I’m a convert into Catholicism from atheism . I found your site by chance as I was googling . I’m not sure why I’m here .I like atheists . in a way I owe them my wife, my happiness.
I converted to Christianity because of a wonderful Scottish lady I met at an atheist site not unlike this site of yours .things progressed quickly until we met in person and went out on dates and had sex. . I fell deeply in love with her . she was an atheist . To be with her she said I had to leave Islam and become an atheist. . At the time I was married to a wonderful Muslim lady .Before I had sex with my Scottish baby I was under the impression that the sort of Intimacy I had with my Muslim wife was great .That changed after I met my Scottish baby. .She opened my eyes to a whole new world of physical intimacy so that I no longer thought that my Muslim wife was what I wanted . I realized my Muslim wife was a gigantic mistake .. so I left her , left Islam and became an atheist..after that I lived with my Scottish wife happily for a couple years when things took a sudden unexpected turn. She came from the gym one day and said to me she is no longer an atheist and that she had converted to Catholic faith and that I had to convert too if I wanted to be with her. . I was flabbergasted , shocked out of my wits. I couldn’t think of any rational reason to explain her sudden and extreme change , unless perhaps it had to do with those unfortunate incidents in which she found me and her best girlfriend nude in bed .I explained to her that was because her girlfriend broke up with her boyfriend and needed moral and physical support . isn’t that what friends are for I asked ? To be there for each other when the chips are down. For some reason I don’t know she didn’t accept my explanation. . she totally and irrationally rejected the idea of me having sex with her best girlfriend as part of a heeling process her girlfriend needed in order to overcome the pain of separation . so faced with the choice of converting to catholic faith or see our marriage fall apart I choose the former.. .-what could I do ? I’m in love with my wife . when you love the woman you do anything to be with her. . we’ve been going to counseling which is proving to be very exciting. The consoler is sexy lady of Brazilian stock with an exotic nose and round sexy figure. I fantasize about us having a threesome . that would really be something . I made an oblique hint to my wife what she thought of being intimate with a woman. She let out a scream and made me do 25 hail Mary’s in a row.
I love being catholic . I like the hymns and I love going to confessions even though the priest won’t let me finish telling what I did in the war zones of Africa. I think being nice to people is better than killing them .I think for the most part that is true .
I like to read when I’ve time. I mostly read bio of serial killers. I read also play boy magazine, the Quran /haddith, bible/catholic theology .i write Arabic poetry. I like to watch pornography and finance news .sports, I like trekking ,hunting. Food, mainly milk and diary products . drinks, decent to good whiskey , beer , some wine . Music, I like piano, jazz , now catholic hymns . lately into Christian art. edu, college . profession, ex military , now , private contractor in battle zones in Africa. Recuperating presently. . -
go ahead welcome. no hugs and kisses please. 'm married man.
Welcome to AF.
Banging her best friend to heal that friend...
What, you have a magic cock or something?
If she rubs it, does she get to have three wishes?
Welcome to AF.
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 07, 2017, 09:14:43 AM
I’m a convert into Catholicism from atheism . I found your site by chance as I was googling . I’m not sure why I’m here .I like atheists . in a way I owe them my wife, my happiness.
I converted to Christianity because of a wonderful Scottish lady I met at an atheist site not unlike this site of yours .things progressed quickly until we met in person and went out on dates and had sex. . I fell deeply in love with her . she was an atheist . To be with her she said I had to leave Islam and become an atheist. . At the time I was married to a wonderful Muslim lady .Before I had sex with my Scottish baby I was under the impression that the sort of Intimacy I had with my Muslim wife was great .That changed after I met my Scottish baby. .She opened my eyes to a whole new world of physical intimacy so that I no longer thought that my Muslim wife was what I wanted . I realized my Muslim wife was a gigantic mistake .. so I left her , left Islam and became an atheist..after that I lived with my Scottish wife happily for a couple years when things took a sudden unexpected turn. She came from the gym one day and said to me she is no longer an atheist and that she had converted to Catholic faith and that I had to convert too if I wanted to be with her. . I was flabbergasted , shocked out of my wits. I couldn’t think of any rational reason to explain her sudden and extreme change , unless perhaps it had to do with those unfortunate incidents in which she found me and her best girlfriend nude in bed .I explained to her that was because her girlfriend broke up with her boyfriend and needed moral and physical support . isn’t that what friends are for I asked ? To be there for each other when the chips are down. For some reason I don’t know she didn’t accept my explanation. . she totally and irrationally rejected the idea of me having sex with her best girlfriend as part of a heeling process her girlfriend needed in order to overcome the pain of separation . so faced with the choice of converting to catholic faith or see our marriage fall apart I choose the former.. .-what could I do ? I’m in love with my wife . when you love the woman you do anything to be with her. . we’ve been going to counseling which is proving to be very exciting. The consoler is sexy lady of Brazilian stock with an exotic nose and round sexy figure. I fantasize about us having a threesome . that would really be something . I made an oblique hint to my wife what she thought of being intimate with a woman. She let out a scream and made me do 25 hail Mary’s in a row.
I love being catholic . I like the hymns and I love going to confessions even though the priest won’t let me finish telling what I did in the war zones of Africa. I think being nice to people is better than killing them .I think for the most part that is true .
I like to read when I’ve time. I mostly read bio of serial killers. I read also play boy magazine, the Quran /haddith, bible/catholic theology .i write Arabic poetry. I like to watch pornography and finance news .sports, I like trekking ,hunting. Food, mainly milk and diary products . drinks, decent to good whiskey , beer , some wine . Music, I like piano, jazz , now catholic hymns . lately into Christian art. edu, college . profession, ex military , now , private contractor in battle zones in Africa. Recuperating presently. . -
go ahead welcome. no hugs and kisses please. 'm married man.
You sound like the perfect christian. Welcome.
This can't be for real.
Quote from: SGOS on August 07, 2017, 12:04:22 PM
This can't be for real.
I kinda hope it is, just cause I want to believe there are people this interesting...
Quote from: Shiranu on August 07, 2017, 01:24:57 PM
I kinda hope it is, just cause I want to believe there are people this interesting...
And yet are site is being flooded by trolls every month.
