY, and I've told him that a lot of people don't really see them as "History" anymore because their new shows aren't exactly history. But if you think about it, their main show is Pawn Stars. And that has a lot of history in it because of the items they bring in.

My buddy told me the one time they tried just going straight history for a while with the WWII tapes and the documentaries, their rival networks blasted them calling them the "Hitler Channel". So they're really doing the best they can. It's a ratings game.
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Post by: ApostateLois on March 05, 2013, 04:50:13 PM
Sorry, but shows about imaginary monsters, ESP, and UFOs are only there to cater to the stupidest people in their audience. That's not doing their best, that's taking the easiest way out.
Title: Re: The Bibile on the History Channel
Post by: BarkAtTheMoon on March 05, 2013, 04:55:48 PM
Quote from: "Aroura33"Considering is is pretty much written by and financed by Mark Burnett (JESUSFFREAK), I'm sure it will be a exactly what Christians want to see and hear, not anything controversial from the actual bible.  
I never knew Mark Burnett was a Jesus freak. It does explain why there's been at least one proselytizing douchebag on Survivor most seasons, though. A few of the seasons it's gotten so bad it's embarrassing.
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Post by: The Dude on March 05, 2013, 05:47:10 PM
Quote from: "ApostateLois"Sorry, but shows about imaginary monsters, ESP, and UFOs are only there to cater to the stupidest people in their audience. That's not doing their best, that's taking the easiest way out.

I see American Pickers, Pawn Stars, and that Fifty States show on way more than I do any UFO shows.
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Post by: ApostateLois on March 05, 2013, 06:14:18 PM
It seems like different kinds of shows come and go in popularity. When those pawn shows become boring, they'll intensify the ghost-hunting programming. When those become a drag once more, they'll be back to UFO marathons.
Title: Re: The Bibile on the History Channel
Post by: Sleeper on March 05, 2013, 06:24:20 PM
Think I'd rather watch this presentation about the Bible...

[youtube:muwz0rrr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaLaTMaKjdY[/youtube:muwz0rrr]
I'm sure Leo would agree.
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Post by: ApostateLois on March 05, 2013, 06:36:54 PM
Did Teller try to put a pterodactyl on that ark? :lol:
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Post by: Sleeper on March 05, 2013, 07:20:22 PM
A quarter cup less flour, no paprika?! Fuckin' heretics!
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Post by: Thumpalumpacus on March 06, 2013, 02:01:23 AM
Quote from: "The Dude"My buddy told me the one time they tried just going straight history for a while with the WWII tapes and the documentaries, their rival networks blasted them calling them the "Hitler Channel". So they're really doing the best they can. It's a ratings game.

I know what you're saying about the business aspect is dead-on true -- "The Hitler Channel" was a common gag in SoCal, not just among industry people either --but it's awful to think that the public doesn't care enough enough about non-modern non-European history to fill out a schedule.
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Post by: Plu on March 06, 2013, 02:20:30 AM
All tv caters to the common denominator. That's why you shouldn't be watching be any. There's plenty of interesting material out there, but it usually won't be on the television.
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Post by: Sleeper on March 06, 2013, 07:59:41 AM
Quote from: "Plu"All tv caters to the common denominator. That's why you shouldn't be watching be any. There's plenty of interesting material out there, but it usually won't be on the television.
X2
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Post by: zacherystaylor on March 06, 2013, 10:32:38 AM
Quote from: "Farroc"As long as they don't fuck with PBS, I don't care.

Start caring because PBS is fucked.
Title: Re: The Bibile on the History Channel
Post by: zacherystaylor on March 06, 2013, 10:41:17 AM
Whether it is history or any other show the commercial media is all crap now and it has been turned into a propaganda machine. For a while the History Channel  was doing some fairly good shows although they were never as reliable as other sources on any given subject. One of the series that tehy did that was fairly good was the one about lost civilizations based on archaeology but that has been gone for at least five or six years if not closer to ten.

the Ancient Aliens show was so full of misinformation like when they guy with the funny hair said he went into the pyramid and his lighter went out because there wasn't enough oxygen for it to work; and he kept on breathing because he didn't need oxygen.

They still didn't explain how they moved the ancient megaliths even if the info they did present was all crap though.
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Post by: Mister Agenda on March 06, 2013, 11:55:26 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-joel-h ... 03409.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-joel-hoffman/the-bible-isnt-history_b_2803409.html)

A bit about enlightened Christians not taking the parts of the Bible where you have to divide people's ages by 10 as historical.
Title: Re: The Bibile on the History Channel
Post by: SHIN KAIRI on March 16, 2013, 11:30:16 AM
Actually I have some good news. :-D

"Last Sunday, the first installment of History's five-part miniseries The Bible beat everything on television with a massive 13.1 million viewers, making it cable's most-watched entertainment telecast this year. " :-D

http://endtimeheadlines.wordpress.com/2 ... bible-set/ (http://endtimeheadlines.wordpress.com/2013/03/15/mark-burnett-says-weird-things-happened-on-the-bible-set/)
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Post by: Plu on March 16, 2013, 11:32:51 AM
Interesting. I hope someone out there is doing a bit of research to see how many people lose their faith because of this and how many find it because of this.