Thank you deino anychus for warm welcome . and you sound like the perfect what?
@ Mr.Obvious …..No no , no magic dick . no dick was born to match the vagina..The vagina is roughly 30 inch long . it dwarves the male sexual organ in size and complexity . Measured on the clock she can climax over 50 times in an hour .when born her sexual organ kicks into action secreting ,testing itself ,then it shuts down , then it comes back alive when she reaches puberty . doused with estrogen from her brain to her toes natures bids her to breed breed breed to offset an inhospitable planet too cold , too hot, diseases rampant , food scarce etc. She is the primary creature on whose shoulder rests the survival of mankind .that’s the magic. .
@Arch…But it is real . When the woman likes you the female part in her lets you get away with anything .
@Uber…….. first impressions always range from wrong to right and vice versa and in between . .
@Draconic…are you saying I’m a troll? perhaps you need to deal with your fears some place else then.
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on August 07, 2017, 10:34:04 AM
Banging her best friend to heal that friend...
What, you have a magic cock or something?
If she rubs it, does she get to have three wishes?
Well, whatever comes out can't be put back in...
Quote from: Shiranu on August 07, 2017, 01:24:57 PM
I kinda hope it is, just cause I want to believe there are people this interesting...
That's very generous.
Welcome. Jews aren't anti-sex, either. Christians got it from sadhus and monks from India, living in Egypt. Catholics might communion with real bread and real wine, not the fake stuff.
Thank you guys for your welcome and input and in particular baruch -for injecting data into the “discussionâ€. I’ll look into Indian monks in Egypt. Your source?
Baruch reminds me of Yiddish rendering of Hebrew word that means blessed .the word is usually abbreviated to just the “b†letter in Aramaic . instead of saying Barukh you just attach the letter B to the beginning of a word to bless. For example if you want to say blessed is the name of the Lord you say Bname The Lord . that means blessed is the name of the lord
The basmallah ( the phrase .. in the name of Allah the most merciful and beneficent ) that precedes each quranic sura except for Al Touba sura was appropriated from Syriac patriarchs .the Patriarchs began their letters with it :
†Bismo Allah rahmanoe Raheemoâ€
In the Quran it reads : B’ism Allah Al Rahaman AL raheem .
So “in the name of the allah …†means blessed is the name of Allah because Bism means blessed is the name because the “B†means blessed .
Same with Christianity . when it says in the name of the father, son, holy spirit , that’s saying blessed is the name of the father , son , holy spirit .
Note also in Syriac which is really Aramaic the absence of the indefinite article ( The “Al†in Al Rahman and Al Raheem in Arabic form), nor the indicative case “ of†in the Christian rendering in English ..[of] the son , [of] the father .
Bar in Baruch means son in Aramaic . it can be taken to mean true or accurate representation , replica ,etc. so Aramaic “bar Nhas†translates better into True man .same with son of god which translates into True God .
And
Not so much anti sex … more like sex management via suppression so as to channel that immense natural sexual drive force towards production , raising living standards and , of course , the battle field. Nothing like sexually deprived soldier on the battle field .
.King Solomon had so many wives . Alpha male King Solomon focused on the pussy .so the egg fell off the wall. With the bible you have to read behind the lines .
you could look up cathedral death logs from 12th century onwards. Christian deprived of sex , marrying in their late 20s and having fewer kids . London is where progress began you could say.. It had to have started somewhere sometime. And it did start in London. Less sex, fewer kids meant more wealth inherited because it got divided among fewer heirs, the one or two kids , which meant surplus money to invest and /or start venture.
Just talking you know . don’t go ganging up on me now because I’m the only catholic. I turn atheist then and move in with you and eat all the food , drink all your booze ,etc.
Thank you again for warm welcome . you’re nice people. Are all atheists like you?
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 08, 2017, 05:37:06 AM
Thank you again for warm welcome . you’re nice people. Are all atheists like you?
Dear Ibid.,
Yes, we are all identical.
more. I want to know more. please tell me more, everything , pour your heart out . do not hold back. I support the tribe . its okay .I believe
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 08, 2017, 05:37:06 AM
Just talking you know . don’t go ganging up on me now because I’m the only catholic. I turn atheist then and move in with you and eat all the food , drink all your booze ,etc.
Oh don't worry. I don't think we'd gang up on you
for being a catholic.
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 08, 2017, 05:37:06 AM
Thank you guys for your welcome and input and in particular baruch -for injecting data into the “discussionâ€. I’ll look into Indian monks in Egypt. Your source?
Baruch reminds me of Yiddish rendering of Hebrew word that means blessed .the word is usually abbreviated to just the “b†letter in Aramaic . instead of saying Barukh you just attach the letter B to the beginning of a word to bless. For example if you want to say blessed is the name of the Lord you say Bname The Lord . that means blessed is the name of the lord
The basmallah ( the phrase .. in the name of Allah the most merciful and beneficent ) that precedes each quranic sura except for Al Touba sura was appropriated from Syriac patriarchs .the Patriarchs began their letters with it :
†Bismo Allah rahmanoe Raheemoâ€
In the Quran it reads : B’ism Allah Al Rahaman AL raheem .
So “in the name of the allah …†means blessed is the name of Allah because Bism means blessed is the name because the “B†means blessed .
Same with Christianity . when it says in the name of the father, son, holy spirit , that’s saying blessed is the name of the father , son , holy spirit .
Note also in Syriac which is really Aramaic the absence of the indefinite article ( The “Al†in Al Rahman and Al Raheem in Arabic form), nor the indicative case “ of†in the Christian rendering in English ..[of] the son , [of] the father .
Bar in Baruch means son in Aramaic . it can be taken to mean true or accurate representation , replica ,etc. so Aramaic “bar Nhas†translates better into True man .same with son of god which translates into True God .
And
Not so much anti sex … more like sex management via suppression so as to channel that immense natural sexual drive force towards production , raising living standards and , of course , the battle field. Nothing like sexually deprived soldier on the battle field .
.King Solomon had so many wives . Alpha male King Solomon focused on the pussy .so the egg fell off the wall. With the bible you have to read behind the lines .
you could look up cathedral death logs from 12th century onwards. Christian deprived of sex , marrying in their late 20s and having fewer kids . London is where progress began you could say.. It had to have started somewhere sometime. And it did start in London. Less sex, fewer kids meant more wealth inherited because it got divided among fewer heirs, the one or two kids , which meant surplus money to invest and /or start venture.
Just talking you know . don’t go ganging up on me now because I’m the only catholic. I turn atheist then and move in with you and eat all the food , drink all your booze ,etc.
Thank you again for warm welcome . you’re nice people. Are all atheists like you?
This forum is the best Atheist web site ... by far. But I am a Jewish heretic, allowed here for entertainment. Think of Yorick the dwarf jester ;-) Just don't make a Hamlet of yourself, it isn't kosher ;-))
Philo of Alexandria and the Therapeutae.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therapeutae
There were so many Hindu and Buddhist fakirs in the Near East, that they had their own neighborhood in Alexandria. Emperor of Ashoka sent Buddhist missionaries to Antioch and Alexandria 300 years before Paul missioned. A sadhu self immolated at the fires of the festival at Eleusis near Athens.
The Greeks made a major impact in India too. Without Alexander, there might not be stone statues, the original symbols of Buddhism, and Christianity, are non-anthropomorphic. A ship or anchor for Christians (See Noah ... who also appears in Hindu myth) ... a wheel of dharma or carved footprints for Buddhists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-Buddhism
Also study Bu-Jews ... which are popular today. With Jewish people traveling the whole Earth, even to China and India ... they saw it all. And Greeks in Afghanistan (thanks to Alexander). There cultures mixed but was carried back West. But you could have found any of this in Babylon ... you didn't have to go as far as Srinagar in Kashmir (where Prophet Isa is buried ... but the tomb shows it is Buddhist, not Jewish). Personally I don't believe in a historical Jesus, but I do think the Apostles were real people ... and they were Jewish heretics, like me.
I appreciate your interest in ancient languages. I teach Hebrew at synagogue on Monday nights. Your etymology is creative if a bit eccentric. Baruch is usually seen as Hebrew not Aramaic, and is rendered as a conjugation of "to bless" with connections to the noun meaning "bend the knee". But etymology is .. mostly speculative. Ever hear of the Philosophical Dictionary of Voltaire, of the Devil's Dictionary by Ambrose Bierce?
Avatars? I know who Ibn Khaldun was. Mine is Baruch Spinoza ... the uber Jewish heretic (other than Paul of course).
Quote from: Mr.Obvious on August 08, 2017, 06:52:26 AM
Oh don't worry. I don't think we'd gang up on you for being a catholic.
Right, we ganged up on Randy for being a repetitive authoritarian pedant. But when you do Catholic Mass every day ...
Quote from: SGOS on August 08, 2017, 05:45:25 AM
Dear Ibid.,
Yes, we are all identical.
Maybe not identical .. just a plethora of atman expressing the one Brahman.
thank you Baruch .
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 08, 2017, 07:42:08 AM
thank you Baruch .
Be an interesting character, and have a thick skin, and it can be fun here.
in short:
left islam for pussy
left atheism for pussy
it's pussy all the way with this guy. You go pussy lover!
I'd watch a Catholic more closely than an atheist if booze was involved. An atheist doesn't have to wonder if it's possible to get drunk on the Blood of Jesus.
Eat the body of Jesus and drink his blood. Who the fuck thought that up?
Quote from: SGOS on August 08, 2017, 07:13:07 PM
Eat the body of Jesus and drink his blood. Who the fuck thought that up?
Often wondered that. God created man, but fucked up and made him a natural born sinner. So, he decided that in order to fix that he'd kill his only son--and then make it so you would need to eat his body and drink his blood to be saved (umm...from what? Him). They make serial killer movies less gruesome than that. Think about that; every day the catholic church peddles human flesh and blood for it's consumers! Shouldn't they be arrested for that???
Quote from: SGOS on August 08, 2017, 07:13:07 PM
Eat the body of Jesus and drink his blood. Who the fuck thought that up?
This goes back to human cannibalism in New Guinea, and theological cannibalism in the Pyramid Texts circa 2300 BCE. Very very retro even 2000 years ago. Then the Church had a debate over this in the early Middle Ages ... and many Protestants reacting to such literalism, decided that it was symbolic (smart Protestants anyway). So why do people in New Guinea eat each other? It is to acquire the manna, their magic power. Think of eating a musician to acquire his musical talent. Jesus' manna is holiness ... so eat Jesus, get holy.
That didn't take long. Ibn Khaldun went from weird to nutso in just a few posts. Most take longer. I love his type. The dumb of the dumber to the dumbest of the dumbest...
Well, at least he probably wont waste much of our time.
I can't be the only one wondering what an "exotic nose" looks like?
Quote from: Jason78 on August 09, 2017, 01:26:01 PM
I can't be the only one wondering what an "exotic nose" looks like?
He said that? I didn't read the post in detail. But I apologize for missing that. LOL!
Quote from: aitm on August 08, 2017, 01:42:10 PM
in short:
left islam for pussy
left atheism for pussy
it's pussy all the way with this guy. You go pussy lover!
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What has sad got do with it ? The woman is sexually superior to me .the average male on the clock comes after around 8 thrusts . she comes over fifty times within the hour. Statistically speaking she has to copulate over 300 times to get pregnant . those are the facts . faced with such a mismatch I’ve to be crazy to bother to try. I say I come first . . Me comes first .focused on the pussy for me not her.
she chose me as a compromise. She goes through the list of what’s available out there and picks out the best she can get . Since what she picked is not the best she can get then I’m basically a compromise and so are the rest of other males. I’m sorry to tell you she picked you not because you’re number one . you’re a compromise.