And then another one when the series is screened for biblical accuracy. Any news on how accurate the series is to the bible?
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Post by: SHIN KAIRI on March 16, 2013, 11:47:11 AM
Quote from: "Plu"Any news on how accurate the series is to the bible?
Haven't watched it yet, but even with only the trailers in mind I can already say that it is not very accurate. But hey, the world is not perfect. What matters is that the word goes out.
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Post by: Plu on March 16, 2013, 11:54:39 AM
Interesting things you believe in if "getting the word out" is more important than "getting the right word out".
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Post by: SHIN KAIRI on March 16, 2013, 12:06:43 PM
Quote from: "Plu"Interesting things you believe in if "getting the word out" is more important than "getting the right word out".
I don't, but like I said, you can't have the best of both worlds.
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Post by: Plu on March 16, 2013, 12:08:20 PM
Well apparently you do, if you consider getting the word out more important than getting the right word out.

After all, you did say "It's not very accurate, but at least the word is getting out."

The proper answer would be "It's not very accurate, so this is a terrible show because it's teaching people the wrong things"
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Post by: stromboli on March 16, 2013, 12:09:00 PM
Whether or not a work of fiction is accurate doesn't strike me as a conundrum.  :popcorn:
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Post by: SHIN KAIRI on March 16, 2013, 12:44:56 PM
Quote from: "Plu"Well apparently you do, if you consider getting the word out more important than getting the right word out.

After all, you did say "It's not very accurate, but at least the word is getting out."

The proper answer would be "It's not very accurate, so this is a terrible show because it's teaching people the wrong things"
The little things seem inaccurate, but the important things are good to go.
Title: Re: The Bibile on the History Channel
Post by: AllPurposeAtheist on March 16, 2013, 02:28:19 PM
From the channel that gives us such hard hitting history like noodling anf storage space wars.. of course it's all the honest injun truth.. after all..... lying about the bible is like illegal n shit..right?
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Post by: Sleeper on March 16, 2013, 03:36:36 PM
Quote from: "SHIN KAIRI"
Quote from: "Plu"Well apparently you do, if you consider getting the word out more important than getting the right word out.

After all, you did say "It's not very accurate, but at least the word is getting out."

The proper answer would be "It's not very accurate, so this is a terrible show because it's teaching people the wrong things"
The little things seem inaccurate, but the important things are good to go.
And what are the important things, pray tell?

Also... perused your blog... if you're serious about all that (and if you can't help but come here and open your mouth) why don't you bring up your topics here, one by one, and see if they really do stand up? Have you ever tried that?

But if you do, be prepared to edit your blog.
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Post by: Plu on March 16, 2013, 05:05:58 PM
QuoteBut if you do, be prepared to edit your blog.

Or to run away with your tail between your legs. That's the usualy response.
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Post by: Thumpalumpacus on March 16, 2013, 05:39:50 PM
Quote from: "SHIN KAIRI"
Quote from: "Plu"Well apparently you do, if you consider getting the word out more important than getting the right word out.

After all, you did say "It's not very accurate, but at least the word is getting out."

The proper answer would be "It's not very accurate, so this is a terrible show because it's teaching people the wrong things"
The little things seem inaccurate, but the important things are good to go.

The thought occurs to me that a Perfect Communicator could not be misunderstood.
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Post by: Colanth on March 16, 2013, 07:17:53 PM
Quote from: "SHIN KAIRI"
Quote from: "Plu"Well apparently you do, if you consider getting the word out more important than getting the right word out.

After all, you did say "It's not very accurate, but at least the word is getting out."

The proper answer would be "It's not very accurate, so this is a terrible show because it's teaching people the wrong things"
The little things seem inaccurate, but the important things are good to go.
The little thing are what we call "facts", and if the facts are wrong, the rest isn't very important.
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Post by: Valigarmander on March 18, 2013, 02:19:46 PM
Apparently, some people are saying Satan looks like the President.

(//http://wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com/blogs/unreasonablefaith/files/2013/03/article-2295082-18BFDB35000005DC-609_634x380.jpg)
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Post by: Jason78 on March 18, 2013, 02:53:17 PM
Quote from: "Thumpalumpacus"
Quote from: "SHIN KAIRI"
Quote from: "Plu"Well apparently you do, if you consider getting the word out more important than getting the right word out.

After all, you did say "It's not very accurate, but at least the word is getting out."

The proper answer would be "It's not very accurate, so this is a terrible show because it's teaching people the wrong things"
The little things seem inaccurate, but the important things are good to go.

The thought occurs to me that a Perfect Communicator could not be misunderstood.
I'm sure the apologists have an answer for that as well.
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Post by: stromboli on March 18, 2013, 05:24:40 PM
Quote from: "Valigarmander"Apparently, some people are saying Satan looks like the President.

[ Image (//http://wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com/blogs/unreasonablefaith/files/2013/03/article-2295082-18BFDB35000005DC-609_634x380.jpg) ]

That is way too close a resemblance to be a coincidence. Obvious effort was taken to make it that close.
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Post by: Fidel_Castronaut on March 18, 2013, 05:35:12 PM
Quote from: "Plu"
QuoteBut if you do, be prepared to edit your blog.

Or to run away with your tail between your legs. That's the usualy response.

Or put your fingers in your ears and continue to shit out processed tripe full in the rich nutrients of lies, ignorance, and denial.
Title: Re: The Bibile on the History Channel
Post by: St Giordano Bruno on March 18, 2013, 09:37:02 PM
I would rather they put it on the Comedy channel (//http://www.thecomedychannel.com.au/)
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Post by: ApostateLois on March 22, 2013, 02:28:15 PM
Shin's blog is filled with dozens of links that nobody will be bothered to click on because we have better uses of our time; and quotes from the Bible that mean nothing because they are the ramblings of religious nutters from thousands of years ago. Also, the title is banal.