Now compromise from compromise differ. I’m from an ancient breed . something of the last Mohican. Few pure bred like me left in tiny clusters in the desert of Sahara . we crossed over centuries ago. basically a carefully selected mix of special Semites and special type of negro inhabiting the lower parts of Ethiopia . Centuries ago, I’m what propelled Islam on the a battle field . I’m what was used to counter the Roman praetorian, my cousins. . we’re alike , roughly same mix. only I’m slightly bigger and taller, over 5 ft 8 , broad in the shoulder, long arms ,larger hands , thick wrist , short legs , long torso . naturally physically strong .bred for combat. firm footing, agile , fast as leopard and and and. before Islam the likes of me was trained by the Romans and fought for the Romans .after the Romans and Persian went at it and exhausted themselves living a power vacuum I was used to take over . a lean mean slaughtering machine .women want that . strong protector , disease resistant ,etc.
for a rough idea of part of my blood line , the negro part , look to Antra Ibn Shaddad . you know how each nation has super hero , like the Greek have Achilles, Europeans have Beowulf ,Romans got Hercules, Jews and Samson ? Antra is the super hero of the Arabs . even though he is pre Islam , Arab Muslims celebrate him constantly . they have TV reruns about him on Ramadan . He was jet black skin , off spring of Ethiopian Negro mother . he was also a poet . if you read his poetry you will notice his code of conduct to be honorable for he said he won’t not partake in booty or war spoils . He was knight and poet . legend has it a blind Arab bow man killed him by shooting him in his genitals . shot up his dick. So we’re talking sexual insecurities .
So we come to blood line. Vampire movie . do you like to watch vampire movies ? you sit for 1 ½ hour enthralled munching on popcorn and soda? You like that , don’t you? Love it . How nice . Isn’t that nice ? tell me then why make fun of Catholic eating flesh and drinking blood ? are you or are you not vampire ? is it in your nature ? well then go eat Jesus and stop eating people . that’s what it is saying .
For exotic nose , check with David Berkowitz. Its there . and now is the time . hey Baruch , cavebear , Munch , unbeliever and rest of my good atheist friends please be so kind as to kneel down . raise your hands up in supplication and repeat after me . we gonna pray guys . fantastic .this is good , very good .
‘….Honor thy father … blood for papa … drained just bones now…. papa needs blood…. No water please .. it hurts …..want tasty blood ….programmed for blood …honor thy father ..make love to the world… need blood to preserve my youth .. blood for papa , pass the cup..would he who travails in beauty sanction thirst ?..... return me to yahoo â€
End of prayer session. The collection basket is over there else no more praying for you . go make your own temple. .
I think Jesus got us bulls eye. Right? Yes , of course. Maker knows his product .you got to admit he does.
The bible is the master piece of mankind. Much older than they say it is . it echoes the human condition through the deep centuries .
There are very old ideas in the Bible. The expression/words aren't so old, mostly 2000 - 3000 years old. Sorry, you failed biology. My daughter's girl friend got pregnant the first time she was with a man.
Simply a series--one little crock of shit after another. This guy makes it seem that all theists are really just blow-hard, ego maniacs, who like to hear their own voice rambling on and on. And I guess they are.
@Baruch.. how do you mean old ideas? do you mean my penis and her pussy are old? That’s preposterous. And just when I thought we were getting along great . I demand you retract . Homicide rates say otherwise . They’re to 50 % total between couples . dick is dick , pussy is pussy since we reached this unsatisfactory evolutionary state which was when .? no idea.
so what if she got pregnant from the first get go ? cutting edge statistics say 320 roughly
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 10, 2017, 08:51:38 AM
@Baruch.. how do you mean old ideas? do you mean my penis and her pussy are old? That’s preposterous. And just when I thought we were getting along great . I demand you retract . Homicide rates say otherwise . They’re to 50 % total between couples . dick is dick , pussy is pussy since we reached this unsatisfactory evolutionary state which was when .? no idea.
so what if she got pregnant from the first get go ? cutting edge statistics say 320 roughly
This is the error of reasoning from statistics, to a specific case. The tails of the gaussian distribution aren't negligible, if you don't want to get pregnant, and do ... or you do want to get pregnant, and don't ...
I don't see that you and I are at cross purposes. When I know a fact, no statistic can deny it. And I certainly wasn't implying anything about you personally.
@barouch…I’m just trying to be nice. The real error is not realizing what you said supports what I said about sexual drive . harsh nature endowed her with that drive . True things have gotten better , but therein lies the problem , the drive remains . tech went ahead of nature .but we’re still the animals shaped by pre tech environment . old , yes , of course. That’s the point .
Now I want to ask your opinion about something . you have become like a father to me . in that other post I mentioned ramdan and you came back at me with Shabbat goy. Jews talking not nice shit about those who did the work for them on the Sabbath because they don’t work on the Sabbath. You compared that to Muslim having Christians do work for them on Ramadan because Muslims were fasting. And you followed it with that smile sign , two brackets’ and stuff. I’m thinking of starting a post to investigate if Sabbath is comparable to Ramadan.I know a whole lot of ramdan to dazzle you. Then I want to start a post detailing how Islam calls Jews descendents of pigs and monkeys and even rats and all that hate in the quran and haddith directed towards Jews even before there was an Israel . as my mentor what do you think? You know I value your opinion. .
It is called a loophole in religious law. Technically, one shouldn't have a different law for the stranger in our midst (gentile) as we do for ourselves. In deed, the Torah suggests that the work animal should be given shabbat as well. When we use a loophole to avoid a religious law, we are being hypocrites of course. The spirit of the custom is what is important, not even the custom. So having a gentile work on a shabbat, or having a gentile hold goods that are temporarily not appropriate to keep (Spring cleaning for Passover) then we have forgotten the reason behind the custom. IMHO .. the purpose of Ramadan is to enjoin sympathy and even solidarity with the poorest elements of the umma. If one has never skipped meals, then one doesn't know what it is like to be truly poor. Custom enjoins a whole month of not eating during daylight, so that the observance isn't trivial. There are short periodic fasts in Judaism, but nothing as serious as Ramadan. Similarly there are short fasts in Catholicism. But the Jesus of the Gospel of Thomas says ... don't fast at all.
"Jesus says to them: "When you fast, you will beget sin for yourselves; when you pray, you will be condemned; when you give alms, you will do evil to your souls!""
I think what this Jesus is saying is extreme. That if you don't give up all you have to the poor, you aren't serious. That if you don't live in constant presence of G-d, you aren't serious. I myself am in the middle of the horns of the same dilemma ... materialism vs spiritualism.
What loop hole got to do with it. Please elaborate . start with Jewish script. Teach me rules about Sabbath and show me the loop hole .
Barouch.,You’re doing wonderful.better than I had hoped .
That quote of Jesus , I heard that on Friday mosque sermons. In Islamic Dawa ( invite/ proselyte ) they use that quote and stuff from numbers and Deuteronomy ,etc .Mosque Imamas get training on that The stuff get drilled deep into their psyche so deep they repeat it unconsciously .
Big problem in terms of inter religion dialogue. The imama was not trained to dialogue . he was trained to engage in hit run artist tactics. They tell them make sure you say that shit in short slot of time , pile it up on their mental shelf .do it quick before the Christian has time to debunk you and move to the next item on the list .confuse subvert ,etc.
What’s up Hakham Barouch, been visiting your friendly neighborhood mosques , eh?
Can you teach me something better my mentor ? we did that Jesus bit in Dawa 101 class
So okay what you’re saying is basically this :
1- Jews are evil wicked people , who do “loop†shit and violate customs , and call foreigners Shabbat goy , a derogative term . Make poor foreigners work when they don’t even make donkeys work on the sabbath. By implication Jews thinks of us less than they think of donkeys and and and . something like that . right Hakham Barouch? .
2- Whereas .Muslims do charity , give alms on Ramadan , sympathetic people who kiss and hug lepers and Ebola infected victims, etc .
3- Conclusion Muslims are angels , jews are devils. Welcome to Hamas broadcasting from aqsa mosque
4- Christian , forget about it. Those gusy worship that extreme jesus .
So what do you propose , get Hitler oven started and resume burning jews??I mean jews don’t deserve to exist when you have such good Muslims .we should get rid of the bad jews and leave the good Muslims. Out with the bad in with the good
I don’t know about you Hakham Barouch , you beginning to sound more like Imam of Al Azhar .that reputable and widely influential institute of Islamic jihadist manufacturing.Would like me to show you some of its Ramadan sermons??presitigous AL Azhar hate inspiring material 24/7.? you know I'll do anything for you .you are like father to em. least I can do.
When are you going to do about al Rahaman bit ? not in the internet . not in Wikipedia ?
What I will do for Barouch , a man whom I have grown to respect and consider to be a father ( that’s how jihadist think about their Sheikh) is nice tidy piece to show that before Islam Ramadan was peaceful charitable thing and after Islam it changed to butchery , rape , murder en masse, war spoils ,etc
I’m going to make you very happy and pleased with me my sheikh. can I call you that ? please .
I'm always skeptical when someone claims to be an atheist who converts to religious belief. It's overwhelmingly a one-way street from belief to non-belief. It does happen occasionally, but usually when people say they were once an atheist, they were like Kirk Cameron: a non-practicing, passive theist, or a theist who is "angry at god", or some such.
Ibn Khaldun ... actually a complete dissection of contemporary Islamic society ... isn't something I have the time or interest in. I don't judge others, but I do judge their ideas/actions vs whether I should do the same as they do. All the ways of G-d are peace ... but this wasn't so with Caliph Umar etc. It wasn't true with Emperor Constantine. The mis-ethics of Jewish people? Of course there is such a thing. But ethics is at least our central concern. I myself am a heretic, and as a religious humanist, I know that all people fall short of the glory of G-d.
But I don't want to seem mocking, by using too much Islamic terminology for things you are concerned about, because while I appreciate Islam (in spite of its defects), I am not a Muslim. But in a way, you are correct to call me a sheik. But beware of following any one teacher too closely, less you imitate the vices along with the virtues. Prophet Muhammad is correct in the hadith, that the inner jihad is greater than the external jihad. Many atheists here know both, in their own Western way. I practice inner jihad every day. As a patriot, I also practice outer jihad every day. The only path to peace is integrity and justice ... and these are hard paths.
Quote from: Atheon on August 11, 2017, 05:37:45 AM
I'm always skeptical when someone claims to be an atheist who converts to religious belief. It's overwhelmingly a one-way street from belief to non-belief. It does happen occasionally, but usually when people say they were once an atheist, they were like Kirk Cameron: a non-practicing, passive theist, or a theist who is "angry at god", or some such.
This one seems unique. Even if he's not being honest, his story is different at the very least. Seems he just follows whatever religion gets him in bed with the woman he currently has his eyes on.
@brauch, what wrong with you? What dissect Muslim society ?? what are you talking about ? Ramadan and Jews getting called monkeys and pigs ???
You said Jews used loophole. Tell me . talk to me . show the loophole.
Did you read the torah ? I’m beginning to wonder. God does evil and commits slaughter . he said that . and Allah is maniac . what are you talking about ?
What are you now , prophet Brauch
Great . prophet Brauch .we're doomed
@Ann, not unique . look around . what do you see.
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 11, 2017, 02:09:28 PM
@brauch, what wrong with you? What dissect Muslim society ?? what are you talking about ? Ramadan and Jews getting called monkeys and pigs ???
You said Jews used loophole. Tell me . talk to me . show the loophole.
Did you read the torah ? I’m beginning to wonder. God does evil and commits slaughter . he said that . and Allah is maniac . what are you talking about ?
What are you now , prophet Brauch
Great . prophet Brauch .we're doomed
Men are born, only to die. What matters is what kind of man/woman you were in between. The loophole in every shariah is ... that it is observed by letter and not by spirit. And that scripture comes from man, imperfect. Yes, I do read scriptures. I am studying the Hebrew Psalms now. But I have studied the Quran and many others as well. I open my eyes and unplug ears, so that my eyes will not be blind, my ears will not be deaf. Are you sure that what is said about the scripture gods is correct? Are they not all paper tigers? But to encounter the true Life ... that is far far worse than any holy story. It is struggle, it is suffering, it is dying. When everywhere you look, you see Truth, then you are encountering the true Life. Cry or laugh, but choose wisely.
Can we get rid of Islamic porn please?
Or I'll start writing some myself to to make it REALLY annoying...
What the fuck did I just walk into?
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 08, 2017, 06:49:49 AM
more. I want to know more. please tell me more, everything , pour your heart out . do not hold back. I support the tribe . its okay .I believe
Well, I think you are a flaming idiot. But if you needed food and water, I would give it.
@Barouch you’re beyond amazing
You propose that the loophole was that Jews observed sharia by the spirit and not to the letter The rule being people observe shari by the spirit and not to the letter Al Nabi ( prophet)Barocuh rule
What letters ? what spirit ?state them ?
Lets test.
When Jews observed their sharia to the letter they refused to fight ON the Sabbath and laid there and got butchered. Other jews so the folly in that and fought back. so observing to letter versus to reason .
In Islamic Sharia law , the Muslim is obliged to recite the equivalent (back to you) of the Christian Lords’ prayer a minimum of 17 times a day and few more on Friday. Its called . Surat Al Fatiha . Surat Al Fatiha disses Jews and Christians, debases them, condemns them . everyday of the year with no exception the Muslim is obligated to recite that sura .Petition his god Allah while kneeling down , hands raised in supplication . brainwash indoctrinate, build the inner hate everyday , all days of his life .
So substituting propositions , your proposition …. Man is born only to die and in between … is Muslim is born only to die and in between recite , lets say the guy lives to 70 years . so we are talking 63 years times roughly 360 days times 17 hate recitals .
Seems your proposal to observe sharia to the letter returns ten of thousands of hate recital followed often times by mass murder . and that’s just one sura. Wait till I tell you about the rest . so many of them < I’m going to need a super computer to do the math.
Lets do the Math. Who many Muslims are there Barouch? 1.5 billion they say. Okay . lets say ten percent are devout and follow Sharia to the letter .-conservative estimate wouldn’t you agree.? So we got 150 million Muslims reciting hate for Jews and christens verses 17 times a day spread thoughout the day .
Test at the work place. Consider a Muslim working at factory ….. excuse me boss I would like extra breaks to go engage in hate prayer towards Jews.I’m going to need an area designated for my hate prayer recitals towards Jews and Christians and atheists and the few billion humans on the planet.
Lets do Christian god. Oh shit , he got the golden rule.
How about universal declaration- of human rights ? hey that is shari too . true not ordered by figment of the imagination sociopath, psychopath deity. But sharia all the same albeit the product of man human spirit and empathy and reason.
do sharia comparisons Barouc.... Looks like we need to . sharia from sharia differs. There in lies the rub.
@Barouch.. forget to say thanks .. great repsonses by you .. keep it up
I am becoming really tempted here to let Ibn the closed minded Islamist fool fight it out with Baruch, the weird sarcastic Christian jester. if they would just get in a forum cage match and leave the rest of us alone.
But they probably won't.
Quote from: Cavebear on August 12, 2017, 06:13:44 AM
I am becoming really tempted here to let Ibn the closed minded Islamist fool fight it out with Baruch, the weird sarcastic Christian jester. if they would just get in a forum cage match and leave the rest of us alone.
But they probably won't.
We aren't fighting. But I do need an interpreter with Ibn Khaldun. It takes a net thrown over his postings, to make sense of him.
@ cavebear , by all means., infact I will talk for both of us for me and Barouch. Barouch has no time or interest you see and he can't understand what I'm saying . so
@Barouch , just be yourself . you're doing great . your student is proud of you .
so what say you about surat Al Fatiha ? you said you respect Islam . turns out islam has its followers cussing you 17 times times a day . how do you feel about that ? turn the other cheek 17 times a day ? smack smack , revolving door . you the kavod man , the very Kadosh in person.
listen you were saying something about Umar the caliph . talk to me . what ?
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 12, 2017, 08:42:07 AM
@ cavebear , by all means., infact I will talk for both of us for me and Barouch. Barouch has no time or interest you see and he can't understand what I'm saying . so
@Barouch , just be yourself . you're doing great . your student is proud of you .
so what say you about surat Al Fatiha ? you said you respect Islam . turns out islam has its followers cussing you 17 times times a day . how do you feel about that ? turn the other cheek 17 times a day ? smack smack , revolving door . you the kavod man , the very Kadosh in person.
listen you were saying something about Umar the caliph . talk to me . what ?
I am not at all surprised that you and Baruch get along wonderfully. You are both religious fanatics trying to convince us innocent atheists to agree with your silly superstitions as best you can.
A fool's errand, but you must try I suppose... You are very welcome to each other.
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 12, 2017, 05:58:33 AM
@Barouch.. forget to say thanks .. great repsonses by you .. keep it up
I set up a string, under Islam, just for you ;-) But the regulars can't keep their grubby paws off of it.
Yes, like in Revelations, the Jesus there has a tongue like a sword, swishing back and forth ...
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 12, 2017, 08:42:07 AM
@ cavebear , by all means., infact I will talk for both of us for me and Barouch. Barouch has no time or interest you see and he can't understand what I'm saying . so
@Barouch , just be yourself . you're doing great . your student is proud of you .
so what say you about surat Al Fatiha ? you said you respect Islam . turns out islam has its followers cussing you 17 times times a day . how do you feel about that ? turn the other cheek 17 times a day ? smack smack , revolving door . you the kavod man , the very Kadosh in person.
listen you were saying something about Umar the caliph . talk to me . what ?
I think I will revise what I said. I have had more time tonight to do a little research.
First, you can hardly say Baruch has no time. In fact, he mostly clogs up the threads to increase his post count and make bizarre and strange references to nothing in particular. If you consider him a friend, you are welcome to him.
And if Baruch can't understand what you are saying, with his talent for making no sense at all himself, you are probably beyond all hope.
I looked at "surat Al Fatiha" on Wikipedia just now. It is mostly we love God and diminishing humans as crap. If that's what you want, fine. *I* have more respect for myself than THAT!
I respect Islam the same way I respect Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Mithraism and Odinism, etc. Not much. All silly useless superstitions.
I don't have to "turn the other cheek". No one is slapping mine.
Kadosh is a sick sexist fantasy.
Umar who? OK, yeah I looked him up. So you are a follower of the political post-Mohammed leaders rather than the bloodlines. Whoop-de-doo! I don't care about either. You are all crazies to me.
Quote from: Cavebear on August 12, 2017, 04:22:59 AM
Can we get rid of Islamic porn please?
Or I'll start writing some myself to to make it REALLY annoying...
I think Islamic porn is
any woman showing
any skin at all. Those Muslim men seem to be a bunch of fucking pigs that can't control their own appetites and lusts, so they force their women to cover every bit of themselves, or the men will go apeshit and jump them for the sex. Or just stone them to death.
sit . relax. not going to yell at you. I’m not going to teach you about surat Alfatiha or Umar,nor the Hijab. Not now at any rate. I’m busy . I don’t know., maybe if you get on your knees and do like my dog . here doggie here is treat, jump , stand on your hind legs, go bite my wife, that’s a good boy. Here .
@Cavebear. Thanks for wonderful response . and several sentences too. wow . take it easy on your brain. start a fire or some shit . hurt yourself like that
If this is an attempt by you to join our blessed circle of spiritualists , the answer is no. we don’t accept atheists and even if you become spiritual we still wouldn’t. even if Barouch says its okay , I'm the boss. NO . go away
look , I'm a believer. I believe you’re telling the truth when you said you did “some research†and that you believe what you did was research and I believe you when you say that you looked up Surat Al fatiha on Wikipedia and by doing so you believe you looked at surat Al fatiha . I also believe the stuff you posted as result of your belief that you did research is what you understood. What I’m saying I believe you not because I do but because I don’t think it would matter whether you did or not. You would have returned the same responses .
I also believe you when you say you’re of the opinion that Kadosh is sexist fantasy. not because you said it. I don’t care how you came by that understanding or why you said it or whatever . its of no value to me . My issue was how representative are you when you says “usâ€.
Now concerning Barouch , I think you’re way out of his league .waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.
now..here...throwing hand grenade ...go fetch.... thats a boy
Quote from: Cavebear on August 12, 2017, 06:13:44 AM
I am becoming really tempted here to let Ibn the closed minded Islamist fool fight it out with Baruch, the weird sarcastic Christian jester. if they would just get in a forum cage match and leave the rest of us alone.
https://youtu.be/7v06xTJaR7s
Welcome to our little band of heathens.
Quote from: Shiranu on August 12, 2017, 04:58:59 AM
What the fuck did I just walk into?
A sex thread with an opening post from a pervert that doesn't know how to respect people.
Quote from: Hijiri Byakuren on August 15, 2017, 10:38:16 AM
Welcome to our little band of heathens.
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Quote from: Jason78 on August 15, 2017, 03:43:46 PM
A sex thread with an opening post from a pervert that doesn't know how to respect people.
Wait. I think you got this thread confused with Ibn Khaldun's.
EDIT: No. Never mind. I'm the one who's confused.
See, there's the difference between theists and atheists right there - theists can never admit when they're wrong about anything. They have to do their verbal gymnastics to keep from being wrong.
Quote from: Unbeliever on August 15, 2017, 04:10:48 PM
See, there's the difference between theists and atheists right there - theists can never admit when they're wrong about anything. They have to do their verbal gymnastics to keep from being wrong.
But as a result our tongues are as lithe and toned as Baryshnikov ;-)
Quote from: Unbeliever on August 15, 2017, 04:10:48 PM
See, there's the difference between theists and atheists right there - theists can never admit when they're wrong about anything. They have to do their verbal gymnastics to keep from being wrong.
I would consider the gymnastics, first and foremost, mental, but I still understand the overall message you attempted to convey.
Quote from: Baruch on August 15, 2017, 06:17:19 PM
But as a result our tongues are as lithe and toned as Baryshnikov ;-)
That must be great for oral sex...if it results in theists being cunning linguists.
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 15, 2017, 04:06:54 AM
Now concerning Barouch , I think you’re way out of his league .waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.
That's OK, we think Baruch is way out of his league too. But so are you. You are both similar. Nutso crazy theists.
Quote from: Cavebear on August 17, 2017, 06:11:52 AM
That's OK, we think Baruch is way out of his league too. But so are you. You are both similar. Nutso crazy theists.
Quoted ... "You can't handle the truth!", "Fur balls is what fur balls does." "Atheist forums is like a box of chocolates, you never know what a response you will get."
@Hijri. Thank you for welcome and let me say had it been the other way around I would have done the same for you
Theeeee band of heathens . kah kah kah . and one with PHD. Where am I gonna go , where am I gonna hide.?
Frankly being a Catholic I’ve been made to feel I’m the one who is the heathen here.
One called me a pervert in addition, . . never mind , must be Victorian atheist .
that’s alright we catholic are not no Johnny come lately . they called us atheists two thousand years ago and fed us to the lions. We used to it. I likw to go to the zoo and get fed to the lions . hey you know zoo . what zoo? I’m looking all over I don’t see no zoo. Looking left right over my shoulder don’t see no zoo. Where is the zoo???? That is the question
Sometimes I feel so oppressed I just want to leave and say good bye to my friends, unbeliever, cavebear , and barouch and all of the rest of the good cyber spaced out cadets then I remember what Kim Kardashian said and I change my mind. no I must stay .
okay bye for now. see ya . see ya , don't wanna be ya you sit shit sit shit sit shit shit sit shit shit sit .
love you guys . really . great people. . just put you in the room with me and throw the key away .
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 18, 2017, 03:50:13 AM
love you guys . really . great people. . just put you in the room with me and throw the key away .
That would be the padded room.................
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 18, 2017, 03:50:13 AMSometimes I feel so oppressed
You and every other Christian, bud.
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 18, 2017, 03:50:13 AM
@Hijri. Thank you for welcome and let me say had it been the other way around I would have done the same for you
Theeeee band of heathens . kah kah kah . and one with PHD. Where am I gonna go , where am I gonna hide.?
Frankly being a Catholic I’ve been made to feel I’m the one who is the heathen here.
One called me a pervert in addition, . . never mind , must be Victorian atheist .
that’s alright we catholic are not no Johnny come lately . they called us atheists two thousand years ago and fed us to the lions. We used to it. I likw to go to the zoo and get fed to the lions . hey you know zoo . what zoo? I’m looking all over I don’t see no zoo. Looking left right over my shoulder don’t see no zoo. Where is the zoo???? That is the question
Sometimes I feel so oppressed I just want to leave and say good bye to my friends, unbeliever, cavebear , and barouch and all of the rest of the good cyber spaced out cadets then I remember what Kim Kardashian said and I change my mind. no I must stay .
okay bye for now. see ya . see ya , don't wanna be ya you sit shit sit shit sit shit shit sit shit shit sit .
love you guys . really . great people. . just put you in the room with me and throw the key away .
Now you are a catholic? Do you have many other personalities in you? But if you are leaving, I will not mourn overmuch.
Baruch , MY greatest failure on this site I got those 7 likes . that means its not an anomally.I’ve failed miserably .
The rich and powerful don’t do anything . they’re the least powerful and most vulnerable. Wealth and power are burden upon the fate of the person who posses it .in politics it’s the 5 % to 20% on whose shoulder they stand . that’s the power. If you’re completely irreconcilable with that percentage you have to take them out and kill them all, like the Pol Pot regime did .
In an interview Saddam Hussein was asked a bunch of questions. His answers left no doubt the man knew nothing about what is going on . The oblivious interviewer commenting later said that its an indication of how isolated Saddam was . but Saddam knew what he was . he said it . he said he is symbol of the country. That was why he was there . not to rule or know .
Even if they give you free pass to know which they won’t , there is no way to know . its too complex to know . Not body knows . there is a human element in it .
Okay it was the jungle troop I was talking about .I was talking about you. when it rains or a predator appears the monkeys become very agitated . they scream wildly and move rapidly about going eee eak eek ho ho ho. Likewise throw a bunch of bananas in the midst of chimpanzee group and watch the chaos that ensues . Man is an animal. Fear rules it . look at the post in that terms .
The rain. Make rain and the animal behaves and take notes. . what is the rain. Go to the aiport and today you stand in line for good time. You get searched and touched and violated . the message hitting the back of your mind is what , “ Terrorism? Okay , go on. Don’t stop . the actual message is Islam islam Islam . fear has been instilled
That’s accomplished lets look at how it works in a closed system. . I posted verses from the quran that are broadcasted full blast via mosques loud speakers regularly . The response returned by animal in panic mode aitm was its bias bias bias . I scored bulls eye there . the clincher that made up someways for that 7 likes.
Mike is going on and on about fiction fiction fiction. God is a fiction Mike says . Yet when I asked Mike what is this god he talked about he failed to answer . the fiction entrenched in Mikes mind that he uses fend off fiction.
There is nothing fictional about Islam . people said that people said to people that said to people that said to them . nothing fictional about that . But why they insist on focusing on what was said rather than why it was said and the purpose it was said. Its the rain . the monkey troop came and went eeeek eee eak ho ho ho .
The others were like no no I’m not going no no . I’m not gonna read that . so sing along Barouch..come mister tally man tally me bananas
that Egyptian accent is hard to shed .the post I liked was that on booze. Hey if you ever go to Egypt make sure you stock up well at the airports free tax shot .The stuff they have in the city is not the real shit. the selection at the airport is limited but will do just fine. Stock on 4 or 5 crates of Becks or Heineken . Johnny walker black label comes in packs of threes -750 mil. Get some of that and some white label, black& white . Chaves regal if you have sweet tooth . and don’t forget the ladies..Bacardi and cognac and dry gin . prices are basement bargain shit.
you might want to try the local grain beer . that’s in the country side . its both food and booze , only 5 % booze. Grain damped and allowed to sprout 3 days only and ferment 3 days only .so plenty carbohydrates . it’s a meal, an ancient one , and jacks you up on good bacteria count in your intestine . the yeast used is the woman’s saliva, you see. She goes spit spit spit on the liquid. a healing reaching out feminine human touch. Further deep in the country side they serve it in large dried sort of pumpkin bowl . you grab the bowl with both hands and you gulp ferociously like chimp by the water hole and stuff spilling on your chest till you finish the bowl . then you go , “ give us more womanâ€. Say us don’t ever say me . so if no one is around you could always say …come woman, come closer , closer , closer still . Yes yes this is good very good .grab her .i l love you baby. I can’t live without you. You are everything to me. I love you I love you . get down on your knees and say it .Women like that shit .they give you some for it. Only issue they want exclusive rights afterwards. Sort of unreasonable demand that made the man sing …… why do men go crazy when a woman wears a tight dress? Must be the same ole thing that makes pitbull hug a hound .
thanks for your co operation and bye bye . take care watch out now… Ibn Khaldun . top of the heap , cream of the crop
amke em say eek eak eeek . i love that shit . entertaining . don't you agree. hey very popular here on other sites . they watched and they applauded
Uh huh ... I gave you most of those likes. I had my reasons, and I won't take them back.
Former Muslims should stay away from the intoxicants ... you can't handle drunken reality!
Hasta la vista, Ibn baby ;-)
Quote from: Ibn Khaldun on August 24, 2017, 06:34:53 AM
failed miserably .
Mike is going on and on about fiction fiction fiction. God is a fiction Mike says . Yet when I asked Mike what is this god he talked about he failed to answer . the fiction entrenched in Mikes mind that he uses fend off fiction.
There is nothing fictional about Islam . people said that people said to people that said to people that said to them . nothing fictional about that . But why they insist on focusing on what was said rather than why it was said and the purpose it was said. Its the rain . the monkey troop came and went eeeek eee eak ho ho ho .
....failed miserably. Fist thing you written that is true.
I've said in a couple of occasions that the god of Islam is Allah--and allah is a fiction. The quran is a work of fiction. ALL religions are based upon fictions. You said "the monkey troop came and went eeeek eee eak ho ho ho .", and you are correct--but what popped out was Islam, Christianity, or any other organized religion you want to name. Fictions all, designed to control people--and not just control their actions, but their thoughts, with the aim of becoming powerful and wealthy. And it has worked for the leaders of all religions, for belief foster blindness and servitude, and those leaders have become wealthy beyond compare. Science, on the other hand, makes no claims that cannot be tested; and tested they must in order to be labeled factual. And those claims can be retested at any time by anybody who cares to do that. Religion does not require testing, only belief and faith. The blinder the person becomes, the more valued they are told they are. Fiction rules and runs your life. That's fine. Just leave me out of it.
And if you really are leaving--good luck and don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!